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Brit Hume and Lt Col Bill Cowan Supporting Switfee Story
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Posted on 08/10/2004 3:32:18 PM PDT by what's up

Hume looks to be going after the story. Asking ALL the right questions.

Basically the main topic was whether the other Swift Boat people would have been considered as "serving" with John Kerry.

Lt Col Bill Cowan who served on a Swift Boat said "Absolutely!" In FACT, someone on another boat might be able to BETTER see what was going on on Kerry's boat than the men on the boat themselves because they have a panoramic view of the scene.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bestseller; brithume; foxnews; hume; kerry; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets
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Also asked about the Vietnam thing. Cowan said there's NO WAY Kerry was in Cambodia on a Swift Boat. Cowan looks 100% in Swiftee's corner.
1 posted on 08/10/2004 3:32:20 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

Yesterday Hume kept saying that it was a matter of character (Kerry's). He's a bit too diplomatic and polite and should just come out and say, this whole thing is a matter of whether Kerry is a liar. That's the important issue for voters.


2 posted on 08/10/2004 3:36:24 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: what's up
I don't know Cowan. How did someone without a Navy rank serve in the swiftboats? Don't flame me, I'm just a groundpounder.
3 posted on 08/10/2004 3:36:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker (shove it!)
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To: colorado tanker

Rassmann was a Green Beret and he was on a navy boat.


4 posted on 08/10/2004 3:37:51 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: All

He missed the fact that Kerry had made a Cambodia claim just last year and it is even on his website. Maybe he his leaving that for one of his All-stars.;)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59559-2003May30_4.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2003_0601.html


5 posted on 08/10/2004 3:38:20 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's floats, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: what's up

NBC Nightly News is resurrecting the Abu Gahrib story.


6 posted on 08/10/2004 3:38:51 PM PDT by Lacey
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To: what's up

NBC Nightly News is resurrecting the Abu Gahrib story.


7 posted on 08/10/2004 3:38:56 PM PDT by Lacey
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To: colorado tanker

I believe he was with the Marines. Possibly in some kind of special ops capacity. As such, he would have operated with all sorts of other units, including swiftboats.


8 posted on 08/10/2004 3:39:44 PM PDT by Klatuu
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To: colorado tanker

Cowan did a wonderful job. He said every swift boat went out in groups. You always knew what was going on in the other boats. He said there was absolutely NO WAY Kerry was in Cambodia when he said he was there. He said the Viet Cong would have sunk the boat inside Cambodia and there would be an international incident. I thought the entire interview was very positive for the Swift Boat Vets.


9 posted on 08/10/2004 3:40:00 PM PDT by Merry
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To: what's up

Just heard them, and without any doubt lends truth to the story. Moveon.com and Sorros are going to try and sink the swift boats and I think we need to do whatever we can to keep them afloat. Kerry is a liar..and if you listened to Hannity's radio show today, you could tell pretty quickly what is happening. I cannot get over the way Kerry makes everything work to his advantage. A horror story for America would be a win for him.


10 posted on 08/10/2004 3:40:18 PM PDT by cousair (k)
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To: what's up

Also the swiftees are highly decorated, long or at least normal tours of duty heroes. I want to know how Kerry gets away with calling his "fellow" highly decorated veterans liars. Aren't they at least as unassailable as Kerry? And there's a lot more of them.


11 posted on 08/10/2004 3:40:31 PM PDT by Williams
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To: colorado tanker

Cowan was a Marine Lt. Col. The Marines are a branch of the Navy.


12 posted on 08/10/2004 3:40:35 PM PDT by thucydides
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To: colorado tanker

Here is a brief bio.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,60314,00.html


13 posted on 08/10/2004 3:41:30 PM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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To: pepperhead

If Brit Hume doesn't mention it, we should email these stories to him to continue the story. We have to keep the story alive.


14 posted on 08/10/2004 3:41:42 PM PDT by hansel
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To: Merry

Aren't the Democrats getting tired of this non stop Abbu Gahraib story. The story involved about 5 soldiers. Good Grief!!!!!


15 posted on 08/10/2004 3:41:43 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Lacey
Abu Grabib, Thy name is desperation.
16 posted on 08/10/2004 3:41:47 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: colorado tanker
LTC Cowan is a retired Marine. If the Navy guys really need to shoot straight, they gotta have somebody around to show them how.

<ducking>

17 posted on 08/10/2004 3:42:13 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: Lacey

Hah! We must be making headway on the Swift Boat Vets story, then, if they're rummaging through the old news to find a subject-changer!


18 posted on 08/10/2004 3:42:16 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Lacey

If Kerry loses, the news organizations, ABC,CBS,NBC and CNN and the New York Times and associate papers intend to bring the prison stuff up again to impeach Bush. Rush has talked about this several times. They don't have anything else and thinks this has legs. It doesn't.


19 posted on 08/10/2004 3:43:01 PM PDT by cousair (k)
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To: Lacey
NBC Nightly News is resurrecting the Abu Gahrib story.

