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Dems Plan Assault on Vets
Crush Kerry ^ | 8/08/04 | Crush Kerry admin

Posted on 08/08/2004 11:44:55 AM PDT by Merry

The Democrat National Committee has prepared a full-scale assault against the Vietnam Veterans for Truth to draw their character and veracity into question, according to one anonymous source inside the DNC. The campaign of character assassination is scheduled to coincide with the release of the book Unfit for Command which reveals inconvenient facts for the Kerry campaign.

“We have prepared what we call ‘Brown Books’ that contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,” our source told us. The “Brown Books” are so-called because of their distinctive plain brown covers, which contain no words. Some books have already been delivered to Kerry-friendly reporters. Others are on their way, our source told us. When asked if we could have a copy, our source declined, saying there is a limited number of “Brown Books” and they have been carefully inventoried to control in whose hands the books ended up.

Ultimately the “Brown Books” will end up in the hands of pro-Kerry news agencies and reporters. According to our source, who demanded to remain anonymous for fear of retribution, The New York Times is already on the hook to run a negative series on the Vets, as is the Boston Globe, which is owned by the Times. (Editor’s Note: The Globe has already been caught attempting to attack the veracity of George Elliott, Kerry’s commanding officer in Vietnam.)

In addition, the DNC has deployed a six member team from their press shop whose sole responsibility will be to spin and counter-spin stories about the members of Vietnam Veterans for Truth with pro-Kerry media entities, like the Times.

When asked if this was just another example of John Kerry slandering Vietnam Vets – like he did in 1971 as a member of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War – our source snapped, “No! This is warfare. The only way we’re going to get out of this is to force everyone to question their motives and credibility.”

“If they want to spread rumors and stories about John Kerry, we’ll spread rumors and stories about them. And some of the things they did in Vietnam were a lot worse than what they say John Kerry did,” our source concluded ominously.

Stay tuned. We will keep you posted as this nasty story develops. Posted on Sunday, August 08 @ 14:36:36 EDT by admin


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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Merry; All
Here is the bulk of what I have gathered against sKerry... feel free to use in any way you like. I've had it with these creeps & clowns:

 -The Swift Grey Fox- John Kerry versus the Swift Boat Vets--

-The Prince of Tides- Bush ads, Kerry ads, the Tides Foundation, and so much more--

-Kansas City Kerry- "The Phoenix Project"--

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--


101 posted on 08/08/2004 1:20:38 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Merry

among other things, it is a federal offense to release anyone's credit information (Fair Credit Reporting Act). Similarly, the HIPPA forbids dissemination of medical or psychiatric records without the written consent of the subject. No wonder the DNC is so carefully tracking to whom their "Brown (shirt) Books" are being distributed.

I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Express last night ;) Maybe FReep lawyers could give more info.


102 posted on 08/08/2004 1:24:09 PM PDT by EDINVA (t)
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To: Steven W.

You are so right. They should make an ad using that. He clearly lied about his record on the Senate Floor in the Congressional record.

Kerry and his goons can't get out of that lie. It brings all of Kerry's claims about his record into question.

That Cambodia lie and the fact he only served four months really redound to the Swifties advantage-- it nukes Kerry's credibility. The he went Purple Heart hunting to get out of Nam way early" charge is helped by Kerry's lack of injuries, unwillingness to releasse his med records, and the fact that he did bug out after 4 months.

The "he lied about what happened in Nam" charge is helped immensely by his obvious lie about Cambodia.

We need a new ad (with the Cambodia smoking gun), and it needs wide distribution.


103 posted on 08/08/2004 1:28:06 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Merry

They took the bait.


104 posted on 08/08/2004 1:28:22 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Listen here President Bush..You'd better win and win big because if you don't we're toast.)
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To: OpusatFR

You're right-- this could backfire on them spectacularly!!!!!


