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Washington Wrap (Take this Bounce and Shove It!)
CBS News ^ | Friday, August 6, 2004 | Dotty Lynch, Beth Lester, Clothilde Ewing, and Dan Furman

Posted on 08/06/2004 8:10:05 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Trail Bytes Kerry on the Stump: On Thursday John Kerry spoke to the UNITY: Journalists of Color Convention 2004 and was asked what he would have done if he were president and heard about the 9-11 attacks while reading to school children Full article here

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Take this Bounce and Shove it!

Regarding Kerry's convention speech last week (you know, the one where he said he defended America in Vietnam after those 19 Vietcong hijackers crashed jets into . . . oops, never mind), Washington Post reporter David Broder wrote in a column Sunday that "preliminary indications are that it worked well, not just inside the FleetCenter and here in his hometown (in Boston), but with many in the national audience. The first feedback I heard was almost uniformly positive." (The feedback consisted of, 'Wow, he finally broke his silence about serving in Vietnam!)

Richard Cohen, another Post columnist, columnized Sunday that Kerry presented "a package that can only be called presidential. He came across as thoughtful and smart and experienced and, critically important, personally compelling." (No wonder the delegates loved his lengthy speech so much. You should've seen the standing ovation Kerry got when he said, "In closing . . . ")

Los Angeles Times reporter, Ronald Brownstein, declared the speech a terrific success, noting that Kerry, sounding "confident and combative," had "signaled his determination to fight the fall campaign on terrain that the White House has long assumed would belong to President Bush: Strength, integrity, values and the prosecution of the war on terror." Indeed, at the convention, Democrats packed the stage with retired generals and admirals, and, to show they're really strong on defense, not once did delegates call them 'War Pigs!' nor 'Baby Killers!' It was a remarkable show of restraint. (And, speak of restraint, did you see Teresa on Tuesday night? Pundits called her "warm," "spectacular," "likable," "sexy." For John Kerry, no doubt Teresa was love at first Billion.)

In his speech, Kerry vowed to "bring back this nation's time-honored tradition" that the U.S. "never goes to war because we want to, we only go to war because we have to," like Kerry did regarding Iraq. Kerry voted for war, not because he wanted to, but because he had to -- he had to avoid looking like Dukakis. Then he changed his mind and voted against it -- the funding, anyway. (Democrats want Bush to confess that taking down Saddam was a mistake, a crime of passion and plead temporary insanity to avoid impeachment.)

Doyle McManus, another L.A. Times reporter, declared Kerry's speech a terrific success. TV "ratings for his acceptance speech" were "strong"; Kerry got a "wave of generally positive news coverage" and the speech conveyed "a message that a Kerry administration would be strong on defense in the struggle against terrorism." (Kerry would be so strong against terror, al-Qaeda plans to disrupt our elections just to get that warmonger from Massachusetts elected to liven things up.) With the speech, "Kerry largely succeeded at the tasks he set for himself at the convention," wrote McManus.

Kerry so largely succeeded, he largely succeeded in giving Bush a 5 point bounce, a new USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup poll shows. (Gallup is deemed "the historic standard" in tracking convention bounces, noted Deborah Orin of the New York Post Monday.) Bush now leads Kerry among likely voters, 51%-47%. Kerry led Bush by 2 points before Kerry 'largely succeeded' in Boston last week. Kerry's speech was effective -- it improved voters' opinion of Bush as President, boosting their willingness to vote for Bush. Millions of voters were moved by Kerry's speech to vote for Bush. The convention gave Bush the biggest lift he could have hoped from a Democrat convention that 'largely succeeded.' Kerry emerged from his 'largely successful' convention with the party unified -- the Republican Party. According to Gallup, "a relatively high proportion of Americans (gave) Kerry's acceptance speech stellar reviews," which all but assured Bush's support would go up. Kerry's speech did seem to bring voters closer together -- closer together against Kerry. (Maybe they should've delayed Kerry's speech to 2 a.m. to limit viewership -- just a hunch.)

USA Today reports that "pollsters and strategists are puzzling over Kerry's failure" to produce any bounce for himself after "a convention that even critics acknowledge went almost precisely as planned." (Indeed, for example, Nielsen ratings showed high viewership during the first half of Kerry's speech, though the high viewership fell asleep during the second half.) Keen observers and campaign watchers have no idea why, after a week of Jimmy Carter, Al Sharton, Howard Dean and Ted Kennedy on primetime TV, no Bounce for Kerry has been found. Search crews have scoured polls for days but have failed to turn up any Bounce, the main rationale behind the convention. Experts insist that conventions have always had plenty of Bounce and urged patience. Eventually the Bounce will be found. Yet, questions continue to be raised: Did John Kerry lead his party into Boston based on lies that a Bounce will be found? Did Democrats go to convention on a false pretense? Or could the Bounce have been hidden? With Kerry's credibility at risk in the search for a Bounce, again, some hold out hope that a Bounce might yet be found.

