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Millions in U.S. Face Mega-Wave from Island Collapse (don't worry about meteors)
reuters ^ | Mon 9 August, 2004 14:33 | Scientist Bill McGuire, Jeremy Lovell

Posted on 08/09/2004 10:27:49 AM PDT by Truth666

The bad news is tens of millions of people along the eastern seaboard of the United States and Canada may drown if the slow slippage of a volcano off north Africa becomes a cataclysmic collapse.

But the good news is the world is not likely to be destroyed by an asteroid any time soon.

Scientist Bill McGuire told that some time in the next few thousand years the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the Canary Island of La Palma will collapse, sending walls of water 100 meters high racing across the Atlantic.

A chunk of the volcano [Cumbre Vieja, western flank of the Canary Island of La Palma] the size of a small island began to slide into the ocean in 1949. There is almost no monitoring of the volcano, giving virtually no chance of any advance warning of another eruption which could trigger the catastrophe.

He said the slow collapse -- started by an eruption in 1949 -- would almost certainly be turned catastrophic by another eruption of the volcano which erupts every 25 to 200 years.

The last eruption was in 1971, and prior to 1949, the previous eruption was in 1712.

"A future president of the United States must make a call on what to do when La Palma collapses," he said.

On a brighter note, scientist Benny Peiser of John Moores University in Liverpool told the same news conference that the threat of a cataclysmic strike on the earth by a large asteroid was fading rapidly as money was pumped into finding them.

Within 10 to 30 years, all the near-earth asteroids will have been charted. Scientists believe they can find a way to steer an asteroid out of the way of the earth, as long as they have enough warning it is coming.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canaryislands; catastrophism; cumbrevieja; lapalma; tsunami
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51 posted on 08/09/2004 11:45:20 AM PDT by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Truth666
Seems to me that the energy of such a wave could be disrupted/neutralized by detonating nukes ahead of the swell.
52 posted on 08/09/2004 11:47:52 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Arkinsaw

The damage to sand castles over the entire eastern seaboard is expected to be devestating, with significantly greater destruction if the collapse occurs in the months of July or August.


53 posted on 08/09/2004 11:49:13 AM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: Truth666
"A future president of the United States must make a call on what to do when La Palma collapses," he said.

LOL

54 posted on 08/09/2004 11:53:52 AM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: Larry Lucido
Wow, I didn't know Nelson's column was so tall.

Now we know what Lady Hamilton saw in him.

55 posted on 08/09/2004 11:54:01 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Only 5 cents a troll? Must be too many of the varmints around here...)
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To: 70times7
The damage to sand castles over the entire eastern seaboard is expected to be devestating, with significantly greater destruction if the collapse occurs in the months of July or August.

Yes, its humorous, as long as it doesn't occur.
56 posted on 08/09/2004 11:57:26 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: wideawake

"If you have a degree you can make any crazy claims you like."

This is not a crazy claim, it was documented in a television program on one of the cable channels. It is a hugh amount of earth that will eventually slide into the sea. This is the equivalent of you slipping into the bathtub. It sends a wall of water in the opposite direction. It is not really a matter of if, more a matter of when. The island earth mass is honeycombed with collected water which is leading to the certain slip into the sea.


57 posted on 08/09/2004 1:07:44 PM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: oldcomputerguy
It is a hugh amount of earth

Are you series?

This is the equivalent of you slipping into the bathtub.

Given the size of the Canary Islands and the size of the Atlantic Ocean, it's more like me dropping my keys in the bathtub. Probably less in terms of the ratio of land mass vs. the amount of water.

I just don't buy the proportions here - this much rock vs. the Atlantic does not equal all that much displacement, proportionally. I know it would cause a massive disturbance, but I don't see how it would propagate a 300 foot tall wave 3000 miles away.

58 posted on 08/09/2004 1:15:51 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Truth666
There are 7 islands in the Canary Island group. La Palma is the island furthest west with nothing but ocean between it and the U.S. east coast. Having sailed these waters I can say what impressed me most was Mt. Teide on the island of Tenerife, it's just over 12,000 ft. in height; given the fact the mountain base is at sea level this is one awe inspiring mountain. Much of the year it is snow capped which makes it, in clear weather, spectacular to behold ... especially from a 45' sailboat.
59 posted on 08/09/2004 1:24:57 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: FeliciaCat
final destinations in the North Atlantic to be affected by the tsunami, will have to brace themselves for receiving 50 kilometre high waves

Those should be hard to brace for.

