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Kerry Seeks to Close Democrats' 'Religion Gap'
Reuters ^ | Sun Aug 8, 2004 | Rolando Garcia

Posted on 08/07/2004 11:14:11 PM PDT by Lonely Bull

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has begun speaking more openly about his faith, a move political experts say is crucial to chipping away at President Bush's advantage among churchgoers.

Kerry, a Roman Catholic, rarely addressed his faith during the primary season, but from his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention last month to regular visits to black and non-denominational churches, he is talking in more detail about God's role in his life.

At the Greater Grace Temple in Springfield, Ohio, last Sunday, Kerry told hundreds of worshipers he was running as a "lay leader" but added: "There isn't any way that you're not affected by your fundamental values, the faith that brings you to the table."

And he said his faith in God had helped him through personal tragedy.

"I was at war, lost some of my best friends, those I grew up with and those I fought with," the decorated Vietnam War veteran said. "And I sort of questioned, why does this happen, why did this happen, what's going on?

"We all question. And we learn that even though suffering, through loss, we get in touch with power, with the being, with the almighty."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: doublestandard; electioneering; kerry; kerryandgod; politicking; religiousvote
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1 posted on 08/07/2004 11:14:11 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

Careful there sKerry....you're gonna offend Ron Reagan, the younger.


2 posted on 08/07/2004 11:16:22 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (If only hamsters could vote.......)
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To: Lonely Bull
Catholics who "struggle" with the issue of abortion are "moderate" according to Reuters. If that is "moderate" I'm trying to imagine a "liberal" or a "radical" Catholic.
3 posted on 08/07/2004 11:19:38 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Brad's Gramma
"you're gonna offend Ron Reagan, the younger.

I thought the same thing.....and then when I read the article, I noticed Kerry just lifted his remarks.....

"I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve, but faith has given me values and hope to live by, from Vietnam to this day, from Sunday to Sunday,"

Does this guy have ONE original thought?

4 posted on 08/07/2004 11:21:34 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("It's the Hypocrisy, Stupid,")
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To: Lonely Bull
The only role religion plays in Kerry's life is the discussions his strategy team has trying to figure out how to chip at Bush's connection with people of faith.
5 posted on 08/07/2004 11:21:48 PM PDT by highlander_UW (" Just bear in mind that there is no Botox for the soul.". - Sam Smith)
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To: Lonely Bull; Grampa Dave; SAMWolf; ALOHA RONNIE; PhiKapMom; potlatch; onyx; MeekOneGOP; ...
"I was at war, lost some of my best friends, those I grew up with and those I fought with," the decorated Vietnam War veteran said. "And I sort of questioned, why does this happen, why did this happen, what's going on?

Then I snapped: Hey, there is no God. We can't fight Communism all over the world. In fact, I went to Paris to negotiate with Communists.

I slandered those I fought with to secure victory for the godless Communists.

I've publicly doubted that God is on our side.

I voted against the ban on partial birth abortion--hey, it's just protoplasm, right, there's no soul or anything.

I'm John Kerry, and I can spin my position on this or any other issue faster than Linda Blair spun her head in The Exorcist.


6 posted on 08/07/2004 11:21:48 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Brad's Gramma
John Kerry just had to fire his Faith Based adviser because she submitted an Amicus Brief on behalf of the well known Atheist who is trying to take "Under God" out of the National Anthem. Who will he hire now.... Jimmy Swaggert??
7 posted on 08/07/2004 11:24:09 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: Lonely Bull

I find Kerry's religious remarks to be offensive. I'm a Catholic and his views are not the views of the Catholic Church that I belong to. If he was smart, he would stop pointing out his Viet Nam days.


8 posted on 08/07/2004 11:27:34 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Lonely Bull

---At the Greater Grace Temple in Springfield, Ohio, last Sunday, Kerry told hundreds of worshipers he was running as a "lay leader" but added: "There isn't any way that you're not affected by your fundamental values, the faith that brings you to the table."

And he said his faith in God had helped him through personal tragedy.

"I was at war, lost some of my best friends, those I grew up with and those I fought with," the decorated Vietnam War veteran said. "And I sort of questioned, why does this happen, why did this happen, what's going on?---

Yes, when you sort through all the inchoherent babble, it's all about Viet Nam, isn't it?


9 posted on 08/07/2004 11:28:37 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Uhoh, sounds like someone is "wearing his religion on his sleeve."


10 posted on 08/07/2004 11:31:29 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Lonely Bull

Ron Reagan will have to disappear to that same remote African country Kerry's little honey got off to, lest someone asks him to comment.


11 posted on 08/07/2004 11:33:08 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Lonely Bull
Q: How do you spell 'hypocrite'?

A: K*E*R*R*Y.
12 posted on 08/07/2004 11:33:19 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: claudiustg

Notice how Kerry skips Mass whenever his advance men can't find a pro-abortion priest to give him Communion, or when there's a politically-active pro-abortion Black church he can preach at.


13 posted on 08/07/2004 11:39:25 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Brad's Gramma
David Dreier confronted Ron Reagan with this the other night.

