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Low-cost Chinese knockoffs burning maker of Zippo lighters
Times Leader/AP Wire ^ | 8/3/2004

Posted on 08/03/2004 7:14:02 AM PDT by Born Conservative

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1 posted on 08/03/2004 7:14:03 AM PDT by Born Conservative
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"This administration is getting tough," said Peterson, who was at Zippo company headquarters Monday. "They will go to whatever means necessary to hold China accountable."

Gotta wonder what Mr. Peterson is lighting with his Zippo, if he thinks this administration will be tough with China.

2 posted on 08/03/2004 7:18:38 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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True, the are getting tough. They now are saying pretty, pretty please, instead of just please.


3 posted on 08/03/2004 7:21:27 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Power corrupts..... Absolute power can be fun.)
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4 posted on 08/03/2004 7:22:00 AM PDT by Murtyo
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Who carries a five pound steel lighter anymore that when lit it smells like gasoline?


5 posted on 08/03/2004 7:23:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Windproof and indestructible (with a lifetime guarantee).


6 posted on 08/03/2004 7:26:37 AM PDT by Petronski (Edwards threatening al Qaida is like Pee Wee Herman threatening Luca Brazzi.)
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I still have a couple of my dad's old Zippo lighters. He quit smoking in 1960 after his first heart attack. They still give a whiff of gas...


7 posted on 08/03/2004 7:39:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Maybe they should vote for more Democrats like Sick Willie who gave China our U.S. patents, plans and all.


8 posted on 08/03/2004 7:55:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (Your parents are Pro-Choice? You're lucky to be here!)
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where's MY MAN WILLIE


9 posted on 08/03/2004 8:00:36 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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I was in Sao Paolo, Brazil about 5 years ago. They've got entire shopping malls selling knockoffs of American and Japanese goods.


10 posted on 08/03/2004 8:11:15 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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Who carries a five pound steel lighter anymore that when lit it smells like gasoline?
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Ask one of those Evil Cigarette Smoking Veterans who still carry one. Mine is from my first ship in '65. They fix them forever but I still buy one on occasion. Those throw away ones are a piece of Crap,and are worth what you pay for them. They are not prone to "cooking off" in a hot car or other hazzards associated with knock off BICs.


11 posted on 08/03/2004 8:23:59 AM PDT by YOMO
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Mine is from my first ship in '65.

tHAT'S DIFFERENT. I just see their market slipping over the decades.

12 posted on 08/03/2004 8:26:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Has a ring of "The Magnificent Ambersons" to it. Won't manufacture overseas, even for sales in the overseas markets. Then complains that other companies are making the same product and selling it in those countries.

Don't get me wrong, Chinese companies should not be knocking off Zippo product. But, Zippo lighters should not also be 10 times more expensive in China simply because Zippo does not want to manufacturer there.

Instead of spending $10 million chasing down foreign companies that copy its product it should have spent $10 million giving those companies a run for their money. And their efforts to stop the copies in China would be much more successful with a foothold in the country.

13 posted on 08/03/2004 8:39:08 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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Has a ring of "The Magnificent Ambersons" to it. Won't manufacture overseas, even for sales in the overseas markets. Then complains that other companies are making the same product and selling it in those countries.

Don't get me wrong, Chinese companies should not be knocking off Zippo product. But, Zippo lighters should not also be 10 times more expensive in China simply because Zippo does not want to manufacturer there.

Instead of spending $10 million chasing down foreign companies that copy its product it should have spent $10 million giving those companies a run for their money. And their efforts to stop the copies in China would be much more successful with a foothold in the country.

14 posted on 08/03/2004 8:44:05 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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Cheap Zippo knockoffs have been getting made all over the world for decades. I got one once in a Camel promotion that sucked so bad you couldn't actually remove the guts from the shell, eventually we even tried with two of us grabbing onto various parts with pliers and pulling.

Of course reduced levels of smoking hurts them. As does Zippos own quality, I've owned three Zippos in my life, one was a gift, one wound up a gift, and the third was just a wild hair thing (I really like the brushed look). Since I still have two of them it's highly unlikely I'll be buying another. Sometimes making the best product in the world isn't actually a good thing.


15 posted on 08/03/2004 8:45:15 AM PDT by discostu (Gravity is a harsh mistress)
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Asia remains a huge market for Zippo

So why aren't the manufacturing there. Seems kind of dumb not to be set up where your company does 20 percent of its business.

16 posted on 08/03/2004 8:48:05 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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Honestly I don't see the problem here. The things have been around forever and are primitively simple so there shouldn't be any patent issues to deal with. About the only piracy involved would be if they copied the Zippo trademark itself.


17 posted on 08/03/2004 8:50:10 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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Even though I quit smoking I still always bring a fully charged and ready Zippo any time I go out into the non-urbanized world. I know with complete confidence that any disaster that renders my Zippo incapable of lighting a signal fire that could save my life will have first rendered me incapable of motion, it's a 100% reliable source of fire, and if you bring the can of extra fluid you've even got a good cheat method of getting your fire started.


18 posted on 08/03/2004 8:51:05 AM PDT by discostu (Gravity is a harsh mistress)
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So why aren't the manufacturing there. Seems kind of dumb not to be set up where your company does 20 percent of its business.

I got the impression from the article -- "Zippo, which employs about 700 people, has refused to manufacture overseas." -- that the Zippo company values patriotism (or nationalism) ahead of profits. I wonder how many of the 700 workers truly appreciate that.

19 posted on 08/03/2004 9:44:40 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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i still have and occasionally use the 4-dot Zippo my Mom gave my Dad in 1942 when he joined the Navy while the one she gave me is loooong gone
20 posted on 08/03/2004 10:32:36 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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