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Cuban 'Fahrenheit' Telecast Raises Oscar Questions
Yahoo ^ | Aug 3, 2004 | Steve Gorman

Posted on 08/04/2004 3:10:45 PM PDT by swilhelm73

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A recent broadcast on Cuban television of Michael Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" has raised questions about the Oscar eligibility of one of America's most talked-about and critically acclaimed movies of the year.

Under Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (news - web sites) rules, films are disqualified from competing in the Oscar race for best documentary if shown on television or on the Internet within nine months of their theatrical release.

However, an unauthorized or pirated display of a film would not render the movie ineligible, academy spokesman John Pavlik said on Tuesday.

"If somebody steals your movie and puts it on TV, we're not going to penalize you for it," he told Reuters.

Pavlik added that the Academy had not looked into the circumstances surrounding the film's prime-time broadcast last Thursday on state-run television in Cuba.

Moore's blistering critique of the President Bush (news - web sites) and his conduct of the war in Iraq (news - web sites) also played to packed movie houses on the communist-ruled island for a week.

A spokesman for one of the film's U.S. distributors, the Fellowship Adventure Group -- formed by Miramax Films co-chairman Bob and Harvey Weinstein -- told Reuters the TV broadcast in Cuba was "not authorized."

And entertainment trade paper Daily Variety reported that the French-based overseas distributor for the film, Wild Bunch, denied that it had made any TV deal in Cuba.

Because the Academy rule restricting TV or Internet display of Oscar contenders applies only to documentaries, "Fahrenheit 9/11" could still qualify for nomination as best picture, best director or best original screenplay.

Variety speculated that backers of the film might regard the movie, which has been popular among Hollywood's liberal-leaning elite, as having a better chance of clinching a nomination in the best picture race if it was disqualified from the documentary contest.

Producers of Moore's film have another month to decide how they want the film to be entered in Oscar competition. The deadline for submission of documentary candidates is Sept. 1. Pavlik said the academy typically receives about 60 submissions for that category.

Last year's Academy Award for best documentary feature went to the Errol Morris film "Fog of War," about the difficult lessons of military conflict learned by former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. Moore won the year before for his study of gun violence in America, "Bowling for Columbine."


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Talk about getting your just desserts. Let a third world despot air your anti-american film and no oscar for our most famous anti-american propagandist. HA!
1 posted on 08/04/2004 3:10:49 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

What do you want to bet the Academy will quietly ignore this little obstacle?


2 posted on 08/04/2004 3:12:37 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: swilhelm73

First, the Academy has to look again at the definition of "Documentary" - Moore's film does not fit the definition.


3 posted on 08/04/2004 3:13:07 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Michael Moore has made "documentary" a 1-word oxymoron.)
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To: My2Cents

Done. Michael Medved reported today that the Academy has decided to allow the movie for oscar consideration because the copy shown was a "bootleg" and was obtain without permission.


No telling if it was shot by Cosmo Kramer with a camcorder.


4 posted on 08/04/2004 3:17:24 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: Keith in Iowa

"Friends, commies, liars, thieves,imbeciles, trade unionists, trial lawyers and homosexuals"

Lend me your ears.

5 posted on 08/04/2004 3:19:09 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: swilhelm73
1. it's not a documentary in the first place,
2. but rather is just simply anti-Bush propaganda, and
3. since the "academy" didn't let a little thing like that get in the way with his last propaganda piece ("Bowling for Columbine"),

I hardly think the "academy" will start to enforce some less obvious rule such as 9 months - no TV when they don't even honor their own "category" rules in the first place, i.e. "definition of documentary"

6 posted on 08/04/2004 3:19:26 PM PDT by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: My2Cents

I'm wondering if this was done to get the Academy off the hook. Gutless wonders.


7 posted on 08/04/2004 3:20:22 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: socal_parrot
Is this fat commie SOB on record stating it was used without his permission?

ORDEN minds want to know.

8 posted on 08/04/2004 3:22:49 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: Rome2000

I'll bet Moore personally delivered a print without even bothering to tell Miramax.


9 posted on 08/04/2004 3:28:14 PM PDT by william clark
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To: swilhelm73

I hope it wins best picture of the year. That will be the ultimate indictment of the entire industry.


10 posted on 08/04/2004 3:30:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Rome2000
Here's an article about the decision...

Cuban screening won't rule Moore out of Oscars

Michael Moore
Michael Moore: tipped to win best director Oscar
Photo: AP
 
Fahrenheit 9/11 is still eligible for next year's Oscars despite being screened on Cuban TV last week, the Academy of Motions Picture Arts and Sciences has admitted.

There had been fears that the illegal broadcast might have scuppered director Michael Moore's chance to add to his 2003 award for Bowling For Columbine. The Academy rules that any feature documentary that airs on TV within nine months of its theatrical release is automatically barred from contention.

Michael Moore's provocative portrait of the Bush administration was given a primetime slot on Cuba's state-run TV station last Tuesday. But the film's backers insist that the screening was illegal, unauthorised and broadcast from a pirate copy. There are also believed to be 120 pirate DVDs of the film currently playing at cinemas across Cuba.

In a joint statement, the film's distributors - Harvey and Bob Weinstein, IFC Entertainment chief Jonathan Sehring and Lions Gate president Tom Ortenberg, insisted that the Academy's rule "has not been violated because it was a stolen copy and was in no way authorised by its distributors".

Yesterday the Academy appeared to accept the argument. "As far as we are concerned, if this was a bootleg, as we believe it was, then we will not penalise them," Academy director of communications John Pavlik told Variety.

