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Big Apple Terror? Sources: Al Qaeda Plotting to Attack New York City Corporations
ABCNews in Washington DC ^ | 7/31/04 | ABCNews in Washington DC

Posted on 07/31/2004 3:45:34 PM PDT by tmp02

Edited on 07/31/2004 4:31:44 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

 
Big Apple Terror?
Sources: Al Qaeda Plotting to Attack New York City Corporations
ABCNEWS.com

N E W  Y O R K, July 31, 2004? ABC News has learned that federal and New York City officials have received credible intelligence that al Qaeda has been plotting to carry out suicide attacks on corporations based in the city.

Sources at several law enforcement agencies tell ABC News that an "overseas source" has provided the information about the threat to New York and that it is more significant than the usual "chatter" intercepted from likely terrorists that has prompted warnings in the past.

Officials from dozens of local and federal agencies met into the night Friday and again this morning.

"Intelligence reporting indicates that al Qaeda continues to target for attack commercial and financial institutions, as well as international organizations, inside the United States," the New York City Police Department said in a statement released today on the "ongoing al Qaeda threat."

"The NYPD recommends that corporate and institutional security directors review their protection of HVAC systems, parking installations, and security in general," the statement added. "The alert level for New York City remains unchanged at 'orange' or 'high.'"

Border Worries

Intelligence sources say al Qaeda plans to move non-Arab terrorists across the border with Mexico.

Authorities already have in custody a woman of Pakistani-origin arrested after crossing into Texas. She carried a South African passport with several of the pages torn out, $7,000 in cash and an airplane ticket to New York.

New York is already on heightened alert for the Republican National Convention, which meets at Madison Square Garden in a month and will bring scores of high government officials to town.

The sources tell ABC News that Wall Street firms may be among the targeted U.S. corporations based in New York City. Which corporations or how many may be targeted has not been revealed.

Suicide Truck Bombings

Particularly disturbing to authorities were the intelligence reports that the attack may involve one or more suicide truck bombings, a tactic never seen in the United States, but one widely used by terrorists elsewhere.

"I think they want to try and shake our psyche again," says Jerry Hauer, an ABC News consultant and former director of New York City's Office of Emergency Management. "And I think the easy types of attacks right now are car bombs, truck bombs."

Law enforcement officials acknowledge such bombs are extremely difficult to prevent.

As to the timing of any planned attack, sources say it could take place between now and Election Day in November.

As the government tries to verify the reports of the threat, there are no plans to raise the national threat level, a senior Bush administration official tells ABC News.

ABCNEWS' Pierre Thomas and Bob Jamieson contributed to this report.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: badengrish; jihadinamerica; made; majorcorportations; michaelmoore; muslims; nyc; suicidebomber; targets
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To: concerned about politics

I guess we aren't in that category.

F*** Allah. Let the bombs begin to drop.


51 posted on 07/31/2004 4:13:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: DannyTN

I think they meant the SUICIDE part....

those truck bombs were "set it and forget it"


52 posted on 07/31/2004 4:13:47 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: bitt
al Qaeda plans to move non-Arab terrorists across the border with Mexico

Vincente won't like that unless he gets a hefty pay off.

53 posted on 07/31/2004 4:13:59 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: maquiladora
suicide truck bombings

The only different between a suicide truck bombing and a truck bombing is one dead Islamist.

54 posted on 07/31/2004 4:14:20 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BurbankKarl
you know, last night I was hanging out and a couple guys that are retired said they would dump Bush if there were another attack before the election...

Did you remind them the alternative would be candy ass John Kerry?

55 posted on 07/31/2004 4:15:39 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Maigrey
Methinks there should be a suspension of the silly gun laws in NYC to get the population involved in their own safety.

Don't get your hopes up on that one.

"There's too many guns on the street. And people use guns. Guns have one purpose, it is to kill people. There is no reason to have a gun." - Mayor Bloomberg, all of three weeks ago

56 posted on 07/31/2004 4:15:47 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ˇ°ml maximizeˇ± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Loaded, armed, and ever-so-ready for martyr production of biblical proportions!

Filthy gutter cult of murder and mayhem.

Good riddance.

57 posted on 07/31/2004 4:16:44 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: lavrenti

FYI...


58 posted on 07/31/2004 4:16:50 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Which FReeper likes to threaten to beat up women?)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

With all due respect, it is quite easy to overpower foot patrols and squad car patrols. The terrorists have been improving upon this type of assault over the years. Look at the strike in SA (Kobar) only a few weeks ago. Pack a few trucks with jihadis and explosives and they can barrel right through that level of security. You can't defend against a military style assault with "police power". We need road blocks, 50 caliber machine guns, and anti-tank armaments to withstand that kind of assault.


60 posted on 07/31/2004 4:19:35 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Havoc be upon them!)
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To: MarineDad

61 posted on 07/31/2004 4:19:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: tmp02

How can a suicide blow up the entire stock exchange?


62 posted on 07/31/2004 4:20:32 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: concerned about politics
I reminded them about Kerry's ammunition ban....he was just expressing his feelings. These guys are living off their months checks now....they complain about everything (like those old muppets in the balcony)

It's all crap now!