105 posted on 08/08/2004 1:30:46 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: OpusatFR
My thoughts exactly. You cannot simultaneously lionize John Kerry for his brief, questionable Vietnam service, and then slam a large bunch of people who served there longer, harder, and came away with REAL injuries out of it.

Attacks on the Swift Boat Vets will backfire on the Rats.

106 posted on 08/08/2004 1:31:11 PM PDT by hunter112 (Take this John and shove it!)
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To: luvbach1

Perhaps if Rush would stop just talking about it but urge his listeners to donate, we would make a difference.


107 posted on 08/08/2004 1:31:16 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: hunter112

The Rats suck. This is so LOW!!!

My hate for Kerry and the Left generally just tripled.

What SOBs!!!


108 posted on 08/08/2004 1:35:50 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Merry
...damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records...

Bastards.

I hope this backfires on them big time.

109 posted on 08/08/2004 1:37:22 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: rwfromkansas

Rich GOPers should be donating huge amounts of dought to these brave men. The rats are playing for keeps, are we??


110 posted on 08/08/2004 1:37:25 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Mo1

Lehane and Shrum..


111 posted on 08/08/2004 1:38:14 PM PDT by Dog (Edwards threatening Al Qaeda is like Pee Wee Herman threatening Lucca Brazzi.)
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To: Merry

DEmocrats are really worried ,as they should be, tyo be going to this level


112 posted on 08/08/2004 1:39:57 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: OpusatFR
The Dems are right to fear this issue.

Given a proper public airing, it nukes Kerry's campaign in one shot.

I was disgusted by the cavalier manner with which this was dismissed by Brit Hume, among others who claim to be interested in the truth. It reminded me of the Clinton impeachment whitewash. The accused was dead to rights, but everyone stuck their fingers in their ears because of the supposed ramifications.

Honestly, it would be disservice to honest Democrats to have a candidate lined up who is persoally damaged. I would rather see a race decided on the ideological merits. But when the personal negatives are covered up from day one, or simply ignored, such is the risk they took.

If Hillary Clinton does have sympathetic hands on the levers of media power, the Kerry campaign is now hers for destroying whenever she chooses.

As more specific details of this story emerge, and these vets defend themselves, it could get real ugly for Kerry.

So far this looks like the most disgraceful media coverup I've ever witnessed.

113 posted on 08/08/2004 1:41:23 PM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: Dog

Lehane is a vile POS. I wish Steve Gardner could get five minutes with Lehane.

Lehane is the type of guy I would love to see a burly old Vet like Gardner rip to pieces.


114 posted on 08/08/2004 1:41:34 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: All

We need to send this off to some folks to check out.

Some of this info would be illegal to release, so I somewhat question this report. If true, some folks at the Kerry campaign would have to be imprisoned for this.

Drudge@drudgereport.com
Rush@eibnet.com
Hannity@foxnews.com


115 posted on 08/08/2004 1:42:03 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

This is the same old dem MO and I'm sure the Swift Boat Vets expected it. As far as I know, none of them are running for President of the United States; consequently, making dem accusations irrelevant.


116 posted on 08/08/2004 1:43:06 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Monti Cello

Yup, if these people were trashing Bush, they'd be on Time magazine hailed as whistleblowers.

This Big Media cover up is such a betrayal of the AMerican people.


117 posted on 08/08/2004 1:44:45 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Merry
"The Democrat National Committee has prepared a full-scale assault against the Vietnam Veterans for Truth ...

This will surely BACKFIRE!

118 posted on 08/08/2004 1:47:57 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: rwfromkansas
Some of this info would be illegal to release, so I somewhat question this report. If true, some folks at the Kerry campaign would have to be imprisoned for this.

Yes, the more I'm thinking about it, the harder it is to believe.

Without question, the DNC even having possession of personal credit histories, medical histories and psychiatric histories are all federal offenses.

119 posted on 08/08/2004 1:52:13 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: Monti Cello
The Dems are right to fear this issue.
Given a proper public airing, it nukes Kerry's campaign in one shot.