The makers of Fahrenheit 9/11 have until September 1 to submit it for consideration for next year's best documentary feature Oscar. However, there is speculation that the film may yet be entered in the race for best picture, with Moore already tipped as an outside bet for best director.




11 posted on 08/04/2004 3:30:13 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: P-Marlowe
I hope it wins best picture of the year. That will be the ultimate indictment
of the entire industry.


Well put!
12 posted on 08/04/2004 3:33:53 PM PDT by VOA
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To: socal_parrot

Holy Cow, Ron Reagan Jr. just had to weigh in on this controversial issue.

13 posted on 08/04/2004 3:34:24 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: Rome2000
File photo of Ron Reagan...


14 posted on 08/04/2004 3:39:04 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: swilhelm73

Moore's propaganda is perfect made-for-TV fare in communist dictatorships.

Hollywood would never penalize him for that.


15 posted on 08/04/2004 3:42:31 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: swilhelm73
or on the Internet

Didn't the Lion's Gate website have F911 available for download for a day or two? I'm pretty sure it did, I was on that thread and other Freepers confirmed it.
16 posted on 08/04/2004 3:44:35 PM PDT by Nataku X (Your average liberal FEELS that Bush must be a liar... therefore it's an undeniable fact!)
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To: Nakatu X
Lets see, the Democrat propagandist has a side job as a Communist propagandist.

Can't wait to see this story on "World News Tonight" with Peter Jennings.

17 posted on 08/04/2004 3:52:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: swilhelm73
Why is Farenheit 911 being awarded an Oscar surprising or undesirable? They've got to give it something now that they no longer give out the Order of Lenin award.
18 posted on 08/04/2004 3:54:12 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: Keith in Iowa
First, the Academy has to look again at the definition of "Documentary" - Moore's film does not fit the definition.

Does it really matter? Does the film really warrant any consideration at all? Since your obvious answers are no to both, it will be nominated nevertheless. The fact that it will be simply proves the bigotry of the hollywood elitists towards us conservatives and any award given is merely icing on the top......

19 posted on 08/04/2004 3:57:23 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (After 30+ years dealing with idiots, I still haven't earned the right to just shoot them.....)
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To: swilhelm73

Who cares if it gets an oscar or not? Why are people so obsessed with people in the movie industry giving each other awards? The arts crowd is sooooo full of themselves.

I remember a few years ago they were having a "Day Without Art". They were covering up art works to make a point about all of the gay artists who croaked from aids. My reaction: Thank God they weren't plumbers.


20 posted on 08/04/2004 4:06:10 PM PDT by beef ("Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth.")
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To: My2Cents

Absolutely - considering it is not actually a "documentary" in the first place . . .


. . . rules as for litle prople, and not the Hollywood gliterrati.


21 posted on 08/04/2004 4:33:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: Keith in Iowa
Rule Twelve Special Rules for The Documentary Awards I. DEFINITION 1. An eligible documentary film is defined as a theatrically released non-fiction motion picture dealing creatively with cultural, artistic, historical, social, scientific, economic or other subjects. It may be photographed in actual occurrence, or may employ partial re-enactment, stock footage, stills, animation, stop-motion or other techniques, as long as the emphasis is on fact and not on fiction.

i would say it is a documentary, but you may argue it isnt a very good one because it is (say) innacurate.
22 posted on 08/04/2004 5:38:43 PM PDT by sweneop
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To: swilhelm73
This is the first article I've seen to assert that the televising of this film was unauthorized. Seems they would have made a bigger stink about it before the "Oscar" question came up.

Why isn't the MPAA railing against this piracy, isn't that one of their big pet issues these days?

Didn't Michael Moore give tacit approval to those who bootlegged this film because he wanted it to be seen? It seems that the topic came up in one of his interviews.

23 posted on 08/04/2004 6:12:31 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Note that they say it is elligible for "Best Screenplay", wouldn't that disavow the "documentary" status? Has any other documentary been nominated for "Best Screenplay"?


24 posted on 08/04/2004 6:13:50 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I hope it wins best picture of the year. That will be the ultimate indictment of the entire industry.

If "Bowling For Columbine" was this industry's indictment, then "F-9/11" is it's conviction to a life sentence.

25 posted on 08/04/2004 6:17:39 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Conservative, Republican, Raider Fan)
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To: mewzilla
The Academy has also censored criticism of this film by other filmmakers:

Academy drafts new dirty tricks rules (No negative campaigning in Oscar race)

26 posted on 08/04/2004 6:20:01 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: swilhelm73

I fully expect PBS to air this film on TV the night before the election.


27 posted on 08/04/2004 7:36:02 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: weegee

Well, it is fiction.


28 posted on 09/18/2004 1:15:40 PM PDT by Raven281
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To: aimhigh

No doubt they will..I think they should place it in a new catagory Sh*t film of the year .Personally ,I'd hang him for treason


29 posted on 09/18/2004 1:20:18 PM PDT by omstrat (zip code77034)
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To: swilhelm73
Axis Mikey has already decided to forgo the "Best Documentary" nomination and to instead compete in the other categories this year.

Lord Fat Ass (heir apparent to Nazi Germany American broadcaster Lord Haw Haw) is still trying to swing an election eve broadcast in the United States for his film.

I've tried to raise the point several times that I certainly didn't hear any shouts from Michael Moore, his investors/distributors, or the MPAA over Cuba's violating of Michael Moore's film rights. I still suspect that it was an authorized showing.
30 posted on 09/18/2004 2:53:59 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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