Ron Reagan merely said sheepishly that Kerry must not have listened to his eulogy. LOL.

14 posted on 08/07/2004 11:39:30 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
Ron Reagan merely said sheepishly that Kerry must not have listened to his eulogy.

For REAL???? You're not kidding? Good grief.

15 posted on 08/07/2004 11:48:25 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (If only hamsters could vote.......)
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To: Lonely Bull

When are the feds going to enforce the laws which prohibit electioneering in places of worship?


16 posted on 08/07/2004 11:49:34 PM PDT by AF68
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To: Lonely Bull
And I sort of questioned, why does this happen, why did this happen, what's going on?

"Sort of questioned"? That is a phrase that tells me he is making this up as he goes along.

"...we get in touch with power, with the being, with the almighty."

Isn't it interesting that the author uses all lower case instead of Power, Being, the Almighty. He knows that sKerry is just blathering and the words are not titles of reverence.

Couching issues like helping the poor in religious terms ...

This is a play right out of Dean's playbook.

17 posted on 08/07/2004 11:55:24 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Lonely Bull

Saturday, August 7, 2004
Pledge forces Democrat to resign






The Associated Press


LEXINGTON - A former Kentucky minister who signed a document supporting removal of the words "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance has resigned her new post as top religion adviser to the national Democratic Party.

The Catholic League had blasted the Rev. Brenda Bartella Peterson for signing a friend of the court brief earlier this year urging the U.S. Supreme Court to remove the words from the patriotic oath.

Peterson's involvement in the controversial Supreme Court case was not well known when she joined the Democratic National Committee staff as senior adviser for religious outreach on July 22. But officials with the Catholic League repeatedly seized on the brief this week, saying it shows Peterson and the DNC are out-of-touch with America's religious majority.

"The whirlwind was more than I could just about stand. It was amazing," Peterson said Thursday.

Peterson, 56, is a Lexington Theological Seminary graduate and former pastor of Newtown Christian Church in Scott County. She is an ordained Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) minister.

Her appointment had represented an effort by Democrats to bridge the so-called "God gap," or polls indicating that people who attend church more frequently tend to vote Republican.

The friend of the court brief, filed by 32 religious leaders and the Unitarian Universalist Association, argued that the pledge is an unconstitutional "religious creed" that only promotes "the God of the Christians."

The Catholic League portrayed Peterson as a "left-wing activist" who favored taxes and winked at gay marriage and abortion.

The Catholic League faxed anti)Peterson news releases to newsrooms around America on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Blaming "recent negative publicity," Peterson resigned Wednesday, saying, "I feel it is no longer possible for me to do my job effectively."

"I do not want my support of this case to serve as a distraction or ammunition for Republicans and their allies," Peterson said.


18 posted on 08/07/2004 11:57:18 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Lonely Bull

Well .. how many flip-flop statements are available from Kerry about Bush "using his religion" and Kerry saying something about him "not wearing his religion on his sleeve". Guess he's decided a sleeve with religion on it is good for him. He has no idea how obviously PHONEY this idea is.


19 posted on 08/08/2004 1:03:42 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: PhilDragoo
I'm John Kerry, and I can spin my position on this or any other issue
faster than Linda Blair spun her head in The Exorcist.

ROFL! I almost spewed my coffee on that one, hahahaha!


20 posted on 08/08/2004 3:17:13 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Lonely Bull
has begun speaking more openly about his faith, a move political experts say is crucial to chipping away at President Bush's advantage...

The underlying attitude here is that Kerry and his band of enablers [Reuters] can identify something that has to be, and then snap their fingers and "make it so". "Sort-of" like in Star Trek, when Captain Picard says "Make It So".

21 posted on 08/08/2004 3:25:09 AM PDT by C210N
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To: AF68
When are the feds going to enforce the laws which prohibit electioneering in places of worship?

My impression is that they enforce them all the time -- well, not against Dems, of course . . .

22 posted on 08/08/2004 3:33:54 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Lonely Bull
And he said his faith in God had helped him through personal tragedy.

YIKES... here we go again. Back to the Catholic problems. Divert from the VN vet problem. Drum roll... enter media spin.

Always on the defense; chipping away. Counterfeiter.

23 posted on 08/08/2004 4:10:04 AM PDT by exhaustedmomma (“John Kerry has fought harder for the Vietnamese communists than he fought against them in Vietnam.”)
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To: Lonely Bull
Lead sentence edited for truth:

"Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has begun speaking lying more openly about his faith, a move political experts say is crucial to chipping away at President Bush's advantage among churchgoers.
24 posted on 08/08/2004 4:36:13 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Malesherbes

I am a catholic- pro-life. Kerry attempts to use his religion as a mantel hoping to garner the catholic vote. Scary kerry is no Catholic, but a despicable charlatan. I predict there will be a landslide of votes from the catholics for President Bush. Scarykerry may pick up a few from the CINOS like himself, that should be ex-communicated for the church. Bush/Cheney 2004


25 posted on 08/08/2004 4:52:26 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62))
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To: Lonely Bull
"rarely addressed his faith during the primary season"

That's because no one had yet told him what it was.