Actually, it helps Kerry, which is why the DNC is putting this "assault" on the Swiftvets together. They need to do something to keep this going; on its own, it would be dead by Tuesday.

I know I'm going against the grain here, but Bush is staying as far away from this as he can for a very good reason: it will backfire, big time, if he says anything about these guys.

As more specific details of this story emerge, and these vets defend themselves, it could get real ugly for Kerry.

Actually, Vietnam works only positively for Kerry, just as the war on terror works only positively for Bush.

There is so much else to nail Kerry on; don't put all your hopes on this Swiftvets issue. It is bound to fail.

120 posted on 08/08/2004 1:53:02 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: faithincowboys
Rich GOPers should be donating huge amounts of dought to these brave men.

Yep. That'll help. Tie big supporters of Bush to the SwiftVets.

They, and Bush want no part of this.

121 posted on 08/08/2004 1:54:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: Merry

I would imagine this explains the origin of the threatening emails the Swift Boat Vets received...


122 posted on 08/08/2004 1:55:37 PM PDT by dandelion (AKA "The Kerry Fairy" - http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: luvbach1
Do we want to be party to bashing vets, even Kerry suppporters, when some of them may be real heroes?

That's the $64,000 question.

123 posted on 08/08/2004 1:55:38 PM PDT by BobbyK (The Truth Is Out There.)
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To: listenhillary
"I wonder what this is costing the DNC?"

I hope it costs them the entire wad of their bribe money illegal campaign contributions and blows up in their faces. They don't have any feet left to shoot.

124 posted on 08/08/2004 1:57:07 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Merry
The Democrat National Committee has prepared a full-scale assault against the Vietnam Veterans for Truth to draw their character and veracity into question, according to one anonymous source inside the DNC.

First of all, before we all get too worked up with this, it is an ANONYMOUS SOURCE. We always question this type of sourcing for stories against Pres. Bush, thus, we should also take this with a huge grain of salt.

“We have prepared what we call ‘Brown Books’ that contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,” our source told us.

This is a threat to go into their personal lives -- pure and simple. The DNC know this is below the belt gutter politics. Thus, they want to issue the threat using an anonymous source in the hope of shutting the swift boat vets up. We all know that if they follow though on the nuts and sluts defense, it'll backfire like they have never seen it before. All the vets have to do is stick to the facts and call their bluff.

125 posted on 08/08/2004 1:57:58 PM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: Merry
....And some of the things they did in Vietnam were a lot worse than what they say John Kerry did,” our source concluded ominously.

But not one of them has endorsed a candidate nor are any of them running for office in any capacity. This is pure unadulterated attack dog politics.

This is going to rock the entire nation and cloud every newsworthy happenstance throughout the world.

I've never sensed such rabid entusiasm to unleash the attack dogs and start destroying lives as this since Watergate. The rats are totally freaked and their "feel good" impersonation of a suicide bomber will probably be low level TV talking heads imploding on camera.

ABCCBSNBSMSNBCFORCNN have all just contacted the temp agencies to hire extra help, it's gonna be a long week.

126 posted on 08/08/2004 1:59:24 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: sinkspur

I'm not saying Bush supporters. I'm saying people who hate Kerry (clearly there has to be many who aren't well known Bush backers) should pony up some dough and help the Swifties.

I'll do what I can, but it's limited.

I'm just wondering where all the rich patriots are.

H. Ross Perot should even want to help the Swifties. Perot is a real soldier loving guy. Kerry has got to be on his crap list.

I'm just windering where our Soros is. Scaife is too compromised at this point. We need committed, well heeled people to counterattck these anti-American, Fifth column Leftists.


127 posted on 08/08/2004 1:59:47 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: EDINVA
This does not apply to the Democraps. Remember when Kenneth Bacon (Clintooooon's Department of Defense shill) released Linda Tripp's personnel file to the pimps of the media. ABSOLUTE SILENCE FROM THE MEDIA!
128 posted on 08/08/2004 2:00:48 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: All

So, Kerry again will attack Viet Vets....this is going to kill him more than any book.....


