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'Politics Trumps Science' at Psychological Association, Critic Says
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 8/04/04 | Sarah Junk

Posted on 08/04/2004 3:53:48 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - The American Psychological Association's recent endorsement of homosexual marriage, which followed its support for homosexual adoption and the removal of sodomy laws, shows that the group places politics before science, according a conservative critic.

"Politics trumps science in some of these organizations, particularly when a pro-homosexual ideology is the governing principle" said Peter Sprigg, senior director of policy studies at the Family Research Council.

But in defending the decision, Armand Cerbone, chairman of the American Psychological Association's Working Group on Same-Sex Families and Relationships, said "APA and psychologists had to grapple with the issue of what psychology believes is in the public interest in this controversy."

The APA has expressed its support in the past for allowing homosexuals in the military and as Boy Scout leaders. And it long ago sided with the American Psychiatric Association in removing homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. In doing so, the American Psychological Association approved a resolution declaring that "homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgment, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities."

Removing homosexuality as a mental disorder was "the first step in a long-term agenda to normalize the practice of homosexuality in the eyes of the public," said Sprigg.

Another conservative group, Focus on the Family, has criticized the APA for its endorsement of same-sex marriage, claiming that it would make "lab rats" out of children exposed to the "social experiment."

The American Psychological Association in recent years "has become more and more involved in advocacy for certain political viewpoints," said Bill Maier, vice president of Focus on the Family.

Maier said APA's endorsement of homosexual marriage does not necessarily mean that rank-and-file psychologists agree with the decision, but rather that the idea comes from "a very powerful special interest" inside the APA - the Committee on Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Concerns.

"A scientific organization has no place in advocating social policy," said Maier. "That's not their role."

Individuals unhappy with their same-sex attractions often refuse to get help from psychologists, said Arthur Goldberg, co-director of JONAH (Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality). That's because the American Psychological Association is perceived to be an organization dedicated to political correctness, he said. The APA is critical of professional attempts to change sexual orientation.

"They need to know they have the ability to change, and unfortunately the politically correct focus is to try to keep this as a secret ... to not let people know they have the ability to change," said Goldberg. He said that people who are unhappy with their same-sex attractions often turn to "ex-gay" or religious organizations that have training in the "gender affirming process" instead of seeing traditional psychologists.

Ron Schlittler, interim executive director of PFLAG (Parents, Families & Friends of Lesbians & Gays), has a different perspective. The endorsement of same-sex marriage by "respected organizations that a lot of people look to for thoughtful fact-based information" such as the APA is helpful, he said.

"Just because they conclude that what the gay and lesbian community has been saying all along happens to be true doesn't make them apologists or out with a certain agenda," said Schlittler. He added that groups that portray themselves as pro-family and condemn homosexual marriage are "choosing to not pay attention to the richness and texture of what the American family really is."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apa; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 08/04/2004 3:53:48 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

the science of psychology today is as advanced as the science of mathmatics was in 1000 BC.


2 posted on 08/04/2004 3:57:26 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus

It isn't a science at all. It's much closer to religion.


3 posted on 08/04/2004 3:59:03 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: kattracks
psychologists had to grapple with the issue of what psychology believes is in the public interest

Gee, if "psychology" has an opinion on this, I wonder what "psychology's" opinion is on Presidential candidates? Sounds remarkably like the Dim's platform strategy - hide behind some nonexistent entity instead of saying that it is your own opinion...

5 posted on 08/04/2004 4:10:15 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: kattracks

Science isn't supposed to have a "public interest". Science is supposed to describe what is and if possible the why's and wherefore's.
This means that psycology is not "science" at all. They are embracing the notion that its ok to be gay, that its a normal state of being. I would note that a person born with a physical deformity might be able to function at levels expected of a full bodied individual, but that does not make him normal.


6 posted on 08/04/2004 4:21:51 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: All
Removing homosexuality as a mental disorder was "the first step in a long-term agenda to normalize the practice of homosexuality in the eyes of the public."

This organization has been captured by zealots who promoted the views of sex maniac Alfred Kinsey, persuaded the deluded Supreme Court to flood unsuspecting America with pornography, ruined countless lives by sanctioning divorce, devastated our criminal justice system with their crackpot ideas, and encouraged the public at every turn to abandon God and traditional morality.

There are plenty of psychologists with common sense - - why don't they start a rival group?

7 posted on 08/04/2004 4:49:08 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: kattracks; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
The institution of Western science is disapearing on our eyes as the Christian civilization of the West is going under.

Social sciences are being devoured by political correctness while "hard" sciences are being commercialized and absorbed by the big business.

