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Junior Dems going after FreeRepublic and Swift Boat Veterans
Political Animal/Media Matters ^ | 8/6/04 | Kevin Drum, various

Posted on 08/06/2004 8:30:22 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

FReeper and co-author of 'Unfit for Command' Jerome R. Corsi, PhD is being attacked on WashingtonMonthly and MediaMatters.

From WashingtonMonthly:

LUNATICS?....A few misguided souls took issue with my cavalier dismissal of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth as "certifiable lunatics" yesterday. If you're one of them, I have two words for you: click here.

It turns out I was being too kind....

That leads to this MediaMatters page:

While much has been written about the identity and history of John E. O'Neill -- one of the authors of the forthcoming Regnery book Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry (whose links in the GOP go back to his days as "protégé of Nixon-era dirty trickster Charles Colson") -- little has been said about his co-author, Jerome R. Corsi, PhD.

That's followed by a list of his posts on FR, with links. The only one I looked at was taken out of context.

And, they even go into his pet names for our favorite celebrities, such as "Little Katie Communist". And?

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonmonthly.com ...


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To: lonewacko_dot_com

So much for the right of free speech!


51 posted on 08/07/2004 6:30:04 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: ladyinred

Need I remind you (not saying that you don't know already) that the easiest way to disover the "OTHER SIDE"'s true intentions is to listen to what they accuse conservatives in general of doing. They seem awfully fond of using derrogatory phrases & adjectives to describe us.


52 posted on 08/07/2004 6:31:36 AM PDT by Spacetrucker
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To: unsycophant

Thanks for the history lesson of who wasn't/isn't who they claim to be on FR.

We have a lot of old embedden trolls on FR, who work 24/7 to destroy this country. Then many are banned trolls, who resurrect themselves with new posting names.


53 posted on 08/07/2004 6:34:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Dork Candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri says, "Judge me by my record".. We will!!.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Junior Dems going after FreeRepublic and Swift Boat Veterans

A Freeper (don't remember who) once said "Freerepublic where political debate is a contact sport."
So bring it on Junior! But bring your big boy pads cause you'll need em.


54 posted on 08/07/2004 6:39:39 AM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: unsycophant

This is an excellent summary of the evicted trolls on FR and the embedden ones not evicte, yet:

"Lady Hon. LOL. Antifreeping became so mean and ugly I guess I can understand a little why the newer un-afers don't want to get caught posting there. Most probably don't want their friends to know that they are involved in such filthy behavior, and especially involved with people who file complaints against FR with everyone under the sun, or work with the opposition to help get Kerry elected because they hate FR *that much*. There are some who don't seem to think it matters, that it's all giggles and fun--and maybe it doesn't matter--but then why do they hide their FR identities? Wish I understood. :: shrug ::
It's shabby behavior to say the least.

"As President Bush said, 'You're either with us, or against us.' If it works for him, it works for me."

Besides their hatred of FR, many have been haters of the Bush Family for over a decade. They were the first to pile on GW in 2000.

The hatred of GW is a true mental disease. Out here in N California we are seeing more No Bush, Anyone but Bush, Vote No Bush type of bumper stickers. There are very few Kerry stickers on vehicles. Their entire movement overt and covert is based on hating GW.


55 posted on 08/07/2004 6:43:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Dork Candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri says, "Judge me by my record".. We will!!.)
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To: unsycophant
Backlash2" is St**e G***ert from New York, who used to be married to some actress named Felicity La Fortune-he might still be--and who has a fixation on several people from this site (most especially BobJ, who owns a large conglomerate of pizza places). You can always tell it's him because he links to Bob's posts and tries to encourage people to take Bob on and 'call his hand' or whatever. Steve used to post here years ago as "Mojo" and returned as a lady named "Hon" a few months ago. It didn't work out.

As upper midwest regional VICE president for the American Society of Steve's I've check our rolls and don't find his name. There fore he cannot be a REAL Steve.

