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Posted on 08/07/2004 8:15:36 PM PDT by madisonjr

The following was posted on swiftvets.com. Please consider its contents and act as you see fit. Folks, these guys need your help...don't let them down.

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Vets, PLEASE don't back down!

Words are inadequate to express how much I and thousands of others around the country appreciate what you all are doing. Those who maintain this site, worked on the book, are doing interviews, did the ads, all have contributed in this "war" for the truth. Just as in the physical military we need army, navy, air force and marines, in the war of information some provide "air cover" by doing on-air media interviews, some are "ground troops" by doing public appearances, etc., but every aspect is important and beneficial.

My main word of encouragement is to remind you that your being "under fire" as you are now will not last forever. However the election turns out, in three months those who have chosen to attack you will no longer have the motivation to continue, and you will be able to get back to your (hopefully happy) lives. But as you all know, sometimes events require that men of unique qualities rise up and be willing to do things that only they can do.

Those of you who served with Kerry are the only ones who have the first hand experiences necessary to refute the propaganda being put out by his campaign. You are our "special ops". No one else has the special skills you have to blow the strategic targets in this war. I know this seems like a great burden, but I make you this pledge.

If you commit to staying the course in this war, I and thousands of others like me will not abandon you as we shamefully did thirty years ago. I know this brings up old wounds psychologically, but maybe this is a way for all of us to heal: healing you by seeing the thousands of Americans that really do support you; and healing us by giving us an opportunity to correct the negligence and apathy we showed when you needed us most.

We are all really blessed in a way. Many times in life we make mistakes and never have an opportunity to make restitution to the ones we hurt. We have to carry the burden of the damage we did for the rest of our lives, as do the victims. But God is above all merciful, and we have been given a rare chance to do the right thing now, and in some small way make amends for the sins of the past.

The core of the people who founded this country signed on to a statement of principle over two hundred years ago. It said "with a firm reliance on the protection of the Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor". Every election is a "Declaration of Independence", a Revolutionary War, an opportunity to re-establish the principle that the purpose of government is to preserve our rights, not control our lives. Every past generation has borne the burden of doing what was necessary to maintain the freedoms those first patriots won. And fortunately for us, they heeded the call and met the challenge.

So now it's our turn. In some ways, the American people don't even have the right to ask these vets to sacrifice at all. They already did it once, and we turned our backs on them. It would serve us right if they just said, "Forget you, we put our tails on the line, and you abandoned us". But these heroes have already shown they are better men than we. They led by example, did all the background work necessary to get their information out, and have now begun to make themselves public targets by their visibility. Not for fame or money, because from my experience I know this will cost them more in time, money, reputation and every other resource than they will ever recoup. No, they are doing it for one reason, and one reason only: because it is right. And we have NO RIGHT to stand idly by while these men absorb the fire being generated by their actions. We must be willing to do whatever is necessary to provide cover, diversions, resources, strategies, whatever is needed, until they are able to complete their mission successfully.

I encourage everyone who reads this to do whatever you can to help. Contribute financially, help organize state by state, post ideas to this forum, contact them and offer to help in your area. Vets, please let us know what you need. Post your needs on this forum, create an email list for emergency notices, whatever would help.

Finally, and probably most importantly, don't forget about Divine Providence. If the founders had a "firm reliance" on it, we need it no less. Pray for these men, for their protection, for wisdom, and for the resources we need to win this fight. The Creator who gave you your rights wants you to keep them. All He asks is that you look to Him. So Praise the Lord...

...and Pass the Ammunition.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; soliciting; swiftboatveterans
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1 posted on 08/07/2004 8:15:37 PM PDT by madisonjr
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To: madisonjr

Everyone of FR should donate at least $10 to the Swiftvets. They put their necks on the line for their country....AGAIN. I think we should show our support.


2 posted on 08/07/2004 8:17:50 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: Hildy

Done.


3 posted on 08/07/2004 8:20:22 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: tomahawk

I agree and did already. Thanks for what you are doing.


4 posted on 08/07/2004 8:21:43 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Hildy

OK Vets. They kept us from doing our jobs 30+ years ago. Now we are free to do what we know we must. If you can afford a few bucks, please do. But regardless, register on that site.


5 posted on 08/07/2004 8:23:05 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (So many questions - so few answers)
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To: madisonjr
Thank you, and them, for all your work and all your service. I believe that this effort will be the turning point in the self-destruction of the Kerry Campaign.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Says the Wuss: Ma, He's Touching Me"

If you haven't already joined the anti-CFR effort, please click here.

6 posted on 08/07/2004 8:25:49 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: ProudVet77; All

Just sent them $25. I truly believe it's the least we can do.


7 posted on 08/07/2004 8:27:28 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: madisonjr

Done


8 posted on 08/07/2004 8:29:59 PM PDT by Vision (www.MarylandBowhunter.com)
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To: madisonjr

Done.


9 posted on 08/07/2004 8:32:42 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Proud to be a member here.


