Posted on 08/01/2004 7:50:32 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
ASHINGTON, Aug. 1 - The unannounced capture of a figure from Al Qaeda in Pakistan several weeks ago led the Central Intelligence Agency to the rich lode of information that prompted the terror alert on Sunday, according to senior American officials.
The figure, Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, was described by a Pakistani intelligence official as a 25-year-old computer engineer, arrested July 13, who had used and helped to operate a secret Qaeda communications system where information was transferred via coded messages.
A senior United States official would not confirm or deny that Mr. Khan had been the Qaeda figure whose capture led to the information. But the official said "documentary evidence" found after the capture had demonstrated in extraordinary detail that Qaeda members had for years conducted sophisticated and extensive reconnaissance of the financial institutions cited in the warnings on Sunday.
One senior American intelligence official said the information was more detailed and precise than any he had seen during his 24-year career in intelligence work. A second senior American official said it had provided a new window into the methods, content and distribution of Qaeda communications.
"This, for us, is a potential treasure trove," said a third senior American official, an intelligence expert, at a briefing for reporters on Sunday afternoon.
The documentary evidence, whose contents were reported urgently to Washington on Friday afternoon, immediately elevated the significance of other intelligence information gathered in recent weeks that had already been regarded as highly troubling, senior American intelligence officials said. Much of that information had come from Qaeda detainees in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia as well as Pakistan, and some had also pointed to a possible attack on financial institutions, senior American intelligence officials said.
The American officials said the new evidence had been obtained only after the capture of the Qaeda figure. Among other things, they said, it demonstrated that Qaeda plotters had begun casing the buildings in New York, Newark and Washington even before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Among the questions the plotters sought to answer, senior American intelligence officials said, were how best to gain access to the targeted buildings; how many people might be at the sites at different hours and on different days of the week; whether a hijacked oil tanker truck could serve as an effective weapon; and how large an explosive device might be required to bring the buildings down.
The American officials would say only that the Qaeda figure whose capture had led to the discovery of the documentary evidence had been captured with the help of the C.I.A. Though Pakistan announced the arrest last week of a Qaeda member, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, a Tanzanian wanted in connection with the 1998 bombings of American embassies in East Africa, the American officials suggested that he had not been the source of the new threat information.
An account provided by a Pakistani intelligence official made clear that the crucial capture in recent weeks had been that of Mr. Khan, who is also known as Abu Talha. The intelligence official provided information describing Mr. Khan as having assisted in evaluating potential American and Western targets for terrorist attacks, and as being representative of a "new Al Qaeda."
The Pakistani official described Mr. Khan as a fluent English speaker who had told investigators that he had visited the United States, Britain, Germany and other countries. Mr. Khan was one of thousands of Pakistani militants who trained in Afghanistan under the Taliban in the 1990's, the Pakistani official said.
If indeed Mr. Khan was the man whose arrest led the C.I.A. to new evidence, his role as a kind of clearinghouse of Qaeda communications, as described by the Pakistani intelligence official, could have made him a vital source of information. Since his arrest, Mr. Khan has described an elaborate communications system that involves the use of high and low technology, the Pakistani official said.
The question of how much to rely on information obtained from captured foes has always weighed on the intelligence business. In recent weeks, even as they cited accounts from some captured Qaeda members as the basis for new concerns about terrorism, American intelligence officials have acknowledged that another captured Qaeda figure, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, had recanted claims that Iraq had provided training in illicit weapons to Qaeda members.
Mr. Libi's earlier claims had been the primary basis for assertions by President Bush and his top advisers that Iraq had provided training in "poisons and gases" to Qaeda members.
In explaining the decision to call a new terror alert, American officials would say only that the evidence obtained by the C.I.A. after the arrest of the Qaeda figure in Pakistan had provided a richer, more credible source of intelligence than could have been provided by any single individual. They declined to say whether the "documentary evidence" included physical documents or might also include electronic information stored on computers, such as copies of e-mail communications.
The Qaeda communications system that Mr. Khan used and helped operate relied on Web sites and e-mail addresses in Turkey, Nigeria and the northwestern tribal areas of Pakistan, according to the information provided by a Pakistani intelligence official.
The official said Mr. Khan had told investigators that couriers carried handwritten messages or computer disks from senior Qaeda leaders hiding in isolated border areas to hard-line religious schools in Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province.