56 posted on 08/07/2004 6:45:01 AM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

I went to that site and yes, all the FR posts by John Corsi are taken out of context, esp. the one asking "I hear Kerry is practicing Judaism. What religion exactly is he now?" This sounds sinister if one didn't know the background of the discussion, which I assume was posters questioning what flip flop Kerry was making to appeal to yet another special interest group.


57 posted on 08/07/2004 6:47:14 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: devolve

Great!

The 9110 Franchurian Dork Candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri, will handle the Islamoterrorists with sensitivity while our familes, friends and nation are destroyed.


58 posted on 08/07/2004 6:47:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Dork Candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri says, "Judge me by my record".. We will!!.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping!


59 posted on 08/07/2004 6:50:03 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Throw away the rear-view mirror.


60 posted on 08/07/2004 6:55:00 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Bahbah
Well, well, no wonder Hillary wants to get control of what goes on on the internet .....

Yep ! She's gotta put an end to that darned old Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy that keeps gettin' in her way.

FR is here and it isn't going away.

Amen!




61 posted on 08/07/2004 7:07:53 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Very interesting thread. Thanks for posting this, lonewacko_dot_com .....

Junior Dems going after FreeRepublic and Swift Boat Veterans

Thanks for the flag.

The Kerry campaign and their willing accomplices in the major media will have to pull out all stops to contain this story, and will play every bimbo eruption tactic in the book in the process.

VRWC II, coming to News Network near you.


62 posted on 08/07/2004 7:52:14 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: ladyinred

Re your post 22, all this sure makes you wonder about the collective intelligence of the American people, doesn't it? Of course, the majority, I like to think, has extremely good sense, but there is a certain large segment, centered on the left of the political spectrum, which has no idea of what's really going on and doesn't care to investigate.


63 posted on 08/07/2004 8:18:13 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: section9
Four more years, guys. Get used to it.

Amen to that ! What I keep saying !


64 posted on 08/07/2004 8:27:34 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: devolve

65 posted on 08/07/2004 8:28:10 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: unsycophant; rwfromkansas; Valin; Grampa Dave; Byron_the_Aussie; Hon
DBB got HIS information from bartcop.com, after a guy posting as 'backlash2' posted it there. As usual, it's mostly wrong, so that's why it's hilarious to read it. Those nitwits didn't bother to source most of what they were spoonfed. You have to love it.

Your unsourced, inaccuracy-laden post on similar matters there last night was pulled.

Any sources for any of that, or what you've posted on this thread?

Hon was eager to whip up some controversy regarding Kerry and VVAW, and an assassination plot that everyone denied happened.

Do your homework, this is false. Kerry's sympathic biographer, Gerald Nicosia, not only said the plot was debated, but that Kerry was present in Kansas City at the time. Nicosia produced Kerry's FBI files to prove it, and Kerry had to change his story.

There are dozens of threads at FR on the subject, as you know. Try the FR Keywords Camil, Phoenix Project, and Dark Plot, for starters.

In fact, you posted a thead at the now-defunct Edging Right Forum that was basically a favorable, on-line diary of your analyses of the Dark Plot story. "It's almost walking," IIRC, when you wondered why the major media didn't pick up the story, which they did shortly thereafter.

It was the probably-staged burglary of Kerry's FBI files from Nicosia's kitchen table last Spring that caused this story to sputter, though the suspicious burglary itself is a story that warrants further investigation.

But you know this, and you also know that Hon wasn't the only Freeper researching the story. So why are you posting falsehoods?

Oh, and rumors of what are probably interesting provenance...

.As it turned out, he was allegedly working on a book

"As it turned out" is not a turn of phrase that leads to "allegedly," in the common parlance.

As it turns out, you're posting a lot of unsourced allegations.