John Harwood of the Wall Street Journal told Meet The Press Sunday that the reason Kerry didn't get the usual 6-7 point bounce is because voters have already made up their minds, and, anyway, these polls were taken "before the historical peak of these bounces," usually during the weekend, when "low information voters start "absorbing this information" (Honey, play back that convention tape one more time. That balloon-drop looked quite compelling), so expect Kerry to get the usual 6-7 point bounce. In other words, Kerry got no bounce because there aren't enough persuadable voters but, by Monday, Kerry will get a bounce because it's not like there aren't enough persuadable voters. It's not more complicated than that.

So, you'd think Bush would be basking in the glow of his post-convention bounce, resting on his laurels, right? Not a chance. Instead, he went right to work, on Monday endorsing creation of a post of National Intelligence Director and counterterrorism operations center, a move immediately denounced by Kerry as too little, too late. Kerry says he can fight a more effective war on terrorism because he served in Vietnam for four months. (In Vietnam, Kerry says he fought the war on communism and lost. So, to fight the war on terror and win -- who you gonna call? Trust me -- I'm your guy!)

On Monday, Kerry and the media angrily blasted Bush for not taking the threat of terror seriously enough, of not acting with sufficient urgency. More can be done, and must be done -- now! Call the Congress back and get the job done -- now! Ports, bridges, ships, buildings, infrastructure -- all should be secured . . . now! Hire more FBI -- now! The time to act is now, not later!

Frankly, I question the timing of this fearmongering by Kerry. I'm concerned that every time something happens that's not good for Kerry, he plays his 'trump card', which is fearmongering, and then out comes Howard Dean.

Kerry crowed that he endorsed the 9/11 Commission report as written before it was written. (Bush is a slowpoke! Bush is a slowpoke! Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyahhhh, nyah!)

Late Monday, Democrats and the media angrily blasted Bush for exaggerating the threat of terror, of pushing fear for political gain, of acting as if there was some sort of urgency when there wasn't. The Department of Homeland Security on Sunday raised the threat alert level for financial centers in New York, New Jersey and the nation's capital, a move condemned as political by Democrats. Howard Dean told CNN he questioned the timing, accusing Bush of holding back the new information behind the heightened alert in order to blunt Kerry's post-convention Bounce that hasn't been found, when the right thing to do was to share the information as soon as it was uncovered -- in mid-July -- so that Dean could then accuse Bush of trying to blunt Kerry's pre-convention Bounce that had also never been found. (Notice how we're not talking about Kerry's warm, charming personality nor about the very shy, very quiet Teresa? hmmmmmm?)

Kerry, campaigning in Michigan, told CNN that, by moving so fast and not "reaching out to other countries" in fighting terrorism, "Bush is actually encouraging the recruitment of terrorists." (Bush, in 30-second recruitment ad, with thick Texas twang, says: 'Join al-Qaeda, See the World.') So, lemme get this straight: By killing and capturing so many al-Qaeda, Bush has forced al-Qaeda to recruit more al-Qaeda, in order to replenish al-Qaeda that Bush has killed or captured, or risk running out of al-Qaeda, and Kerry says this is something we should worry about. (I'm melting in fear like marshmallows.) And just think how safe we would be today if only Bush had retaliated more gently after 9/11. (I bet you thought Democrats were Blame-America-Firsters, didn't ya?)

Dean says he's "concerned that every time something happens that's not good for President Bush, he plays his trump card, which is terrorism, and then out comes Tom Ridge" and Condi Rice and Colin Powell and Dick Cheney . . . Yeeeaaaarggggh! Dean's remark should do wonders to reinforce his image as even-tempered, always thoughtful and self-controlled.

Question: Why does Dean say these things? Only a CAT scan of the head can answer.

;-)

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dncconvention; kerry; kerrybounce

1 posted on 08/06/2004 8:10:05 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ladyinred; Angel; ..

Have a great weekend, y'all -- God bless, see you soon.


2 posted on 08/06/2004 8:11:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
ABC CBS CNN FOX NBC



Why do the TV and Cable Newsrooms
hide Hanoi Kerry's past?

3 posted on 08/06/2004 8:17:09 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: JohnHuang2

Thank you oh so very much for this excellent essay!!!