63 posted on 07/31/2004 4:20:57 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

LOL! I love those two old dudes!


64 posted on 07/31/2004 4:22:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: upchuck
in the OKC case it was not a suicide bombing as there was no one in the truck when it went off.

What about the extra leg?

65 posted on 07/31/2004 4:22:40 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I don't what kind of machine guns the FRB police carry, but they look impressive.

And there are barricades by the NYSE and some near the FRB.

I've lived in this neighborhood for more than a few years, and I can now tell when the alert level is up, just by watching the FRB cops.


66 posted on 07/31/2004 4:22:43 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Which FReeper likes to threaten to beat up women?)
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To: vishnu6

People can dig.

Remember the Fox News Pulse report from I think last year that talked about a tunnel leading from Mexico to a town across the border?


67 posted on 07/31/2004 4:23:58 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: rbg81
Imagine the backlash against Arabs & Muslims in this country if suicide bombing is tried here, even on a small scale! They will either leave or be lynched.

That depends on the magnitude of the attack(s) and government spin. IMO, it will take a LOT of small scale attacks or one massive (50,000+ dead) to wake enough sheeple from their complacent slumber. Come to think of it, it might indeed take 100,000+ dead.

68 posted on 07/31/2004 4:27:44 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Havoc be upon them!)
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To: BurbankKarl

You can't reason with them. My mother won't vote for GB because, GBS did something to stop my step dad from getting a new set of false teeth thru VA?????!!!! Go figure. I couldn't get her to listen but she said she didn't like Kerry either "something funny about him". She's a flower child who travels all over the country and said she would vote for Nader if I wanted her to . She's in TX though so safe. I just hope she's not registered in other states though too:') If someone offered her a pack of smokes (for the step dad) to register.....


69 posted on 07/31/2004 4:30:57 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Dont Mention the War
"There's too many guns on the street. And people use guns. Guns have one purpose, it is to kill people. There is no reason to have a gun." - Mayor Bloomberg, all of three weeks ago

Except for self defense. Bloomberg might as well wear a red star on his sleeve.

70 posted on 07/31/2004 4:31:39 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Havoc be upon them!)
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To: bitt
Intelligence sources say al Qaeda plans to move non-Arab terrorists across the border with Mexico.

Not new news for us here in the SW. Just this past week NM received its own terror warning. Go to the FR NM topics page and read several articles on this, especially the Tombstone Tumbleweed. The official Border Patrol line is silence, but some agents are talking anonymously. They have captured some ME types but others have gotten away.

Of course, any attack validates Bush's axis of evil strategy -- attack them there before they attack us (again). The only thing I can fault Bush on is the lack of border security, both with Mexico and with ME illegals overstaying visas, no central immigration list, etc. The latter may be coming but probably not soon enough. The former is not in the cards as the admin is pandering to the Latin vote.

71 posted on 07/31/2004 4:32:09 PM PDT by CedarDave (Pundit on Kerry: "Intelligence but not wisdom. Opinions but not convictions. Rhythm but not soul.")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I think NYPD has a better ops plan than say LA for this sort of stuff.

But still, with suicidal jihadis rollling into Manhattan South with truck bombs and AK74s....it wont be pretty

72 posted on 07/31/2004 4:37:09 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: tmp02
As that wonderful Peter Boyle would say: Holly Crap!


73 posted on 07/31/2004 4:37:49 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Rome2000

Yeah, why wouldn't this just warm the heart of Michael Moore and his pinhead followers?


74 posted on 07/31/2004 4:42:46 PM PDT by boop
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I'd like to see these guys providing security:


75 posted on 07/31/2004 4:45:44 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Havoc be upon them!)
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To: maquiladora

It just means that the powers that be are taking this very seriously and brainstorming on how to prevent these attacks.


76 posted on 07/31/2004 4:49:21 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: NYC GOP Chick

But can't you still drive by these places? Suicide bombers in cars/trucks.


77 posted on 07/31/2004 4:50:17 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: MizSterious

Then why did Kerry use the war hero appeal at the convention? It seems that he suddenly is trying to carve out a Commander in Chief image of tough guy. Sure, girlie man with pink tie, sure.


78 posted on 07/31/2004 4:52:50 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: tmp02
This image has been making the rounds on the end of the world boards in the past few days:


79 posted on 07/31/2004 4:57:00 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: sarasota

Here's the guy who says he would like to be CIC of a "stronger America!"

80 posted on 07/31/2004 4:58:01 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: jimbo123

can you determin what the hot spots or corporations that are involved in the picture?


81 posted on 07/31/2004 4:59:16 PM PDT by tmp02
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To: John Jorsett
I predict that all of the radical leftists (Pig Dung Moore, the Hollyweird crowd, et al) will have a knee-jerk reaction of glee if it happens. At which point they will have to go into hiding for all of the active blood hunts that will be sworn against them. Even lamestream news reporters will steer clear of them, for fear of catching a stray round in the back of the head.


