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Arizona congressman doesn't find anti-Kerry ads inappropriate
KVOA Tuscon Eyewitness News 4 ^ | August 7, 2004

Posted on 08/07/2004 12:57:55 PM PDT by dano1

U.S. Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz., said he doesn't find ads accusing Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry of lying about his military service inappropriate.

"If Senator Kerry can trot out his people on stage that he served with to use as an endorsement of his military service, then it's not inappropriate for others who also served with him to question whether his service is all it's made up to be," Kolbe said Friday.

Kolbe said he got to know Kerry during his year as a naval communications officer and later as an operations officer in Vietnam.

The 60-second ad is scheduled to air in a few markets in Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

It was paid for by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, an advocacy group made up of former military officers and enlisted men who served in Vietnam on Navy Swift boats or in affiliated commands.

(Excerpt) Read more at kvoa.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; kolb; kolbe; swiftboat; vietnam
"A lot of people took umbrage to that," Kolbe said. "And I remember my own feeling at that time, feeling a little bit of outrage, a little bit of hurt, and feeling tarnished by someone I served with who basically took a broad brush and said, `We're all war criminals.'"
1 posted on 08/07/2004 12:57:55 PM PDT by dano1
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To: dano1
*Bump*

If elected Federal representative talk about this, it will stay in the news cycle. I'd hope for an accurate airing by the news media, but that is beyond their ability and/or demeanor.

2 posted on 08/07/2004 12:59:34 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: dano1

Wow. Kolbe is, by far, the most liberal of the AZ pubbies. I never would have expected him to make a statement like this. Kerry's war crime allegations must have really rubbed Kolbe the wrong way.


3 posted on 08/07/2004 1:02:23 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: dano1
It seems inconsistent to skewer President Bush based on the fabricated theory that he may have missed duty some weekend duty from his six-year National Guard Duty - completely without any evidence or facts,

and then at the same time to say that Kerry's record in Vietnam is isn't even appropriate for discussion by those who served alongside him.

The Democrats have to decide which rules of protocal for the debate are correct, and follow them.

4 posted on 08/07/2004 1:02:33 PM PDT by dano1
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To: dano1
Kerry opened a lot of old wounds with his act at the Convention.

I will do whatever I can to let these vets' voices be heard. My wife is already mad that I sent them money.

I have a feeling this thing is going to snowball. Someone will start asking Kerry about the specifics of his service and his anti-war actions afterward, won't they? I've never seen a candidate get such a pass. He's had ONE difficult interview with ABC, and Russert stumped him as well but was generally too easy with him.
5 posted on 08/07/2004 1:03:06 PM PDT by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: dano1
The Democrats have to decide which rules of protocal for the debate are correct, and follow them.

No, the DEMs don't choose protocol. It is simply proper to point out that the DEMs are void of protocol, that they have no moral or ethical boundary to their conduct.

If the people vote for that, well, crap.

6 posted on 08/07/2004 1:08:20 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: dano1
The Democrats have to decide which rules of protocal for the debate are correct, and follow them.

Who gave the Democrats this power?

7 posted on 08/07/2004 1:10:31 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: Carling
Someone will start asking Kerry about the specifics of his service and his anti-war actions afterward,

Kerry opened this Pandora's box by promoting the unfounded allegations about W missing weekend National Guard Service.

8 posted on 08/07/2004 1:12:01 PM PDT by dano1
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To: dano1

When is McCain up for re-election??

Until this week, I could tolerate him, knowing he was a Repub.

After hearing him try and stop fellow Vietnam veterans from exercising their First Amendment right, I would move to Arizona just to vote against him.

McCain makes me ill.


9 posted on 08/07/2004 1:12:18 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: gilliam
Who gave the Democrats this power?

I just mean that there shouldn't be one set of rules for the Democrats and another set of rules for the Republicans.

10 posted on 08/07/2004 1:13:07 PM PDT by dano1
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To: dano1

Will this story fade as fast as Sandy Berger and his theft of documents? We hear nothing of that now, but the Shelby allegations are still being talked about. I hope this will not be quickly buried like so much else about Kerry and other Democrats.


