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"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories."

Duh.

1 posted on 08/10/2004 3:12:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

While I have no reason to suspect the Prowler of bad journalism, I would like to know how DNC staff got copies of this book in time to have highlighted 75 areas of concern. Did the Swift vets or Regnery give them galley proofs for commentary? Something does not seem right with this article.

DNC apologists appearing on TV this past week certainly did not sound like they knew what was in the book - beyond the chapter which was put online just last week.


145 posted on 08/10/2004 8:34:20 AM PDT by maica (The flags the dems waved at the convention were left on Fleet Center floor.)
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To: Liz
because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.

The Kerry team has a problem now.

This story has been out there and covered(poorly) for several days, and now the book will be circulating and the book interviews start tonite on Hannity and Colmes.

The democrats must totally discredit 200 vets and they can't!

The press is caught with a story they do not want and I am elated because the story now has legs. They will be forced to cover it.

148 posted on 08/10/2004 8:37:31 AM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Liz

As if anyone with one and a grain of sense couldn't see it.


153 posted on 08/10/2004 8:45:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Liz; All
If you recall the media tried to give FL to Gore in 2000
VNS was a private consortium owned by
ABC News, The Associated Press, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC.

4 of the 5 of the networks and cable newsrooms
(only ABC waited till both time zones closed)
"announced" Gore had won
BEFORE the 2nd time zone in FL had closed.
This cost President Bush votes in the FL panhandle.

I was at a friends house and the State of FL election website results showed President Bush was winning

In fact, the networks which called Florida for Gore did so early in the evening—before polls had even closed in the Florida panhandle, which is part of the Central Time Zone. NBC called Florida for Gore at 7:49:40 p.m., Eastern Time. This was 10 minutes before polls closed in the Florida panhandle. Thirty seconds later, CBS called Florida for Gore. And at 7:52 p.m., Fox called Florida for Gore. Moore never lets the audience know that Fox was among the networks which made the error of calling Florida for Gore prematurely. Then at 8:02 p.m., ABC called Florida for Gore. Only ABC had waited until the Florida polls were closed.

About an hour before the polls closed in panhandle Florida,
the networks called the U.S. Senate race in favor of the Democratic candidate.

The premature calls may have cost Bush thousands of votes from the conservative panhandle, as discouraged last-minute voters heard that their state had already been decided;
some last-minute voters on their way to the polling place turned around and went home. Other voters who were waiting in line left the polling place. In Florida, as elsewhere, voters who have arrived at the polling place before closing time often end up voting after closing time, because of long lines. The conventional wisdom of politics is that supporters of the losing candidate are most likely to give up on voting when they hear that their side has already lost. Thus, on election night 1980, when incumbent President Jimmy Carter gave a concession speech while polls were still open on the west coast, the early concession was blamed for costing the Democrats several Congressional seats in the West, such as that of 20-year incumbent James Corman. The fact that all the networks had declared Reagan a landslide winner while west coast voting was still in progress was also blamed for Democratic losses in the West; Congress even held hearings about prohibiting the disclosure of exit polls before voting had ended in the any of the 48 contiguous states.

Even if the premature television calls affected all potential voters equally, the effect was to reduce Republican votes significantly, because the Florida panhandle is a Republican stronghold. Most of Central Time Zone Florida is in the 1st Congressional District, which is known as the "Redneck Riviera." In that district, Bob Dole beat Bill Clinton by 69,000 votes in 1996, even though Clinton won the state by 300,000 votes.

So depress overall turnout in the panhandle,
and you will necessarily depress more Republican than Democratic votes.

A 2001 study by John Lott suggested that the early calls cost Bush at least 7,500 votes,
and perhaps many more.

At 10:00 p.m., which network took the lead in retracting the premature Florida win for Gore?
The first retracting network was CBS, not Fox.

Over four hours later, at 2:16 a.m., Fox projected Bush as the Florida winner,
as did all the other networks by 2:20 a.m.

At 3:59 a.m., CBS took the lead in retracting the Florida call for Bush. All the other networks, including Fox, followed the CBS lead within eight minutes. That the networks arrived at similar conclusions within a short period of time is not surprising, since they were all using the same data from the Voter News Service. (Linda Mason, Kathleen Francovic & Kathleen Hall Jamieson, “CBS News Coverage of Election Night 2000: Investigation, Analysis, Recommendations” (CBS News, Jan. 2001), pp. 12-25.)