Other couriers then ferried them to Mr. Khan on the other side of the country in the eastern city of Lahore, and the computer expert then posted the messages in code on Web sites or relayed them electronically, the Pakistani official said.
Mr. Khan had told investigators that most of Al Qaeda's communications were now done through the Internet, the official said. After a message was sent and read by the recipient, the entire communication and related files were deleted to maintain secrecy, he said. Mr. Khan had told investigators that e-mail addresses were generally not used more than a few times.
The young computer engineer, who received a bachelor's degree from a university in Karachi, is the unemployed son of an employee of Pakistan's state airline and a college botany professor, the official said. Heavily built and 6 feet 2 inches tall, he speaks English with a British accent, and was arrested carrying a fake Pakistani identification card.
The Pakistani official said Mr. Khan told investigators that he had received 25 days of training at a militant camp in Afghanistan in June 1998. By the time Mr. Khan had risen to his current position, the official said, Qaeda figures had arranged his marriage and were paying him $170 a month for rent for his house in Lahore and $90 for expenses.
Mr. Khan was in contact with the brother of the Indonesian Qaeda leader Hambali, who was studying in a religious school in Karachi, and who was recently deported. Mr. Khan has told interrogators that his Qaeda handler was a Pakistani he knew as Adil or Imran, who assigned him tasks related to computer work, Web design and managing the handler's messages. His correspondents included a Saudi-based Yemeni, Egyptian and Palestinian nationals and Arabs in unknown locations, and someone described as the "in-charge" in the city of Khost in eastern Afghanistan.
Asked about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Mr. Khan has told interrogators that even the top Qaeda commanders do not know, the Pakistani intelligence official said.
Douglas Jehl reported from Washington for this article, and David Rohde from Karachi, Pakistan.
No problem here since it was reported by the uncredible NY Slimes.
Ouch
Because the NYSLIMES doesn't give a S*** if this country is hit again! Notice how the reporter says UNCONFIRMED, that's a dead give away!

I QUESTION THE TIMING! YEEEEARGH!
Passive surveillance. We're watching for their next moves to identify and locate cells.
Amazing what some panties on the head can produce.
Sounds like they put the panties on the computer and it coughed up the info.
My thoughts exactly - and there are plenty of criminal statutes under which the NYT could be prosecuted for having released this info.
I didn't notice any mention of the S. Africans we've caught lately and the passport problem. I think they also had a direct bearing on the raise in threat level.
"Why let the bad guys know how we know?"
The bad guys know who has been arrested.
'The intelligence official provided information describing Mr. Khan as having assisted in evaluating potential American and Western targets for terrorist attacks, and as being representative of a "new Al Queda."'
A "new Al Queda"? But read further and...
'The Pakistani official described Mr. Khan as a fluent English speaker who had told investigators that he had visited the United States, Britain, Germany and other countries. Mr. Khan was one of thousands of Pakistani militants who trained in Afghanistan under the Taliban in the 1990's, the Pakistani official said.'
1990's?? Looks like the "new Al Queda" has been around since the Clinton Administration. The legacy continues.
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Enough Clinton bashing already. Or have you not seen the list of terrorist attacks on Americans that dates back to at least 1979 ?? Or if you have, do you want to blame all of those on Clinton also? Give it a rest.
Clinton lied, people died.
I know, but the article refers specifically to "a new Al Queda" and that was what I was specifically pointing out.
clinton deserves all the bashing gets--and more.
But having said that, we must recognize this enemy has been studying and planning for years. They intend to use America's freedoms to destroy America. If they get a nuke, they will not hesitate to use it. They mean business. And the voters better mean business this November and not let kerry anywhere near the White House.
I agree. But it's old news, and so Dem-like to keep bashing on old news. Let's put that energy into moving forward: Re-electing Bush and defeating the terrorists.
And so the threat of terrorism has been highly exaggerated - according to that empty suit Kerry and the rest of the radical Left Dims.
And so the NY Times has been scooped by Drudge (again).
Nonetheless, this appears to be a major alert and we are about to be hit very soon and Kudos to GW and Company (and whoever aided) for nabbing this AQ monster in Pakistan.
Let's smoke 'em out, torture them for intel, and dispose of their bodies in the nearest commode.