11 posted on 08/07/2004 1:17:44 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: dano1
IMHO, when Kerry stood up there during the Democratic convention and pretended to be a hero of the Vietnam war, he threw the rule book away.
12 posted on 08/07/2004 1:21:01 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: BonnieJ
Will this story fade as fast as Sandy Berger and his theft of documents?

Only if you and I let it!

13 posted on 08/07/2004 1:21:33 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: dano1

IMHO the testimony about war crimes that Kerry and others did is what is going to keep coming back at him. (Assuming that Kerry lied about this.)


14 posted on 08/07/2004 1:34:52 PM PDT by tkathy (The choice is clear. Big tent or no tent.)
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To: tkathy
(Assuming that Kerry lied about this.)

He's a politician of the worst sort. 'nough said.

15 posted on 08/07/2004 1:38:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: dano1

Excellent. Kolbe is my rep and I'm pleased to see him say this.

I'll add that McCain made his (idiotic) statement two days ago, now. I and others called his office to protest.


16 posted on 08/07/2004 1:42:21 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: gilliam
Only if you and I let it!

Right you are. If Kerry survives this assault of truth he will be unstopable. That which doesn't kill his chances only makes him sronger. Remember how the "intern trouble" faded and made him stronger. When one sets out to kill the king one dare not miss or retreat.

17 posted on 08/07/2004 1:44:21 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: dano1

BTTT


18 posted on 08/07/2004 1:44:47 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: dano1

Hmm. I bet Kolbe has some dirt on Kerry.


19 posted on 08/07/2004 1:45:32 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - you've been warned.)
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To: dano1
It seems inconsistent to skewer President Bush based on the fabricated theory that he may have missed duty some weekend duty from his six-year National Guard Duty - completely without any evidence or facts,and then at the same time to say that Kerry's record in Vietnam is isn't even appropriate for discussion by those who served alongside him.

Plus Kerry is making his service the main reason he says people should vote for him AND uses a picture that includes some of these men in his campaign ads. A picture they have asked for some time now that the campaign cease and desist from using.

You are correct that the hammering Bush took over speculative charges on his service set the stage for this Kerry saga to be thoroughly vetted. And unfortunately for Kerry, there seems to be reason, unlike with Bush, to really question his history in this area.

20 posted on 08/07/2004 1:48:12 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: RatSlayer
"Wow. Kolbe is, by far, the most liberal of the AZ pubbies"

And yet McCain, just before he was scheduled to spend a few days making campaign appearances with Bush, feels the need to attack the ad in the strongest terms possible.

Something not right about McCain. It's like he wants to be a major player - anyway he can.

Are the Pubs really better-off with him? I'm not so sure. I wish he would go ahead and switch to the Dems already - let them deal with him - and him with them.

21 posted on 08/07/2004 1:49:29 PM PDT by wasnova
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To: BonnieJ
Will this story fade as fast as Sandy Berger and his theft of documents? We hear nothing of that now,

Waxman is trying to stop the Congressional hearing on Berger from proceeding saying there's an ongoing DOJ investigation. Can't have Congress asking questions that the public may hear, can we? Unfortunately for Waxman and his ilk, the DOJ said people are free to testify before the committee.

It's out there.

22 posted on 08/07/2004 1:50:50 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: dano1
Jim Kolbe said that? My respect for him goes up a bit here. I never expected him to say it.

I thought for sure it would be JD Heyworth

23 posted on 08/07/2004 1:51:22 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry." - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth)
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To: BonnieJ

As to Shelby, I hear nobody talking about that one.


24 posted on 08/07/2004 1:51:35 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: dano1
It seems inconsistent to skewer President Bush based on the fabricated theory that he may have missed duty some weekend duty from his six-year National Guard Duty - completely without any evidence or facts,

If you can believe the AP, we've just seen the beginning of Bush bashing. Check out A bevy of books on Bush due in bookstores before balloting, which says, "dozens of new books criticizing President George W. Bush are about to flood US bookstores."
25 posted on 08/07/2004 1:55:40 PM PDT by pt17
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To: MojoWire
McCain is up for re-election this year. I lost the ability to tolerate him years ago; but his bogus McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform was the last straw for me. Taking away first amendment rights while not providing for more transparency in where money is coming from is more than I could stomach.