8 posted on 08/04/2004 5:17:09 AM PDT by A. Pole (Captain Mandrake: "What do you mean 'suit'? This happens to be an RAF uniform, sir.")
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To: Semper Paratus

They actually had some pretty solid mathematics, if not terribly sophisticated, in 1000 BC. Psychology more resembles tribal shamanistic practices... if we do this dance, it will rain... eventually...


9 posted on 08/04/2004 6:20:16 AM PDT by thoughtomator (John Kerry reporting for duty - making sure that nobody interferes with Hillary's run in 2008)
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To: kattracks

The APA: Prostitutes


10 posted on 08/04/2004 6:51:04 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Liberty Wins; A. Pole; TonyRo76
What actually happened in the early 70s was that a vile mob of sodomite disrupters "demonstrated" at several successive APA conventions, using all sorts of disrupter tactics. Very soon thereafter, the APA capitualted and declared homosexualty not to be a mental illness.

In our Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the sodomites (including both the "inside" "Lutherans Concerned" group and the non-Lutheran "Soulforce" professional disrupters) used exactly the same tactics at the Churchwide Assembly in 2001. As a result , the Assembly mandated a four year "sexuality study" process, with a mandated 2005 vote on "blessing" same-sex "unions" and "ordaining" "partnered" gaysbians. Homosexuals--including "Soulforce"--have been using the same stromtrooper tactics against other churches, most of which are capitulating.

NO organization or institution should EVER capitulate to "gay" stormtroopers!!!! Call the police, and have every one of them arrested if necessary!! Press charges, and sue groups like "Soulforce" and "Lutherans Concerned", until they can no longer operate financially. HomoNazi organizations must be seen for EXACTLY what they are, and must be stopped cold before they destroy our civilization!!!!

11 posted on 08/04/2004 7:05:32 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska!)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Ping


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

12 posted on 08/04/2004 8:58:56 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: kattracks; lentulusgracchus
The homosexual communtiy's well planned and well financed campaign to remove homosexuality from the DSM began with their infiltration of the American Psychiatric Association. It wasn't science, but rather pro-homosexual activism that was, and continues to be, the primary force behind policy changes and the politically correct statments made by the APA and the majority of the other "professional" medical organizations.

This was the homosexual community's biggest victory. It permitted them to claim that "homosexuality is normal" and set the stage to present this "normalcy" to the general public via a well planned media campaign ( outlined in 'The Overhauling of Straight America' ), and to kids in the public schools via Kevin Jennings' GLSEN. Kids as young as kindergarten age are now being indoctrinated with "homosexuality is normal."

For documentation of homosexual activism in both the APA's and the AAP, see the following replies in scripter's "Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Revision 1.1)" thread:

American Psychological Association: 121, 240, 242 and 300.

American Psychiatric Association: 46, 139, 213, 232, 237, 239, 241, 243, and 246 and 300.

American Academy of Pediatrics: 284


References:

U.S. psychologists embrace same-sex marriage

Selling Homosexuality to America

The Overhauling of Straight America

The Homosexual Propaganda and Media Manipulation Game

Homosexual Agenda Platforms from 1972 - 2000 [plus other resources]

Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Differences' and Homosexuality Isn't 'Easy' in Newton

NEA Cautioned Not to Accept American Psychological Association's "Just the Facts"



13 posted on 08/04/2004 9:08:28 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: kattracks; EdReform; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

- Homosexual Agenda PING -

More from the lunatics at the APA.
More attempts to destroy traditional morality.

The Culture War is in full swing - make sure you stay up-to-date on EdReforms links...there are VOLUMES of information there, and it'll help you stay current.

(If you want on or off this ping list, please FReepmail me.)

*Use post twice daily, or as recommended by doctor or freeper.*


14 posted on 08/04/2004 10:01:04 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (1xy1xx)
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To: Liberty Wins

"This organization has been captured by zealots who promoted the views of sex maniac Alfred Kinsey, persuaded the deluded Supreme Court to flood unsuspecting America with pornography, ruined countless lives by sanctioning divorce, devastated our criminal justice system with their crackpot ideas, and encouraged the public at every turn to abandon God and traditional morality."

Just call them Lunatic Liberal Zealots.


15 posted on 08/04/2004 10:05:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Candidate, al Kerry said in his convention speech "Judge me by my record"...)
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To: kattracks

My gay psychologist friend (I know, hard to imagine) has told me that he has no respect for Focus on the Family and the American Family Association because they use gay/lesbian, as well as family, issues for political purposes. I now have a comeback...


16 posted on 08/04/2004 10:55:48 AM PDT by Mockingbird For Short ("When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8)
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To: bd476

wink wink :)


17 posted on 08/04/2004 3:16:51 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: agitator
Baby out with the bathwater alternative? Warning: The link goes to a Scientology site.
18 posted on 08/04/2004 3:34:13 PM PDT by bd476
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