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Union County shelter director fired after family pet killed
AP ^ | 8/5

Posted on 08/07/2004 10:00:47 PM PDT by ambrose

Union County shelter director fired after family pet killed

8/5/2004 10:13 AM

By: Associated Press

(MONROE) - The acting manager of the Union County animal shelter has been fired after a family pet was killed by accident.

A swell of phone calls from animal lovers prompted the county health director to fire Maggie Nelson this week, instead of just suspending her without pay.

Health director Lorey White says Nelson didn't follow procedures that would have possibly avoided the death of a golden retriever named Sunny.

The dog was put down last week despite wearing an identification tag listing the owners' address and phone number. Paperwork also showed that her owners would pick her up.

The dog had been in the shelter's custody less than 24 hours. State law requires shelters to keep animals for 72 hours before they can destroy them.

The dog's owner says they arrived to find the dog had been put to death. The owner says Nelson sincerely apologized and her remorse was genuine.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dog; genuineremorseidoubt; howstupidcanyoube; sunny

1 posted on 08/07/2004 10:00:47 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: HairOfTheDog

ping.


2 posted on 08/07/2004 10:02:04 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Ping


3 posted on 08/07/2004 10:08:16 PM PDT by Torie
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To: ambrose
her remorse was genuine

Oh, that's OK then.

(Bunch of left-wing busybodies who kill animals "for their own good." We don't want to go where this leads!)

4 posted on 08/07/2004 10:09:06 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: Coyoteman

"Sorry" doesn't bring that dog back. Maggie needs to be fired immediately.


5 posted on 08/07/2004 10:31:24 PM PDT by jess35
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To: jess35

I sincerely hope that your post was sarcasm.


6 posted on 08/07/2004 10:32:53 PM PDT by Libertina (Puget Sound FReeprs rock on Sunday with Jim Rob!)
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To: ambrose
Health director Lorey White says Nelson didn't follow procedures that would have possibly avoided the death of a golden retriever named Sunny.

Didn't follow procedures? Like, not killing the dogs who have (1) been there less than 24 hours, and (2) whose owners have been contacted and are coming in? *Those* procedures? Jeezus.

I'm assuming this "manager" wasn't the one doing the euthanizing, so presumably she's on the hook for not ensuring the dog was really cleared for the needle. I have to say, though, I'm not sure I would insist this person be fired even for a mistake like this, assuming it was just an honest error. Yes, it's dreadful, but I'm sure an animal shelter that puts dogs to death after 72 hours doesn't exactly require redundant computer checks, signing off by three different vets, and a DNA confirmation before killing dogs. A mistake need not require a single person's gross negligence, I think.

That poor family... I would be devastated if this had happened to my dog.

7 posted on 08/07/2004 10:47:04 PM PDT by Timm
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To: Libertina

Why? If I made a huge mistake at work, I'd be fired for sure.


8 posted on 08/07/2004 10:48:26 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: ambrose

It was actually worse than this article states. The family had phoned the shelter that morning and was told to come pick up the pet at 1:00. When they arrived they were informed of the unthinkable. Their dog was 10 years old. I can only imagine their grief.


9 posted on 08/07/2004 10:50:53 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: Libertina; Coyoteman
I sincerely hope that your post was sarcasm.

Maggie *should* be fired! If my dog ended up at the shelter and I told them I'd be by tomorrow to pick up the dog, I'd expect to pick up a live dog, not a dead one.

Besides the fact that Maggie didn't follow state law and had the dog killed in spite of the law requiring the animal be held for 72 hours.

10 posted on 08/07/2004 10:53:59 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (www.cantheban.net --Can the "assault" weapons ban!)
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To: Shannon

even following the rules, 72 hours isn't very long. especially with a golden retriever, which are very adoptable animals.


11 posted on 08/07/2004 10:55:16 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: Timm

I don't believe this was an "honest error". According to the local paper Nelson was supposed to examine three sets of documents before putting the dog down. Obviously she didn't. And it's North Carolina state law that a dog be held for 72 hours before being killed. I do believe Nelson felt remorse but an honest mistake, no way. Pure negligence.


12 posted on 08/07/2004 10:57:57 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: ambrose

Agreed. The fact is it's a disgrace.