I think this is where McCain is coming from, again showing his lack of good judgment regarding what is right or true:

March 18, 2004

McCain won't join in GOP criticism of Kerry

Mike Sunnucks -- The Business Journal

Arizona Sen. John McCain Thursday said he would not join in Republican criticisms of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry. …

McCain said he is pleased to co-chair President George W. Bush's Arizona re-election effort with fellow GOP Sen. Jon Kyl but he won't attack Kerry.

"John Kerry is a friend of mine therefore I don't wish to criticize him," McCain told reporters at the Arizona State Capitol....

Apparently President Bush isn't a friend of McCain's since McCain is more than happy to criticize him.

26 posted on 08/07/2004 2:03:09 PM PDT by SheRebel
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To: dano1

McCain = Slimy


27 posted on 08/07/2004 2:05:22 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Carling

We all need to chant at every Kerry Rally

Hey, Hey
Ho, Ho
Johnny sign,
the Form,
ONE EIGHT OH!

Maybe then enough pressure will be put on him to do what he and all the DIMs fears doing the most. Having his own records prove the Swifties 100% right.


28 posted on 08/07/2004 2:08:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: what's up
McCain is not right and that is in any of the meanings of RIGHT. He left that part of his self in a foreign gulag, methinks.
29 posted on 08/07/2004 2:15:18 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: dano1

Kolbe is usually like McCain and that's why the press contacted him. He's usually good for a few shots at his own people. He's a big time lib.

Trouble is, Randy Graf has him running scared. Graf is a genuine conservative, and is taking on Kolbe in the primary. Now Kolbe is flooding my house with mailers that try to link himself to Bush, even saying "Hi neighbor, I'm so glad to represent you." It's putrid and pathetic, coming from this pink rino. He usually thumbs his nose at us and does whatever he wants, just like McCain. And the Crats are so delighted they don't run anybody against him.

Vote for Randy Graf, people. Let's get rid of at least one of our stinkers here in AZ this year.


30 posted on 08/07/2004 2:16:58 PM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful)
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To: wasnova

McCain has always been a hothead that holds a grudge and he just can't get over being beaten by Bush.

A couple of years ago it got so bad that a bunch of top McCain staffers threatened to resign if he didn't cool it.

The only reason we are currently better off with McCain is because we need his seat for a majority in the senate. If we can ever gain a few more seats, we would be better off dumping him.

McCain will never switch on his own. He knows he has more chances to get on TV when he can be used as a propaganda tool by left-wing media. He wouldn't be as valuable to them as just another democrat.


31 posted on 08/07/2004 3:13:03 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: RatSlayer

"DITTO" Who would have thought Kolbe would be on this side? I am amazed and happy to see this.


32 posted on 08/07/2004 3:52:06 PM PDT by az wildkitten
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To: SheRebel

This year the wife and I will split the ticket and vote against McCain. He will win, but it will be without us.


33 posted on 08/07/2004 4:07:23 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: dano1

Bump!!!


34 posted on 08/07/2004 4:09:00 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: dano1
"If Senator Kerry can trot out his people on stage that he served with to use as an endorsement of his military service, then it's not inappropriate for others who also served with him to question whether his service is all it's made up to be," Kolbe said Friday.

BINGO

35 posted on 08/07/2004 4:16:20 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: dano1
"If Senator Kerry can trot out his people on stage that he served with to use as an endorsement of his military service, then it's not inappropriate for others who also served with him to question whether his service is all it's made up to be," Kolbe said Friday...well said - although he should have added that those "others who served with him" were his superior officers who were in a unique position to oversee Kerry's performance and in fact were required to evaluate and rate that performance as part of their duties.........
36 posted on 08/07/2004 6:29:40 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: dano1
It seems inconsistent to skewer President Bush based on the fabricated theory that he may have missed duty some weekend duty from his six-year National Guard Duty - completely without any evidence or facts,

Just because 95% of the Stone-age press is going to vote for Kerry, doesn't mean they can't be objective!!

Pray for W and Our Troops

37 posted on 08/07/2004 6:32:29 PM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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