10 posted on 08/07/2004 8:34:01 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (So many questions - so few answers)
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To: madisonjr

Buy the book! Buy multiple copies if necessary and pass them around!


11 posted on 08/07/2004 8:34:41 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: madisonjr

Bought the book, sent some dollars - am awaiting further orders (or ideas).....


12 posted on 08/07/2004 8:36:49 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Hildy

I rec'd two e-mails tonight informing me that the Kerry people are sending out an e-mail threatening to release the names and e-mail addresses of the Swift Vote Vets and the Viet Nam Vets who are telling the truth about Kerry. swiftboatvetsareliars@yahoo.com. They are too cowardly to identify themselves. They are calling us "pathological liars", "right-wing nut jobs", etc. And those are the nicer names they are calling us.
I'm tellin' ya. The Dems are determined to win this election on Nov. 2. They are psychos going ballistic. We better tighten our seatbelts; it's gonna be a rough ride.


13 posted on 08/07/2004 8:39:03 PM PDT by no dems (Ignorance is "bliss"; and every Democrat I know is "bliss-tered".)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Just a thought. They have chat forums on shiftvets.com
Some of these guys are getting blasted in the media. Let's make sure they know they are not alone.


14 posted on 08/07/2004 8:39:18 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (So many questions - so few answers)
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To: madisonjr

Are part of the proceds from the Book going to the effort? I already pre-ordered two copies. One is going to stay in Afghanistan.


15 posted on 08/07/2004 8:40:25 PM PDT by armymarinemom (Ultimate Flip Flop->I support the Troops but not their mission)
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To: no dems

I know, we all must be active. These guys have to know that we're out here supporting them.


16 posted on 08/07/2004 8:40:41 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: no dems
...threatening to release the names and e-mail addresses of the Swift Vote Vets... OOPS! That is Swift BOAT Vets. Sorry, I'm so pissed, I can't think or type.
17 posted on 08/07/2004 8:40:58 PM PDT by no dems (Ignorance is "bliss"; and every Democrat I know is "bliss-tered".)
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To: veronica; onyx; SoCalPol; Warrant; sd-joe; Travis McGee; doodlelady

Want you guys to see this thread. These patriots need all the help they can get.


18 posted on 08/07/2004 8:42:22 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: madisonjr

BTTT


19 posted on 08/07/2004 8:42:27 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: no dems

Their names are already released, aren't they?


20 posted on 08/07/2004 8:42:56 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: no dems

As a point of clarification: swiftboatvetsareliars@yahoo.com is the e-mail address the threatening e-mails are sent out under.


21 posted on 08/07/2004 8:43:08 PM PDT by no dems (Ignorance is "bliss"; and every Democrat I know is "bliss-tered".)
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To: no dems

They do it in secret with threats and intimidation.
This has broken out big time, and when the vets show up on television next week and hold up the threatening emails and point it to the Democratic party, their will be an explosion in this country like nobody's business.
The Dems are hoping to silence the Vets like they did all of Clinton's women, but the Vets aren't chicks - they're Warriors, and the Dems don't know what they are getting themselves into.


22 posted on 08/07/2004 8:43:55 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: no dems

if you start getting email from the bad guys:

abuse@yahoo.com


23 posted on 08/07/2004 8:47:16 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (So many questions - so few answers)
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To: Hildy

I had already donated $100 to them.
Then husband saw their ad and said
give 'em another $100, and of course
I did!

BobJ had a thread going just for that purpose.


24 posted on 08/07/2004 8:48:12 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: onyx

Hey there! What's going on?


25 posted on 08/07/2004 8:48:42 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: Hildy

You bet!!!


26 posted on 08/07/2004 8:50:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: ProudVet77

Thanks. I'll let the Swift Boat Vets know this RIGHT NOW!
Thanks again.


27 posted on 08/07/2004 8:51:47 PM PDT by no dems (Ignorance is "bliss"; and every Democrat I know is "bliss-tered".)
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To: Hildy

Not a whole lot.
I pinged you to our RWR Library thread.
Have you seen Doughty1's pics?


28 posted on 08/07/2004 8:52:04 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: mabelkitty
This has broken out big time, and when the vets show up on television next week and hold up the threatening emails and point it to the Democratic party, their will be an explosion in this country like nobody's business. From your lips to God's ears.
29 posted on 08/07/2004 8:53:39 PM PDT by no dems (Ignorance is "bliss"; and every Democrat I know is "bliss-tered".)
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To: madisonjr
I second that emotion!

Donated a couple days ago.

30 posted on 08/07/2004 8:55:01 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Hildy

Thanks...will do


31 posted on 08/07/2004 8:58:06 PM PDT by b9 (If you're gonna cut the mustard, you've gotta ketchup.....wketchup.com)
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To: onyx
Our snail mail letter sent yesterday:

Dear SwiftBoat Vets:

We do so admire your courage and resolve in setting John Kerry’s military record straight. My husband John, who rarely gets emotional, watched your ad and read the Drudge excerpts and immediately barked out an order to me: get out the checkbook and send these guys 100 bucks. Right. Now. Usually I don’t respond well to orders, but since I wholeheartedly agreed with him, I immediately and enthusiastically complied.