13 posted on 08/07/2004 11:00:49 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: ambrose

If the dog was immediately cremated it would be hard to prove that the dog was not sold to other interests and she pocketed the fee.
In my neck of the woods, it's hard for the locals to adopt a dog, because they can be adopted for a lot more money if shipped to San Francisco. I tried to adopt a dog from the local pound, and was turned down even though I have acreage and a secure area for the dog. That same animal was advertised on KSFO about a week later, on their Puppy Love segment. Finally I ended up adopting from a dog rescue org and he is very happy living on a ranch.
I heard also from an informed source that many go to the Universities to be used in experiments etc, and they pay top dollar to the shelters for the animals.


14 posted on 08/07/2004 11:13:54 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Kerry won't resign from the Senate because he KNOWS he will need SOME job in November!)
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To: ambrose

I'm sure the lawsuit will be as "genuine" as the remorse.


15 posted on 08/07/2004 11:33:28 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Timm
"Yes, it's dreadful, but I'm sure an animal shelter that puts dogs to death after 72 hours doesn't exactly require redundant computer checks, signing off by three different vets, and a DNA confirmation before killing dogs. A mistake need not require a single person's gross negligence, I think."

I disagree. This dog was wearing tags identifying her owners, there was a note saying the family would pick her up, and she had been there less than 24 hours. There were no redundant checks of any kind, not even a simple one time check. I think she should have been fired.

16 posted on 08/07/2004 11:35:51 PM PDT by passionfruit (passionate about my politics, and from the land of fruits and nuts)
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To: Shannon
This isn't the first time this shelter has murdered somebody's dog. Last year, some other woman was running the place and did the same sort of thing. That one also absconded with $65K.

It's probably time to replace the county health director.

17 posted on 08/07/2004 11:56:11 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Shannon; passionfruit
Ah, the plot thickens.

White must be a seasoned bureaucrat. Realizing all the incompetence at the shelter is now putting his own job in jeopardy, he's arranged transfer of responsibility for the shelter to the Sheriff's Department. From now on, employees will be taking orders from the cops.

18 posted on 08/08/2004 12:19:04 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: ambrose
"...72 hours isn't very long."

Last article I read on this stated that a notice was posted prominently on the door to Sunny's cage. It clearly said the dog would be picked up by his owners that afternoon. In spite of this, the dog was pulled from the cage and wasted just hours before the owner and her children arrived to pick up their dog as arranged. This is totally inexcusable.

19 posted on 08/08/2004 12:24:51 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Libertina
I sincerely hope that your post was sarcasm.

What? You're on the side of the incompetent bureaucrat?
20 posted on 08/08/2004 12:44:09 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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My cat's collar was stuck around his neck/shoulder for 12 hours today before I noticed. My penance will be to print this and send it to my local shelter! They need to hear that other shelters get fired for mistakes, and they will too if done to my animals! I can do it, but not them!


21 posted on 08/08/2004 1:56:45 AM PDT by gentlestrength
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To: ambrose

They wait 72 hours before they kill an unwanted dog, but you can kill your unwanted baby over the lunch hour without any delay.

Sounds right to me (Sarcasm)


22 posted on 08/08/2004 3:57:28 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: ambrose; Torie
I'm in Union County, and of course the story has been a big one here. In a Charlotte Observer article, Ms. Nelson expressed shock at being dismissed, while admitting to "gross negligence."

I'm no lawyer, so I can't quote the precise definition of "gross negligence," but to be it has the connotation of a passive error -- a sin of omission, not commission. Had she left the dog's crate unlatched, and the dog had run out into the street and been hit by a truck, that, to me, would be gross negligence.

Ms. Nelson didn't "neglect" to do something, she went out of her way to kill a family pet (that most vicious of breeds, an elderly Golden Retriever) whose tags and paperwork clearly indicated that the dog should be spared.

Of course Ms. Nelson should have been fired. It's not a close call. It is unfortunate that her craven superior dithered around for more than a day, and sought to blame the firing on the public's outcry.

It is not comforting to read that Ms. Nelson wishes to seek another job "working with animals." I'd suggest some place far away from Union County, North Carolina. I hope that Sunny's family hits her with a civil suit, and nails her for enough money such that she'll remember her "gross negligence" for a long, long time.

23 posted on 08/08/2004 5:51:24 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Past performance is no guarantee of future results... I hope.)
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To: milemark

A person losing their job because of a mix up in the pound is way over the top. Yes, it is a tragedy to a family that loves its pet, and the person responsible is probably upset as well. But it a dog, it got away and ended up at the pound and was put down. The owner bears the responsibility.