4 posted on 08/06/2004 8:23:14 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JohnHuang2
Kerry so largely succeeded, he largely succeeded in giving Bush a 5 point bounce, a new USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup poll shows. (Gallup is deemed "the historic standard" in tracking convention bounces, noted Deborah Orin of the New York Post Monday.) Bush now leads Kerry among likely voters, 51%-47%. Kerry led Bush by 2 points before Kerry 'largely succeeded' in Boston last week. Kerry's speech was effective -- it improved voters' opinion of Bush as President, boosting their willingness to vote for Bush. Millions of voters were moved by Kerry's speech to vote for Bush. The convention gave Bush the biggest lift he could have hoped from a Democrat convention that 'largely succeeded.' Kerry emerged from his 'largely successful' convention with the party unified -- the Republican Party. According to Gallup, "a relatively high proportion of Americans (gave) Kerry's acceptance speech stellar reviews," which all but assured Bush's support would go up. Kerry's speech did seem to bring voters closer together -- closer together against Kerry. (Maybe they should've delayed Kerry's speech to 2 a.m. to limit viewership -- just a hunch.)

That whole paragraph says it all!

5 posted on 08/06/2004 8:24:47 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: JohnHuang2; Gman; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Miss Marple; Howlin; ...

Here is something else you might want to get the word out about moi Kerri.

Here are his own words about how he did nothing for 40 minutes after the second plane hit the towers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1185921/posts

What Kerry REALLY did on 9/11!!!!
NRO Corner ^


Posted on 08/05/2004 6:26:40 PM PDT by The G Man


This was posted on The Corner at NRO. Thought it worth posting here:

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WHAT KERRY DID [KJL]
Listen, he wasn't president on Sept. 11, and I am not questioning his reflexes or reactions, but it is worth noting what Kerry did do on Sept. 11, 2001. Here's what he told Larry King: "...And as I came in [to a meeting in Sen. Daschle's office], Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon..."

Kudos to Red State for finding that. And for noting: "It should be noted that the second plane hit the World Trade Center at 9:03 a.m., and the plane hit the Pentagon at 9:43 a.m. By Kerry's own words, he and his fellow senators sat there for forty minutes, realizing 'nobody could think.'"


6 posted on 08/06/2004 8:30:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The Franchurian Dork Candidate, moi Kerri, in his convention speech "Judge me by my record"...)
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To: JohnHuang2

Excellent Two Cents, JH2!!!


7 posted on 08/06/2004 8:36:37 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Ahem:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1185601/posts?page=174#174

Please note the time that was posted!


8 posted on 08/06/2004 8:37:19 AM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: JohnHuang2

Another winner, JH2!!

Especially good insight on the "they've already made up their minds" and "the bounce is delayed" in the same breath.


9 posted on 08/06/2004 8:43:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: Howlin
Reading that thread last night made my day. Thanks to you and the other sharp-eyed freepers 24 hours ago!
10 posted on 08/06/2004 8:56:22 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Kerry's brain........outsourced to his hair.)
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To: JohnHuang2
That loud thud you heard last week is kerry's bounce.
Any more bounces like this and he'll be lucky to hit 6 figures in the vote total
11 posted on 08/06/2004 10:05:03 AM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: Grampa Dave; redstate

Here's what he told Larry King: "...And as I came in [to a meeting in Sen. Daschle's office], Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon..."

So in other words they soiled themselves.

Red State, Give yourself an attaboy.
ATTABOY!


12 posted on 08/06/2004 10:07:20 AM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: Valin

You bet they soiled their Depends.

moi Kerri needs some new form fitting Depends. His butt looks like he is wearing hip pads and a butt pad in recent pictures.


13 posted on 08/06/2004 10:11:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The Franchurian Dork Candidate, moi Kerri, in his convention speech "Judge me by my record"...)
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To: Grampa Dave

Distrubing Image Alert!!!


14 posted on 08/06/2004 10:14:09 AM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: JohnHuang2

OOOooooh John, you are in rare form indeed! Excellent...


15 posted on 08/06/2004 11:46:45 AM PDT by dandelion (AKA "The Kerry Fairy" - http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: JohnHuang2

OOOooooh John, you are in rare form indeed! Excellent...


16 posted on 08/06/2004 11:46:45 AM PDT by dandelion (AKA "The Kerry Fairy" - http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: Grampa Dave; JohnHuang2; Gman; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; ...
I've studied that video of President Bush sitting in the class room as he got word of the ISLAMIC attack on the United States.

I've looked at his initial facial expressions, eye movements, hand gestures, and body language and honestly I couldn't connect with how Dubya just sat there, seemingly doing nothing.