66 posted on 08/07/2004 8:42:59 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: MeekOneGOP
But Kerry NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED for what he is:

Kerry rally shout out: "release your records"



He and his wife like to spew out remarks to those in protest, I'd like to his watch his fumble to the above.
67 posted on 08/07/2004 8:48:55 AM PDT by califamily4W ("Mrs. Reagan supports President Bush's re-election 150 percent.")
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To: MeekOneGOP; dennisw; SJackson; B4Ranch; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
Dems "going after" FReepers, eh?

Bring 'em on - ping!

68 posted on 08/07/2004 8:55:56 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
"Perhaps they can take my post out of context. I just gave $100 to the Swift Boat Vets, and I am so proud of them."

That will be great advertising for FR when the Dem talking points use that to prove Swift Vets are being funded by the right wing extremist website, FreeRepublic.com

69 posted on 08/07/2004 9:01:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: claudiustg

"The book is currently number 1 on Amazon's hit parade."

#3 at Barnes and Nobles and its not even released yet.


70 posted on 08/07/2004 9:02:17 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com; MeekOneGOP; shaggy eel; Bob J; Jim Robinson; DoughtyOne; JohnHuang2; Mia T; ...

<< I support these SwiftVets. I'm sure the DemocRATS will play this as part of the VRWC at play again. >>

I doubt I have ever seen a group of men anywhere on Earth who've impressed me more that have these modest and unassuming American Men.

What a devastating bunch of dolls!

And I forgot to mention that I believe the point moot that I was making about the importance of not being hoodwinked as were we all -- and as was Congress -- in the case of the Lewis-leaked Lewinsky blue-dress red herring. [Pretty neat mixed-up metaphors, eh?]

No matter how successfully his Barney-Frank-in-Y-fronts-Anne-Lewis-led gang divert US from the truly-treasoous thirty-five years and into the sixteen-weeks-in-Vietnam tar-baby, Kerry is ten percentage points toast.

But so was Clinton before the same gang threw the Lewinsky tar-baby at us eight years ago.

And we need to not lose sight of that fact -- nor also of Kerry's whole resumé!

This is my life-time's most important election.

And I'll be home to stuff envelopes before the end of this month.

Blessings -- Brian

BUMPping


71 posted on 08/07/2004 9:17:40 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a hyphenated American -- An AMERICAN-American -- and A Dollar-a-Day FReeper!)
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To: Brian Allen

Great! Let us know when.


72 posted on 08/07/2004 9:23:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Sabertooth
My pleasure, thanks.

73 posted on 08/07/2004 9:36:19 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Brian Allen
bump!

74 posted on 08/07/2004 9:37:59 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
junior dems, is that kind of like a Stalin Youth League?

Yes, otherwise known as the "Young Pioneers".

75 posted on 08/07/2004 9:40:33 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Designate - Infiltrate - Annihilate // Read my lips: More new taxes - John Kerry)
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To: Just mythoughts; ladyinred

<< It is called public education. Personally living through the Clintons administration was quite instructive to the method of operation .... lies and deception followed with lying accusations. >>

That it is called "public 'education'" is in itself an education.

For it is not "public" and most certainly is not "education!"

But is rather government indoctrination [Brainwashing and mis-and-dis-information] and is -- as are, post the almost eight decades the "DemocRATS" and their activist operatives have owned operated and controlled the machinery of our every level of government and all of its mobbed-up unions -- directly run from and by the DNC.

Around fifty percent of the delegates to last week's DNC circus were members of the NEA and of its affiliated and associated unions.

And we call the theater of their second most-evil assault upon our beloved FRaternal republic "Public Education."

I guess we's dah ones needin' edjakatin', eh?

blessings -- Brian


76 posted on 08/07/2004 9:42:34 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a hyphenated American -- An AMERICAN-American -- and A Dollar-a-Day FReeper!)
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To: DoughtyOne

<< Great! Let us know when. >>

Surely will -- getting excited!

Blessings -- Brian


77 posted on 08/07/2004 9:43:57 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a hyphenated American -- An AMERICAN-American -- and A Dollar-a-Day FReeper!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

The answers are mundane and lack credible documentation to refute the info posted on Freerepublic.