26 posted on 08/08/2004 4:58:50 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Lonely Bull
"we get in touch with power, with the being, with the almighty."

For John Kerry to use these words, I have to think he's talking about Bill Clinton.

27 posted on 08/08/2004 5:00:48 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Malesherbes
"I'm trying to imagine a "liberal" or a "radical" Catholic."

In the eyes of their sycophant press, there are no extremists on the left. To them, extremist, by definition, means right-wing.

28 posted on 08/08/2004 5:03:02 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Lonely Bull

My faith in a forgiving, compassionate God is renewed everytime I hear of Kerry not bursting into flames when he enters a church.


29 posted on 08/08/2004 5:03:20 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: Lonely Bull
can't be done when you support fag marriage, abortion, fight tort reform, try to remove God from everything

The dem: the party of satan

30 posted on 08/08/2004 5:06:04 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Lonely Bull

1 But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.

2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,

3 unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,

4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God;

5 holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; and avoid such men as these.

6 For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses,

7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

8 And just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected as regards the faith.

9 But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, as also that of those two came to be.

31 posted on 08/08/2004 5:25:27 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: AF68
When are the feds going to enforce the laws which prohibit electioneering in places of worship?

Right after Republicans start doing it and right after Demorats start howling about it.

32 posted on 08/08/2004 5:31:34 AM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: tallhappy
She is an ordained Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) minister.

Here's a tidbit for you. Ronald Reagan was raised in a Disciples of Christ church. Apparently that church has fallen by the wayside.

33 posted on 08/08/2004 5:35:56 AM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: AF68
"When are the feds going to enforce the laws which prohibit electioneering in places of worship?"

When Republicans start doing it.

34 posted on 08/08/2004 5:48:58 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Lonely Bull

This is deja vu all over again. Al Gore adopted the same strategy a few months before the election in 2000. His faith sharing lasted about 2 days before his liberal base told him to stop. Next thing we know, Kerry will hire Naomi Wolf to coordinate his wardrobe or give Theresa a minute long smooch.


35 posted on 08/08/2004 5:50:02 AM PDT by randita
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To: CyberAnt
". Guess he's decided a sleeve with religion on it is good for him. He has no idea how obviously PHONEY this idea is."

I'm waiting for him to make campaign stops in the south in a pick up with a Confederate flag on it. Then I'll take him seriously seriesly. < /sarcasm >

36 posted on 08/08/2004 5:52:11 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: MeekOneGOP

37 posted on 08/08/2004 5:53:29 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: sweetliberty
haha! I smell a Bush Landslide!


My thanks to Traumer, Arrowhead1952 and Conspiracy Guy for the concept of this pic


38 posted on 08/08/2004 6:27:49 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; nicmarlo; cyborg; PeaceBeWithYou
Have y'all seen this one?

If Kerry Was a Girl

39 posted on 08/08/2004 6:46:21 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: sweetliberty

Bump for later review.....thanks for the ping, sweetliberty.


40 posted on 08/08/2004 7:17:06 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: PhilDragoo

The democrats only religion is the State.


41 posted on 08/08/2004 7:20:55 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Warranty void if tagline removed.)
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To: sweetliberty
For John Kerry to use these words, I have to think he's talking about Bill Clinton.

Given Kerry's penchant for worshipping at the alter of the United Nations, I think he's referring to Kofi Annan.

42 posted on 08/08/2004 7:21:21 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: sweetliberty; Happy2BMe; devolve; yall
If Kerry Was a Girl

LOL! Gotta share that link with the Canteen, I think.


43 posted on 08/08/2004 7:24:13 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Lonely Bull
"Kerry seeks to close Democrat's 'Religion Gap' "

I thought that was supposed to be the job of Jesus.

44 posted on 08/08/2004 7:24:51 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Hehehe....


45 posted on 08/08/2004 7:28:03 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Lonely Bull; Geist Krieger; Salem; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; dennisw; Smartass; JohnHuang2; ...
One of the things I cannot comprehend is how so many Christians can with a clear conscience vote Democrat knowing among the first things they will do once they get in office is to legalize queer marriage.

This to be soon followed by passing laws against Christians who call homosexuality a sin and preach out against it in public - making them CRIMINALS for doing so.

God help this nation.

46 posted on 08/08/2004 10:52:08 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Lonely Bull

What a phony!


47 posted on 08/08/2004 10:53:46 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Paul_B

Very appropriate post


48 posted on 08/08/2004 11:10:51 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Lonely Bull; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; B4Ranch; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; ...

"Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has begun speaking more openly about his faith, a move political experts say is crucial to chipping away at President Bush's advantage among churchgoers."

___________________________

There's faith in God - then there's faith in Kerry - ping.

(God to Kerry at The Judgement: "And for you, I have reserved a very special reward . ."

49 posted on 08/08/2004 12:47:34 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: sweetliberty

LOL! That would be seris .. I mean hugh!


50 posted on 08/08/2004 12:57:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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