129 posted on 08/08/2004 2:01:14 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Merry; onyx; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; doug from upland; Howlin; nopardons; WKB; dixiechick2000; ...

Are we gonna fight these bastards or take it up the keister?


All you wobbly freepers!


Nut up and do your duty!


"If I had a rocket launcher" (to coin a famous Canuck socialist)

I'm as pissed as I've been in a long time.

So many soft conservatives both here and in the media.

UNLESS WE STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL< THEY WILL KILL US AND OUR CULTURE....anyone disagrees with that is a naive moron.

Send money and write and call......the left used to refer to it as "lighting a prairie fire"....let's keep this one lit dammit!


130 posted on 08/08/2004 2:01:25 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fox News has jumped the shark......God save Hannity)
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To: JoeSixPack1

You're right. Kerry's the one running for POTUS.

This Dem cheap shot is gonna backfire badly if we support the Swifites.

The Mcaulliffe-Kerry DNC is the most corrupt operation ever.

I am so grossed out by this.


131 posted on 08/08/2004 2:02:10 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Merry

bump


132 posted on 08/08/2004 2:03:18 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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It's crucial that the SBV must have the money to continue running their ad(s) and the fact that station managers must have the cojones to air them.
Also this post via Instapundit:

They Report, We Intimidate

The Boston Democratic convention featured a rich side menu of interesting seminars. One of the most controversial was a workshop for new Democratic campaign press secretaries that sounded like a call to arms in its advice on how to deal with the new media universe.


Lecturers urged press secretaries to confront what one warned was "media that are no longer tilted in your direction." Bullying was openly encouraged. "When it comes to the media," suggested Democratic strategist James Carville, "intimidation works." "Challenge them," added David Brock of [Media Matters, a new liberal group set up to criticize conservative media outlets]. Democrats used to rail at the likes of Reed Irvine and his conservative group Accuracy in Media, accusing them of nitpicking at media stories and ginning up public complaints against them. No more. It will be interesting to see what, if any, "intimidation" success stories the Democrats will be touting in coming months. -


133 posted on 08/08/2004 2:03:59 PM PDT by anglian
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To: faithincowboys
H. Ross Perot should even want to help the Swifties. Perot is a real soldier loving guy.

Perot's not going to get in the middle of a pissin' match between two groups of Veterans.

134 posted on 08/08/2004 2:04:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: lonevoice

Why would they give info to Crushkerry.com...doesn't make any sense.

Perhaps they acted like they were with a newspaper or something.

I know I sometimes exaggerate my qualifications if a source doesn't want to talk to me; I am just editor of my college paper, but since we are printed as s ection in the town publication, I sometimes will give the town paper name if they won't talk to me otherwise.

But still, I can't imagine them talking to Crushkerry.com...unless this guy thinks it would scare off the vets. If so, they are wrong.

If they pull this crap against the vets, I will do all I can to attack Kerry and I will donate to Swiftvets.


135 posted on 08/08/2004 2:04:40 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: listenhillary

ditto


136 posted on 08/08/2004 2:05:51 PM PDT by pctech
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To: livius
"if his medals are called into question, so are theirs (since he put them in for those awards in events that now appear never to have happened)."

I don't even pretend to understand military protocol, but how does anybody gain enough clout in 4 months to put anybody in for anything?

137 posted on 08/08/2004 2:06:37 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: wardaddy
UNLESS WE STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL< THEY WILL KILL US AND OUR CULTURE....anyone disagrees with that is a naive moron.

Preach it!

138 posted on 08/08/2004 2:08:13 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: sinkspur

Any group of Vets who hitch their star to a traitor like Kerry are nothing more than collaborators.