Sounds more like Al gore is the coach of these misfits.
OPs4 God Bless America!


78 posted on 08/07/2004 9:48:56 AM PDT by OPS4
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

HA!!

I got more money in my pocket than the value of all of Salon.Com's outstanding shares of stock are worth.

Uh..oh, guess that makes me a target of Kerry's new tax policy. Seeing as I ACTUALLY have money in my pocket, it must be taxed.


79 posted on 08/07/2004 9:53:25 AM PDT by Stag (Gosh I'm grouchy on Monday mornings)
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To: Happy2BMe; Admin Moderator

Why is this posted under News/Activism when it should be under Humor.


80 posted on 08/07/2004 9:53:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (----http://www.firearmsid.com/----"Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.")
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To: unsycophant; Lead Moderator

You are posting outrageous lies--libels.

I know Tom Lipscomb personally. He does not employ Mojo or anyone. He is not writing a book about the Swiftees, nor has he any plans to.

Mojo/Hon was not Backlash2 at Bart.com as any search of Backlash2's posts will readily reveal. Hon exposed the truth about the Bush AWOL lie. Backlash2 promulgated that lie.

You are a liar and you should be banned from this site for knowingly spreading lies about people who cannot defend themselves. It is clear you are nursing a sick grudge against these people.

The administrators owe it to Lipscomb, who is a professional journalist with a reputation to protect, to remove your lies and punish you and the others who are spreading them.


81 posted on 08/07/2004 10:03:38 AM PDT by Philistine
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To: Philistine

Your little antifreeping sideshow is simply an unneeded distraction. Post 18 removed. Philistine aka Lick Spittle, Mojo, et al, banned again.


82 posted on 08/07/2004 10:23:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
"It is clear you are nursing a sick grudge against these people. "

This has got to be the funniest and most ironic statement mojo has ever posted! Mojo, feel thyself!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

83 posted on 08/07/2004 10:27:41 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Happy2BMe; califamily4W
Re #67-68:


84 posted on 08/07/2004 10:40:09 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Rebelbase

You are right, that is a consideration.


85 posted on 08/07/2004 10:43:45 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he used to be a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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To: claudiustg

Right. That's great. What's even more powerful IMO though is to listen to an eyewitness - in this case multiple eyewitnesses - via a free medium - television. Its the Abu Garib syndrome where visual pictures are 100 times more powerful than the printed word. Many undecideds may happen to stumble on an interview with one of these guys. That's more effective than just hoping they go out and buy a book.


86 posted on 08/07/2004 11:27:38 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Philistine

Mojo, you are an out-of-control psychopath. I'm glad you live in a city that severely restricts gun ownership, because stone-cold-crazies like you have NO need for a firearm.


87 posted on 08/07/2004 11:28:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Bob J
This has got to be the funniest and most ironic statement mojo has ever posted! Mojo, feel thyself!

This is not especially funny or ironic. Mojo routinely accuses others of what he is deeply embroiled in. In the middle of a very intricate internet stalking of someone, he'll claim the victim stalked him. During a time in 2001 in which he was accusing me of being vulgar, I collected a portfolio of over 100 outragrously vulger comments he authored.

If he's complaining about being libeled, I wonder who he's libeling now. He operates by Democrat Party tactics: Accuse 'em of what you are doin'.

88 posted on 08/07/2004 11:31:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Happy2BMe
Dems "going after" FReepers, eh?
Bring 'em on - ping!

Uh, that could get a little dangerous. Don't the Dems know that most FReepers are armed and dangerous and that more than a few are active or retired military? We may be "Compassionate Conservatives", but we're not without teeth and claws...

89 posted on 08/07/2004 11:45:16 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (Proud member of the "Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

I read the posts on the rant and they seem OK to me.

I would be proud if I was quoted that way.

Corsi (is that you?) is 100% correct in every post.