We are counting on you guys to stay the course. We know the daggers are coming out. It’s unjust and disgusting that you have to take the abuse, but there it is. I heard one of you say something to the effect: We decided our country was calling us to serve a second time... and indeed that is the case. For none of us out here in flyover country has the standing or personal experience with the loathsome John Kerry to take him on toe to toe. He must be stopped, as every rational person can see. I think in these times, he is a more dangerous man than Bill Clinton. He lies more frequently -- though less expertly -- than Clinton. His lust for power is boundless and truly frightening. He was an empty suit in the Senate for decades, and now he dares to trade on a Hollywood version of his military service over 30 years ago. The few perceptible views Kerry holds seem to involve France and the U.N., two of the most corrupt, most anti-American and anti-Israeli bodies on the planet today. I guess it’s hard to break the old habit of consorting with the enemy.

All we, and you, can do is stick to the truth, tighten our seatbelts, and pray that God will open the eyes of the blind and keep our great nation safe... for a little while longer. The hard part is imagining the what if... the election doesn’t go our way. I do not have any helpful tips for that event. So the best course is to avoid catastrophe and WIN, DAMMIT!

We thank you again for your tremendous efforts, and your sacrifice -- then and now. We support you all the way and we’ll continue doing everything we can to spread the word. May God bless you all and keep you strong and safe through this storm.

Sally and John in Birmingham, AL

32 posted on 08/07/2004 9:02:08 PM PDT by Sally
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To: madisonjr; Grampa Dave; ALOHA RONNIE; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; colorado tanker; potlatch; ...
Just registered and awaiting administrator activation.
33 posted on 08/07/2004 9:03:08 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: madisonjr

What is the web address for the collection plate?


34 posted on 08/07/2004 9:03:14 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: Sally


That is one beautiful letter Sally.


35 posted on 08/07/2004 9:07:23 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: ProudVet77
Some of these guys are getting blasted in the media. Let's make sure they know they are not alone...at times like this, money speaks louder than words, IMO.......
36 posted on 08/07/2004 9:09:52 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Hildy

Sent a check a day or two ago.

I'm sorry so many people are being so nasty about this....(shaking head).....hang in there, guys.

Let the Truth come into the light.


37 posted on 08/07/2004 9:15:38 PM PDT by BizzeeMom ("We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love" Bl. Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Hildy

You better believe these vets. are doing their job very
well and hitting a nerve or they wouldn't be receiving all this flack.
I sent for the book and will be glad to help further.

My dad won the purple heart the hard way in Korea.
as a HM1 with the 1st Marines.

Kerry and his 4 month movie making farce is scum.


38 posted on 08/07/2004 9:15:57 PM PDT by SoCalPol (FLUSH THE JOHNS '04)
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To: no dems

Threats sent out via a yahoo account is a violation of their agreement with Yahoo. You should complain to:
http://abuse.yahoo.com/

I am willing to bet it is some high school kid.


39 posted on 08/07/2004 9:17:06 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

I was given just abuse@yahoo.com in an earlier response post. So, I sent e-mails to that address as did others.
Hope it's not an oops.


40 posted on 08/07/2004 9:25:15 PM PDT by no dems (Ignorance is "bliss"; and every Democrat I know is "bliss-tered".)
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To: All

John Kerry : "war hero" or a "war criminal"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186991/posts


41 posted on 08/07/2004 9:39:55 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It only takes one idiot to raze a village.)
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To: no dems

shouldn't be an ooops....
a straight email address lets you use your email client.
and Http tends to be a form that you fill out, much like you do here on FR.
When I write to my local TV stations they force me to use a form, which makes it hard to cut and paste sometimes. Fortunately one of the stations is dumb enough that after youy send the form it says "Message sent to xxxxx@yyyy.com" so now I just send mail directly.
I sent them an email. If someone wants to use the http please do and we can compare notes about responses.


42 posted on 08/07/2004 9:41:31 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (So many questions - so few answers)
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To: no dems

That should work fine.


43 posted on 08/07/2004 10:01:54 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

I donated a Hun. Come on guys, dig deep, these guys deserve all the help we can give.


44 posted on 08/07/2004 10:07:19 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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45 posted on 08/07/2004 10:11:17 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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To: Hildy

Done. Thank you for the suggestion.


46 posted on 08/07/2004 10:13:36 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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47 posted on 08/07/2004 10:14:39 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

48 posted on 08/07/2004 10:16:16 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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To: BJungNan
What is the web address for the collection plate?

SwiftVets Collection Plate.

49 posted on 08/07/2004 10:17:49 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

50 posted on 08/07/2004 10:18:06 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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