Kerry's "Band of Brothers" are the people who should be scrutinized. What is motivating them to be Kerry's useful idiots?

It's got to be MONEY!!!


139 posted on 08/08/2004 2:09:54 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: rwfromkansas
Why would they give info to Crushkerry.com...doesn't make any sense.

Sure it does.

The Kerry camp wants this controversy to continue!! All the way to the election!!

That FReepers are willing to help them by giving money to the Swiftvets is beyond me.

Bush is not helped, and Kerry is not hurt, by a focus on Vietnam. Vietnam is Kerry's issue. He wins on it, just having the media utter the word.

This is a loser for the GOP. We should stay away from it.

140 posted on 08/08/2004 2:09:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: Merry
“We have prepared what we call ‘Brown Books’ that contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,... The only way we’re going to get out of this is to force everyone to question their motives and credibility.” - Anonymous DNC source

The clinton's have trained these pr!cks well.

It's the old "Nuts and Sluts" Defence. It's worked very well in the past against individuals who have fallen afoul of the clintons agenda. We'll now see if it works against hundreds of honorable combat veterans who are decorated for their service to their country and are now private citizens trying to expose a monstrous fraud.

This is going to get very ugly.

141 posted on 08/08/2004 2:09:57 PM PDT by Gritty ("Liberals behavioral tics proceed from their godless belief they are themselves gods-Ann Coulter)
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To: faithincowboys
Any group of Vets who hitch their star to a traitor like Kerry are nothing more than collaborators.

That's what you say, but that's not what most voters say.

You watch. There'll be polling done on the Swiftvets, and voters will be overwhelmingly opposed to their ad.

142 posted on 08/08/2004 2:11:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: sinkspur

You're nuts. I think Vietnam is a major loser for Kerry.

Especially what it means when you tie it to his betrayal of the soliders in Iraq. It is very relevant.

I think Kerry's lies about his service, his slander of the Vietnam Vets and his refusal to fund troops in combat in Afghanistan and Iraq are all of a piece.


143 posted on 08/08/2004 2:11:53 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Brad's Gramma; Mo1
“We have prepared what we call ‘Brown Books’ that contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,” our source told us.

Medical records? Credit reports? Tax returns?

Good. I'd like to see John Kerry's while we're waiting.

144 posted on 08/08/2004 2:12:12 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: livius
"...if they're going to play dirty."

If they're gonna play dirty? When was the last itme you ever knew them to play any other way?

145 posted on 08/08/2004 2:12:19 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: sinkspur; All

Why??

The book (i've read a chapter) is very persuasive.

A lot of average people have lots of questions about Kerry getting out only after 4 months-- it smells. A lot of people are put off by Kerry's complete exploitation of Nam.

Showing that Kerry's Nam service is a giant example of hype, betrayal and opportunism does nothing to help Kerry.


146 posted on 08/08/2004 2:14:28 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: sweetliberty
“We have prepared what we call ‘Brown Books’ that contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,” our source told us.

According to our source, who demanded to remain anonymous for fear of retribution

I'll just bet he/she did want to remain anonymous.

147 posted on 08/08/2004 2:14:46 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: faithincowboys
I think Vietnam is a major loser for Kerry.

No it's not. Voters actually don't care about his protesting, and are aware of his medals. They figure a guy must have done something to deserve medals.

I think Vietnam is a loser for the GOP, and for us, since Bush didn't go. We should stay away from this.

The issue of the $87 billion is much more relevant, and important, than Vietnam.

148 posted on 08/08/2004 2:15:10 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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To: sinkspur
The only way we’re going to get out of this is to force everyone to question their motives and credibility

If that's an accurate quote, it's pretty damning.

149 posted on 08/08/2004 2:16:01 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Merry

Hmmmm? The last few days I've seen dem after dem saying this new ad is "simply not important" and cannot hurt Kerry.

Seems to me they're going to a lot of trouble for something that's not important.


150 posted on 08/08/2004 2:18:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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