You publicize this so the bad guys don't know which lines of communication have been compromised. Messing with their communication system may prevent attacks and/or buy us more time.
Because we are dealing with a generally decentralized enemy here.
By telling what we know of their concrete plans, the decentralized cells tasked with carrying out the now-public operations will be forced to break their radio silence.
They will have to communicate back to Osama, Zawahiri, Zarqawi, or Mullah Omar for new instructions.
When they communicate, they are vulnerable. Intercepting signals is one of the few intelligence tricks that we Americans are good, no, *exceptional* at doing.
So to round up terror cells that may already be in place here in the states, we've got to convince them to break their "radio" silence. When they are silent, we've got precious little chance of catching them prior to their attacks. When they talk, not only can we track them, but we also gain clues about the locations of their leaders.
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I was thinking that the Pakistanis might have used panties or something like panties.
I'll bet they got the information out of this guy by plying him with peanuts and beer. And then hanging him by his thumbs from the ceiling and pouring cold water on him.
Interesting. A lengthy article on terrorism and Al Qaeda, and neither "Islam" nor "Muslim" appears once.
It all started with that creep Carter. Is that better?
Not surprising... But what is surprising is the fact that anyone would comment on this. We need to follow the bread crumbs. bin Laden may be out of active communication with his folks, but I bet he and Ayman Al Zawahiri are at least utilizing couriers as General Aideed did when we had such a hard time tracking him down in 1993.
Once AQ aborts a mission because it's been uncovered, they have to start from scratch with months of planning, and so forth. But, I guess the worry would be that AQ might have alternate targets, or a Plan B or C that they could execute quickly if their first choice of targets was, for some reason, not available.
I wonder how he was persuaded to divulge this useful information?
"Let's put that energy into moving forward: Re-electing Bush and defeating the terrorists."
Well, you'll be happy to know I registered 2 new Republican voters this week!
Kerry wrote him a nice letter?
The official said Mr. Khan had told investigators that couriers carried handwritten messages or computer disks from senior Qaeda leaders hiding in isolated border areas to hard-line religious schools in Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province.
Jesuits? Southern Baptists? Mormons? Ultra-orthodoz Jews?
there is one theory out there that says this is exactly what happened at Oklahoma city.....that somebody was supposed to stop it before any actual damage was done..
and we all know what happened there....
New York Newsday: San Fran's Bank of America tower also targeted.
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WAY TO GO GOOD JOB. I'M WORKING ON ONE NOW, MAKING SOME HEADWAY. PRAY FOR ME TO GET THROUGHT TO HIM.
I'm actually trying to figure out when/why the terrorism spiked and has continued to grow since 1979. Terrorists always try to blame it on "the Israel thing", but that happened long before 1979, so what was the significance of 1979... anyone know?
(I'm just sooooo tired of seeing every 3rd post mentioning Clinton... ok, that's an exaggeration, but it IS pervasive and unproductive.)
One of them, who HATES Bush, wasn't even going to watch Kerry's speech at the DNC the other night!! She's one of the "anyone but Bush" crowd. I asked her if she watched, and she said "Yeah, I got sucked in."
Good grief!! I watched Kerry because it's my duty to be an informed voter and know who I'm voting for and why - so even though I am voting for Bush, I had a responsibility to watch Kerry. She wasn't even going to watch!!!!!!!
So I asked her, how do you think he did? She gushed, of course... "I was really really impressed, I thought he had a commanding presence, and he did a really good job."
I said, "Yeah, I thought he did a good job too. I'm not voting for him, but I thought he did a good job. Too bad they stole that "Hope is on the way" mantra from Cheney's inauguration speech in 2000."
She said "Nooooooooo?!?!?"
LOL Yep.

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To let them know how close we are coming and to stop the attacks that were planned. Make no mistake, we are not giving out any information that will hurt our efforts, but the big guys need to sweat about what else we have.
we've had the guy for almost 3 weeks before this came out. I suspect they already know their lines of communication have bee compromised
if you have their email addresses, you know where they are....
perhaps they are dumb and try to report in......if you trace the recipeints DNS number, you could find out pretty quickly where these guys are emailing from, etc.
I think we are going to see roundups soon.
the south african is a different cell supposedly....Ridge said that arrest wasnt gleaned from this information
To see what move they do next?
The thought of being locked up in a room listening to Barry Manilow tapes is absolutely chilling.
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