The big 5 media TV and Cable newsrooms are the real threat to the 2004 election.

..."Early on Tuesday, November 7th 2000, TV stations and various media based in Florida reported that Gore has won Florida which was a big surprise for everyone because of strong republican support. Bush's brother Jeb is governor there and Florida usually gives support to the Republicans. Some of them questioned that and during the night CNN showed 52% Bush's lead over 46% for Gore. It is almost impossible to believe that media could have been that blind and biased to report Gore's victory."...



158 posted on 08/10/2004 8:55:46 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Just say NO to TV and Cable "News" , "Polls" and "Election Results")
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To: mhking; MeekOneGOP

Ping


164 posted on 08/10/2004 9:03:04 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.

"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."


170 posted on 08/10/2004 9:37:12 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Liz; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Botox Malfunction: Presidential Hopeful's Eyebrows Stuck


Presidential hopeful, John Kerry, found he needed to use
his fingers to raise his eyebrows after receiving an overdose
of Botox injected near his right temple. Campaign staffers
close to Kerry joked that he would now have a "permanent
salute."


173 posted on 08/10/2004 9:46:18 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Liz

Yeh..Like Susan Estrogen..........


174 posted on 08/10/2004 9:47:45 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: crushkerry

gotta see this.


176 posted on 08/10/2004 9:51:13 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: Liz; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; dixiechick2000; ...
COMMAND CONFIDENCE Kerry staff: "Unfit not
a problem, media is committed to seeing us win"

Excerpt:

"We took some of the most glaring examples, like the Christmas in Cambodia story, and presented them to senior staff, and we assume that those things were put in front of Senator Kerry," says the source. "We haven't heard a word about it. All we were told is that it was being taken care of."

The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.

"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


177 posted on 08/10/2004 9:57:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Liz
This reminds me of the line in Hunt For Red October said to Capt. Tupolev "You arrogant ass. You've killed US!"
182 posted on 08/10/2004 10:32:05 AM PDT by swheats
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To: Liz
Post Your Girlie Man Kerry Photos Here
186 posted on 08/10/2004 11:28:13 AM PDT by OldCorps
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Forwarded on to people in my address book. The media committed to a Ketchupman win has never been doubted. FLUSH THE JOHNS!


188 posted on 08/10/2004 12:14:42 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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Kerry staff: "Unfit not a problem, media is committed to seeing us win")

LOL! Now there's a press-shocker!
190 posted on 08/10/2004 12:47:50 PM PDT by VOA
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It is so glaringly obvious the difference in how the media handled the stories about Bush's service in Alabama and how they are (not) handling this. The staffer is correct - the media will give Kerry a pass.


193 posted on 08/10/2004 1:21:01 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: Liz
"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."

He means of course that this country's sober, professional, objective, and totally unbiased media drank the socialist Kool-Aid a long time ago.

210 posted on 08/10/2004 5:20:49 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories."

And hence the problems with todays media. I still say they are going to decide this election, one way or the other, and someone needs to put some type of limit as to what the media can do to influence elections.

211 posted on 08/10/2004 5:25:08 PM PDT by pctech
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One FReeper sez, 'OK, here's a chant that everyone should use when Kerry mentions Vietnam ... "Form One-Eighty. Form One-Eighty. Form One-Eighty". This is the form he needs to sign to authorize the Navy to release his full service records, instead of the select subset his campaign has deigned to release so far.'

Kerry mentions Vietnam, crowd chants:


FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!

FORM ONE-EIGHTY!


212 posted on 08/10/2004 5:46:48 PM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Liz
"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories."

I see the SDS is still doing "13" and taking Dr. Timothy Leary's sugar cubes.

213 posted on 08/10/2004 6:31:19 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Liz
Yes, but Drudge is on the case and doesn't seem in the mood to loosen his grip. Drudge will force it on the major media by listing it as his headline several times a week.
214 posted on 08/10/2004 6:36:41 PM PDT by CaptainK
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