60 posted on 08/09/2004 1:26:36 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: wideawake

"I don't see how it would propagate a 300 foot tall wave 3000 miles away."

Water is a transmission medium, you create a disturbance at one end and it is propagated for long distances. The rising shoreline at the other end causes the wave to rise. A normal earthquake tsunami is typcially limited to 30 feet or so due to the nature of the event that causes it. Landslide tsunamis are altogether different as to their consequences.


61 posted on 08/09/2004 1:34:42 PM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: George Smiley
Wrong!

New York Times headline:

Glub, glub, glub...

;-)

62 posted on 08/09/2004 1:51:43 PM PDT by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over and the Constitution is dead.)
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To: Captain Rhino

maybe all those high rises on the beach could mitigate. Sarcasm off.


63 posted on 08/09/2004 2:12:25 PM PDT by ping jockey (Drag em out and beat em in the street.)
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To: Truth666

Saw a show about the exact same thing except it was the north end of the big island in Hawaii...gonna kill us all on the western seaboard...run run we're all gonna die

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


64 posted on 08/09/2004 2:13:14 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: ▀udda▀udd
Check out the size of these debris fields, and the northeast direction they slipped.

Nuuanu map
Debris from enormous landslides off Oahu and Molokai extends hundreds of kilometers
Map © 2001 MBARI


65 posted on 08/09/2004 2:14:01 PM PDT by Slicksadick (He's French. His hairdresser also grooms poodles. He's a rich woman's pet. That cover's it)
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To: Slicksadick

66 posted on 08/09/2004 2:19:05 PM PDT by Slicksadick (He's French. His hairdresser also grooms poodles. He's a rich woman's pet. That cover's it)
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To: Truth666

Bad policy to write articles while high on acid.


67 posted on 08/09/2004 2:58:52 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: Slicksadick

Yikes!


68 posted on 08/09/2004 3:06:12 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways)
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To: skeeter

Thank you for clarifying that for me.


69 posted on 08/09/2004 3:07:48 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways)
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To: All

Recently Discovered Near-Earth Asteroid Makes Record-breaking Approach to Earth
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1100171/posts


70 posted on 08/09/2004 4:39:33 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

TIMING FOR THIS STORY - BREAKING

After a time of 'silence', discoveries of so-called 'minor planets' came in a hurry today - astronomers detected at least 10 new objects in the last 24 hours.
These discoveries are being reported to the Minor Planet Center (MPC) and being published on the so-called NEO confirmation page.
Now have look on today's discoveries:
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/NEO/ToConfirm.html
Object AO89913 is very interesting, scroll back the ephemeridis by 67 hours and you will see a dramatic drop in "V" which describes brightness and a decreasing value in 'V' means increasing brightening. Further there was a huge increase in "motion" which describes sky-mechanical size of the object. The MPC signed the trajectory at that point (08/07/04) with "***" which means the object will come close as 0.0027 AU or 1 Lunar distance in the following 100 hours.
There's still a great deal of uncertainty with this prelimanary trajectory but the object might have come extremely close in the last 72 hours or will do so in the next 24 hours.
Beyond this object there are others which are also supposed to come 'close' especially AO86297 because its trajectory has been confirmed and a MPEC bulletin with more information will be posted soon but at this stage I can tell you it's also going to be a 'near miss', 5 to 10 lunar distances is a first estimate.
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/NEO/ToConfirm.html
71 posted on 08/10/2004 3:02:30 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: RightWhale

what are you talking about?


72 posted on 08/10/2004 10:19:28 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: George Smiley

There would not be a NY, much less a NYT if this happens.


73 posted on 08/10/2004 10:22:06 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: rwfromkansas

You may have missed that sci-fi classic. Had a painting of the moon on the cover, kind of like a melon at the instant of being struck by a 30 cal rifle bullet.


74 posted on 08/10/2004 10:28:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: bondjamesbond
Surely, it is all GEORGE BUSH'S FAULT!

I agree. The Army Corps of Engineers should be building a massive seawall the entire length of the East Coast to protect us from this disaster. The left-wing enviro-whackos won't like it, but we're in desperate need for Homeland Security to defend our coastlines!

75 posted on 08/10/2004 10:42:59 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: Truth666
Millions in U.S. Face Mega-Wave from Island Collapse ...Children, Minorities Hardest Hit.
76 posted on 08/10/2004 3:09:50 PM PDT by presidio9 (KHAAAAAAAANNNN!!! KHAAAAAAAANNNN!!!)
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Note: this topic was posted 8/9/2004. Thanks Truth666.

77 posted on 02/11/2014 5:42:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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