Of course they are.

This is typical Lanny Davis strategy. Get the bad news out there and let people get to hear what liars everyone else is until the bad news is boring.

20 posted on 08/10/2004 3:43:05 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: what's up

With the Olympics coming up in a couple of days, I fear this story will be buried as fast and thoroughly as the Sandy Berger one was with the Dem convention.


21 posted on 08/10/2004 3:43:30 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: what's up
Pics that give good perspective here .
22 posted on 08/10/2004 3:45:15 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: thucydides
The Marines are a branch of the Navy.

Ssshhh. They don't like to be reminded of that. :=)

23 posted on 08/10/2004 3:45:25 PM PDT by Bob
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To: what's up

Brit is the best.......


24 posted on 08/10/2004 3:45:58 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Merry

Cowan indeed did a wonderful job. He did not say "I want to associate myself with their claims" but by the time the interview was over, he had bolster each and every claim.


25 posted on 08/10/2004 3:47:21 PM PDT by Petronski (Kerry doesn't have the courage to come forward and tell the truth.)
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To: Bob
The Marines are a branch of the Navy.

Ssshhh. They don't like to be reminded of that. :=)

Isn't the Navy the Transport wing of the USMC?

26 posted on 08/10/2004 3:47:52 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Mr. Buzzcut

27 posted on 08/10/2004 3:48:13 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: So Cal Rocket; Interesting Times
These pictures are very effective, but the should be rescanned to make them bigger.
28 posted on 08/10/2004 3:49:28 PM PDT by Petronski (Kerry doesn't have the courage to come forward and tell the truth.)
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To: Klatuu

I served in the 164th CAG (Army) out of Can Tho which spported the entire Mekong region with insertion and retrieval, recon, air support, resupply, medavac, etc. We worked closely with the Swift Boats on many occasions. Having Marines on the boats for any shore activities was standard practice. This further undermines Kerry's story of going ashore to dispatch the wounded VC. (Only Captain Kirk left the bridge for such missions)


29 posted on 08/10/2004 3:50:33 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: The Wizard
Brit is the best.......

Yes he is. You wouldn't have thought that last week when FNC bashers came out of the woodwork and slammed just about EVERYONE on Fox. Personally, if it weren't for Fox I would have already slit my wrist.

30 posted on 08/10/2004 3:53:05 PM PDT by hobson
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To: timpad
LOL!

I absolutely agree with Cowan's point about his fellow officers and former chain of command being the best source as to his performance. That would be true for the Army as well. Certainly a better source than green, low-ranking sailors who only saw Kerry for a couple of months. Their view of him probably would have a lot to do with what kind of discipline he enforced.

31 posted on 08/10/2004 3:54:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker (shove it!)
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To: timpad
"LTC Cowan is a retired Marine. If the Navy guys really need to shoot straight, they gotta have somebody around to show them how. " HAaaaaaaaaaahhhh!! HOOAH! Gotta love it:) (Said the Army Mom!)
32 posted on 08/10/2004 3:55:53 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Natural Law

Brit Hume always gets invited to White House functions. He also went sky diving with GHBush. I like him. He's trying to help out GW without looking biased.


33 posted on 08/10/2004 3:55:56 PM PDT by Merry
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To: what's up

Cowan is a good man.


34 posted on 08/10/2004 3:57:29 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Let he who has ears to hear, hear. Support the heroes of the SwiftBoat Vets.)
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To: BonnieJ
Reason the Burglar story fizzled was due to the chicken pubs inability to press charges against him to keep the story alive in the eyes of Americans....:(
Due to the RAT convention they were trying to ONCE again(this is getting old)(REAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL STALE)to play nice! I believe, in the future because of the media's bias, the pubs are going to have to go around the pressWHORES and start buying some air time. This will be the only way to get our SIDE of the story out!
35 posted on 08/10/2004 4:00:01 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Merry

Yeah, well there are some lefties on a football board I belong to who have said Abu Graib is the same as what happened in Vietnam!!!


36 posted on 08/10/2004 4:00:34 PM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: hobson

Fox deserved to be slammed. Everyone but Hannity reviewed this story initially through the lens of politics rather than as an opportunity to bring the American people the Truth.

I've always liked Brit, but he disappointed me last week. He disappointed a number of people that wrote E-mails in defense of these Vets to Fox. That could be partial reason why Fox is changing its tune on this story.


37 posted on 08/10/2004 4:01:06 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: pepperhead
Kerry had made a Cambodia claim just last year and it is even on his website.

Great link.

38 posted on 08/10/2004 4:04:05 PM PDT by syriacus (Let's give a jeer, and 1 jeer more, for the ersatz hero of Swift 94. He IS a flipping man.)
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To: what's up

"Also asked about the Vietnam thing. Cowan said there's NO WAY Kerry was in Cambodia on a Swift Boat. Cowan looks 100% in Swiftee's corner."