That is until my wife, who just this week saw the replay as Bush was being attacked by J-FK for not responding in a presidential or responsible manner. Her immediate reaction - well, it stunned me.

She saw it, and upon looking at George Bush's face and eyes, instantly said of his reaction:

"He's praying . . George Bush immediately started PRAYING!"

17 posted on 08/06/2004 1:14:00 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Happy2BMe

People are obsessed with it. Obsessed! I did a Google search and found some REALLY nasty articles on it.

Here is the video:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm


18 posted on 08/06/2004 1:18:47 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Howlin; MeekOneGOP; JohnHuang2; Grampa Dave; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Smartass; devolve; ...
Blogger nails Kerry on "Had I been reading to children" claim!
 

19 posted on 08/06/2004 1:21:39 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Happy2BMe

See 17 on that thread: that's how we figured it out!


20 posted on 08/06/2004 1:22:24 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Happy2BMe; Howlin
Wouldn't the President, now knowing the situation being different from what he would have done following the classroom visit, have to wait for the Secret Service, his staff and the rest of the crew on AF-1 et. al. to make a plan and strategy? Seems to me, that instead of panic, it's more like deliberate, and controlled response once the plan was ready and the engines spooled up (so to speak).So, while waiting in a crisis, prayer is always the way to "get knowledge and wisdom" from where the best wisdom comes from. "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him." James 1:5. The President knows exactly who to contact and when and what about.
21 posted on 08/06/2004 2:56:10 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Proud member of the "Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: Happy2BMe


• John Kerry loses 1972 Congressional election

• 911/WTC

• John Kerry`s "40 Minutes"



911 WTC / Gen. George Patton:

#3 - http://pro.lookingat.us/SensitiveWar.html

911 WTC / Patsy Cline:

#2 - http://pro.lookingat.us/Leadership.html

Viet Nam / Twilight Zone:

#1 - http://pro.lookingat.us/ModelPlanes.html


22 posted on 08/06/2004 3:00:45 PM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html -- http://pro.lookingat.us/TeresaWendys.html --)
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To: Happy2BMe
Amen !!



23 posted on 08/06/2004 3:52:14 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: JohnHuang2

Any modest analysis of the things Heinz-Kerry says proves he will say anything anytime anywhere to gain power. Maybe the dummies aren't paying attention but .... you can't fool all of the people all of the time.


24 posted on 08/06/2004 4:55:33 PM PDT by mercy
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To: MeekOneGOP

That is extremly annoying.


25 posted on 08/06/2004 4:56:28 PM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
That is extremly annoying.

Caught your eye, though, didn't it? Be glad I didn't post THIS:

Click HERE to be REALLY annoyed!

See it ??? :^)


26 posted on 08/06/2004 7:26:56 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: mercy
The point being, I wanted folks to see the post I was replying to. Did you?

27 posted on 08/06/2004 7:28:34 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; JohnHuang2; Happy2BMe

28 posted on 08/06/2004 7:41:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: JohnHuang2

John Huang2 is right up there with hugh Hewitt and Marc Steyn in the column category for me. The sad thing is JH2 doesn't get paid for it. At least I don't think so...


29 posted on 08/06/2004 10:21:41 PM PDT by GeronL (geocities.com/geronl is back, or will be)
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To: JohnHuang2

Thanks for the ping. Awesome essay!


30 posted on 08/08/2004 8:31:25 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: JohnHuang2
Hello! I have read your red-hot and spot-on essays for a long time and can now say: Thank You for all you do!

Glad to be here, MOgirl
31 posted on 08/08/2004 8:39:39 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Thanks for the ping. Awesome essay!


32 posted on 08/08/2004 8:40:55 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: JohnHuang2
"...signaled his determination to fight the fall campaign on terrain that the White House has long assumed would belong to President Bush: Strength, integrity, values and the prosecution of the war on terror."

Strength: Kerry is one of the most famous of all vacillators: I voted for it before I voted against it.

Integrity: Kerry has lied repeatedly and stupidly: I was in Cambodia in Christmas 1968 because of the evil President Nixon who would take office in January of 1969.

Values: My service in Vietnam was GOOD--oops, I mean it was BAD--oops, I mean it was GOOD.

Terror: Kerry claimed to have committed war atrocities. He burned down a non-combatant village and killed their domestic animals. So I guess he'd have great insight into the terrorist mentality.
33 posted on 08/08/2004 8:51:04 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: JohnHuang2

Thanks. Great reading, esp. the "low information voter" term. I LOLed at that!


34 posted on 08/08/2004 8:55:06 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "If the Lord God is your Copilot, you need to change seats." (d,v,c))
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