The pound people typically do a good job caring for our animals. And some money comes from us taxpayers. I could even make an argument that no money should. Where in the constitution does it say that taxpayers should fund an agency to help people who can't hang onto their pets? (Accidentally or on purpose)

Bad things happen in life. Learn to forgive. But perhaps you have never made a mistake. Thanks heaven's it wasn't a doctor or you'd want the death penalty. Or are you one of those who feels animals are more important than humans and wouldn't be so hard on a doctor?


24 posted on 08/08/2004 9:00:33 AM PDT by Libertina (Puget Sound FReeprs rock on Sunday with Jim Rob!)
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To: cyborg

Perhaps animal owners should take full responsibility and the tax payers should quit funding this agency. After all, it is there to bail out individual pet owners when they don't want their pets anymore or if they accidentally lose them... Just a thought.


25 posted on 08/08/2004 9:08:08 AM PDT by Libertina (Puget Sound FReeprs rock on Sunday with Jim Rob!)
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To: LadyDoc; Bella_Bru
They wait 72 hours before they kill an unwanted dog, but you can kill your unwanted baby over the lunch hour without any delay. Sounds right to me (Sarcasm)

ping.

26 posted on 08/08/2004 10:11:30 AM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
It is not comforting to read that Ms. Nelson wishes to seek another job "working with animals."

White actually wrote a letter of recommendation for her. Unbelievable. Makes me wonder what else is going on in that health department.

27 posted on 08/08/2004 10:29:24 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

By the time they run through the approved hiring list there will be a shortage of dogs.


28 posted on 08/08/2004 10:56:00 AM PDT by Old Professer (A faint light is often made brilliant by the darkness.)
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To: Old Professer
One of the articles I read said there's been a shortage of applicants for shelter director since the previous one was fired and put on trial last year. Nelson was a temp.
29 posted on 08/08/2004 11:23:08 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Libertina
And some money comes from us taxpayers. I could even make an argument that no money should. Where in the constitution does it say that taxpayers should fund an agency to help people who can't hang onto their pets? (Accidentally or on purpose)

Where in the Constitution does it say that it applies to LOCAL governments, like the ones which fund animal shelters?

30 posted on 08/08/2004 12:22:17 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Ichneumon

Just another government program I thought I'd throw into the mix for volitilities sake ;) As for the woman director, if she has a history of incompetence, I'd say fire her. But if this was one (very sad) screw-up, I would get on with life. But it is true that local government gives them quite a bit of money. It is a good question to ask; should we fund this?


31 posted on 08/08/2004 12:42:29 PM PDT by Libertina (Puget Sound FReepers rock on Sunday with Jim Rob!)
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To: LadyDoc
They wait 72 hours before they kill an unwanted dog, but you can kill your unwanted baby over the lunch hour without any delay. Sounds right to me (Sarcasm)

*Yawn*. It's not possible for you to think of anything else, is it?

32 posted on 08/08/2004 12:56:23 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Shannon
According to the local paper Nelson was supposed to examine three sets of documents before putting the dog down.

I see. Thanks.

A terrible lapse of attention, then.

I'm curious what exactly the paper said, did it specify anything more about the procedures, and the mistake Nelson made?

33 posted on 08/08/2004 1:50:57 PM PDT by Timm
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To: Bella_Bru
*Yawn*. It's not possible for you to think of anything else, is it?

Actually when I think of dogs, I usually think of food...Masarap!

34 posted on 08/08/2004 8:16:45 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc
I hope you didn't get yourself wet thinking that would bug me.

I actually get a laugh out of the "try to make abortion the point of every thread" posters.

35 posted on 08/08/2004 10:59:36 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: ambrose

Monroe?
Union County?
Arkansas?

If so,
figures.


36 posted on 08/08/2004 11:11:14 PM PDT by norton
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To: Libertina

People lose their jobs over mix ups. There are such things as standards and accountability.


37 posted on 08/11/2004 2:56:40 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: norton

Nope. North Carolina.


38 posted on 08/11/2004 3:40:50 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: Timm
No, it didn't specify the exact procedures.

I'm glad the place is going to be run under the Sherrif's department. It can only improve.

39 posted on 08/11/2004 3:48:04 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: Libertina

Maggie should be put down. *talk amongst yourselves as to whether this is sarcasm*


40 posted on 08/11/2004 3:57:38 PM PDT by rabidralph (A thread I'll never visit: "Topless elderly ladies scare people on the Black Sea beaches")
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To: southernnorthcarolina
It is not comforting to read that Ms. Nelson wishes to seek another job "working with animals."

Working with animals??? That's not a dog pound job where your job is killing them.

41 posted on 08/11/2004 4:18:00 PM PDT by FITZ
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