82 posted on 07/31/2004 5:01:53 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Liberals cannot lead, if we refuse to follow..........)
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To: jimbo123

I that large building on the left Jacob Javitz? Empire state building is one.


83 posted on 07/31/2004 5:03:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: buffyt
New York is already on heightened alert for the Republican National Convention, which meets at Madison Square Garden in a month and will bring scores of high government officials to town.

Madison Square Garden sits directly above New York's Penn Station, a nexis of subway, commuter, and Amtrak trains. I just have thoughts of an Amtrak train with a WMD in the baggage. I presume and hope all train service under MSG will be suspended when Bush addresses the convention.

84 posted on 07/31/2004 5:04:07 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

they said the trains were running during the convention....


85 posted on 07/31/2004 5:05:10 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: John Jorsett
"I think they want to try and shake our psyche again," says Jerry Hauer, an ABC News consultant and former director of New York City's Office of Emergency Management. "And I think the easy types of attacks right now are car bombs, truck bombs.

Of course we can't racially profile. Who are the terrorists? Why Arab men with mustaches between the ages of 18 and 40. The Olympics, The cruise ship, The Marine barracks, The embassies in Africa, The first Trade Center bomb, The Cole, The Trade Center II Airplane assault, but don't profile.

86 posted on 07/31/2004 5:13:10 PM PDT by BIGZ (The real reason)
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To: John Jorsett
"I think they want to try and shake our psyche again," says Jerry Hauer, an ABC News consultant and former director of New York City's Office of Emergency Management. "And I think the easy types of attacks right now are car bombs, truck bombs.

Of course we can't racially profile. Who are the terrorists? Why Arab men with mustaches between the ages of 18 and 40. The Olympics, The cruise ship, The Marine barracks, The embassies in Africa, The first Trade Center bomb, The Cole, The Trade Center II Airplane assault, but don't profile.

87 posted on 07/31/2004 5:13:27 PM PDT by BIGZ (The real reason)
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To: tmp02
This article has been posted to DoctorZin’s New News Blog!


88 posted on 07/31/2004 5:16:43 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: John Jorsett

And the Democrats will scream that Bush failed to protect us, that he should apologize to the country, bla, bla, bla...


89 posted on 07/31/2004 5:18:09 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: HamiltonJay

Hard to drive trucks into Manhattan Island. Van or larger vehicles are subject to random searches. If suicide bomb trucks are used, the bombs have to be assembled inside of Manhattan and loaded on to the van/trucks shortly before the attack. That means the terrorists have to be inside Manhattan somewhere right now.


90 posted on 07/31/2004 5:20:48 PM PDT by Fee (Amatuers always tell you what they want, but it is the professionals who figure out the logistics)
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To: BurbankKarl

Javitz, Empire State Building, Penn Station, Times Square, United Nations from what I can tell. I wonder if the red buildings are car bomb targets and the other red flashes are individual suicide bomber targets.


91 posted on 07/31/2004 5:23:46 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: John Jorsett

I think that the United Nations should be shut down until we can GUARANTEE their safety. We don't want anything to happen to THEM so they should just GO HOME until further notice. DON'T CALL US, WE WILL CALL YOU!!!


92 posted on 07/31/2004 5:26:39 PM PDT by Not a 60s Hippy
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To: ConservativeMan55

If I were a terrorist, I would target New York if only because of it's symbolic importance but also in the hopes of killing as many Republican convention delegates as I could. Yes, New York in four weeks or no attack at all is my prediction.


93 posted on 07/31/2004 5:28:33 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: All

General Links of Interest:

LINKS OF INTEREST
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html


SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: "ATTACK ON AMERICA" (Updated)
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html


94 posted on 07/31/2004 5:29:13 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: NYC GOP Chick
He didn't have to get them from the White House because he WAS getting them from Sandy Berger. Just look at his December, February and March speeches.

You'll see the tone was "someone in the know".

95 posted on 07/31/2004 5:31:35 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: Mitchell; okie01; Battle Axe; TrebleRebel
The NYPD recommends that corporate and institutional security directors review their protection of HVAC systems, parking installations, and security in general
96 posted on 07/31/2004 5:33:17 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Kerry's not-quite-spoken promise to "make all this war stuff go away"

Kerry speaks in nuance.

97 posted on 07/31/2004 5:34:41 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: tmp02
Boy, I sure hope they don't attack the UN building. I think that would be the very worst thing that could happen to us.      shhhhh, I think they're buying it.
98 posted on 07/31/2004 5:35:02 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I actually was going to throw like a man before I threw like a girl." JFK 7/25/2004)
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To: buffyt
New York is already on heightened alert for the Republican National Convention

This could be a very dangerous time --- and as much as the democrats are hoping that something happens to disrupt the Republican Convention and would celebrate over it --- it could make people realize the terrorists would love a Kerry-Edward win and begin to open their eyes.

99 posted on 07/31/2004 5:38:51 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: jimbo123

terrorists would not tell you where they plan to hit. What is that thing?


100 posted on 07/31/2004 5:39:41 PM PDT by Shermy
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