And if anyone needs more, bookmark, memorize and disseminate the Most Important FR Thread Ever: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117749/posts (The Agenda of Islam - A War Between Civilizations (cease-fire tactic) )


90 posted on 08/07/2004 11:57:15 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: rwfromkansas

Woa!

You angered the AM Gods!

What was in #11?


91 posted on 08/07/2004 11:58:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: plain talk

---Many undecideds may happen to stumble on an interview with one of these guys. That's more effective than just hoping they go out and buy a book---

Very true, but if the book sales remain at the top of the charts the vets will be pretty hard to ignore, and the money from the sales will fund further ads.


92 posted on 08/07/2004 12:03:22 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

I missed you, Doc. Glad you're finally back.


93 posted on 08/07/2004 12:07:00 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Grampa Dave
It's more personal though too. It's a hatred of Jim and of FR also, and anyone who does not fall into lockstep. Jim=GW, we = rightwing extremists.

The worst is knowing that they use our sites against us.

94 posted on 08/07/2004 12:08:57 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: claudiustg

Books are nothing compared to images and audio, e.g. Abu Garib. As long as it is just a book out there this story goes nowhere. To have legs the eyewitnesses must get audio/visual exposure nationally on TV. Even then it may go nowhere as was seen with the Clinton debacle.


95 posted on 08/07/2004 12:11:27 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Regardless of who is or is not a looney, this whole issue would go away for Kerry if he would RELEASE ALL OF HIS MILITARY AND MEDICAL RECORDS.

While he's at it, Teresa's tax returns would clear up a lot of things.


DITTO! HEY KERRY, WHAT ARE YOU HIDING? RELEASE YOUR MILITARY RECORDS AND TERAYZA'S TAX RETURNS. OTHERWISE, YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THIS IN THE DEBATES!!!

When debating Kerry, GWB should be straight forward and say that Kerry needs to release everything like HE did so the people can decide.


96 posted on 08/07/2004 12:15:25 PM PDT by demkicker
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To: freedumb2003

That person alleged Hon, a FR poster who talked about Kerry a lot earlier this year, was also a Dem operative.

Well, I accepted it in my post there and said thanks to that poster for bringing up the info.

Based on what I am hearing from others, I believe that is a lie; Hon was not some operative.

Her info checked out concerning Kerry's meeting the Viet Cong in Paris.

I still wonder why she was banned earlier in the year.


97 posted on 08/07/2004 12:20:50 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

I did a little digging. Went to google a using a phrase from "Media Matters"..."Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope "

And came up with this
To: HAL9000
Maybe while he's there he can tell the UN what he's going to do about the sexual crimes committed by "priests" in his "Church" during his tenure. Or, maybe that's the connection -- boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press.

16 posted on 03/03/2003 3:46:01 AM PST by jrlc
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:AilIntCjdwkJ:209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/855642/posts+%22Boy+buggering+in+both+Islam+and+Catholicism+is+okay+with+the+Pope+%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


98 posted on 08/07/2004 1:34:28 PM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: Ciexyz

Several points.

First, Thomas Lipscomb is an honest reporter who did a fine jub uncovering John Kerry's participation in the VVAW assassination plot. I suspect he will yet have more strong contributions to the developing story. Tom, I hope your health improves and that you will be well in the coming months.

Second, the politically incorrect humor I posted on this site is evidently not funny to everyone. Detractors should have interviewed my dog. No matter how I frame a comment, "Chico" has yet to laugh.

Finally, we all owe a huge salute to a great American patriot, Jim Robinson. Free Republic is a ground breaking forum, which allows us the free and robust expression of conservative political ideas.

I am honored to be associated with Free Republic, as I am honored to be participating in bringing the case against John Kerry as co-author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND.

"jrlc" on Free Republic
Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D.


99 posted on 08/07/2004 1:48:00 PM PDT by jrlc
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100 posted on 08/07/2004 1:50:28 PM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html -- http://pro.lookingat.us/TeresaWendys.html --)
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