So is Sean Hannity. Better watch H&C tonight, John O'Neill will be on the shut Colmes up! Alan Colmes was talking about how dispicable the swiftboat vets are for lying about John Kerry.

Last night O'Reilly kept saying to one of the swiftboat vets "I'm only trying to be fair", I only want to be "fair" here. This gentleman discussed Kerry's lies about being in Cambodia. O'reilly asked "well, is this all that important?" Sheesh.........Well, yeah Bill, it's important!

We need to tell O'Reilly that trying too hard to be "fair" is holding up the truth to be told. O'Reilly is really scared about being tagged as a supporter of these guys. In essence, his attempts at fairness are forcing him to protect Kerry, which means to me that he's chosen his side.

I'm really P-S-ED at O'Reilly!


39 posted on 08/10/2004 4:07:23 PM PDT by libertylass
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To: So Cal Rocket

Grea visual. You should send them to Hume, Hannity, O'Reilly, et al. Maybe they will then understand what is meant by operating together. The SBVFT should carry blown up pictures like these when they are interviewed on TV. We are now a visual culture. Nothing is real until you have a picture or video of it.


40 posted on 08/10/2004 4:07:24 PM PDT by kabar
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To: RoseofTexas

I don't think the Berger story is dead yet. I think he will be indicted soon.


41 posted on 08/10/2004 4:07:59 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry and The Taxocrates must be defeated, Flush the 2 John's)
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To: Soul Seeker
I wasn't pleased with the way they reported the story either. But, the posters that day went on and on about how Fox was no better than CNN, bla, bla, bla. That is just not the case. If you don't like the coverage on a particular day or hour, just wait, they make up for it.

Like today for example, William Lajunesse has been reporting on THK and how her foundation supports enviro groups who are suing the coal industry. He ends the report by describing how she owns 5 houses, SUVs and private jet, which is not exactly enviro friendly. You won't find that reported on CNN.
42 posted on 08/10/2004 4:09:35 PM PDT by hobson
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To: So Cal Rocket

You could also send to the SBVFT website suggesting they bring photos like this when they are interviewed. Very effective in countering the likes of Lanny Davis.


43 posted on 08/10/2004 4:10:02 PM PDT by kabar
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To: So Cal Rocket
Susan Estrich and Lanny Davis should take Chensy's advice to Leahy. These pictures illustrate the actual distance between boats.

The point being that with boats spread out they were MORE vulnerable to ambush. This is not unlike the bomber formations over Europe in WWII. When this close there were able to provide supporting and suppressing fire on multiple targets at once.

44 posted on 08/10/2004 4:10:07 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: colorado tanker
I absolutely agree with Cowan's point about his fellow officers and former chain of command being the best source as to his performance.

Just like any job interview, we should hear from his 'managers' about his 'past job performance', not his subordinates. Since he has made his 'job' in Vietnam the main touchpoint for his so-called personality, their input is essential.

And, as I'm sure you concur, the fact that his entire local chain of command and his relief have publicly denounced him is especially striking. That just doesn't happen. Military officers just don't do that. Unless there is something seriously wrong.

I'm beginning to believe that there is something seriously wrong with LT (j.g.) Kerry. Not that I was going to vote for the SOB to begin with, but now I'm inspired to do all I lawfully can to prevent him from reaching the Presidency.

And on this point, here's something for the Research Division, How many of Kerry's "Band of Brothers" are professional military, as opposed to his detractors?
45 posted on 08/10/2004 4:10:36 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: what's up
I don't hold anything against Dave Chapell... Why should I hold anything against Corsi? Because he is white he can not hold an opinion and tell jokes? Since when is a man unable to speak freely about the crap pumped out by the popular culture including our pop culture pope and our pop culture religions?

I support all freedom of speech.... communist like John Kerry do not.

46 posted on 08/10/2004 4:11:48 PM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: timpad

Good question. Anyone have a list of those people?


47 posted on 08/10/2004 4:13:42 PM PDT by hobson
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To: colorado tanker

How did someone without a Navy rank serve in the swiftboats? *

Lt. Col. Marines. Marines are known to work with the Navy.
Living in San Diego I see this all the time.


48 posted on 08/10/2004 4:14:57 PM PDT by SoCalPol (FLUSH THE JOHNS '04)
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To: Bob

Actually, the Marines are a projectile to be launched by the Navy..


49 posted on 08/10/2004 4:15:57 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: colorado tanker
Anybody have a head count of how many guys served under Kerry (on his boat) during the 4 months, as opposed to those who served with him (officers & crew of other boats in the same area, along with officers up Kerry's chain of command)? Were all the guys who appeared onstage in Boston (other than Rasmussen) members of Kerry's crew? Is it possible that that group represents nearly everybody who was on Kerry's boat (crew or passenger) at any time during the 4 months? I've read that most of K's crew support him while his peers and superior officers oppose him.
50 posted on 08/10/2004 4:16:31 PM PDT by xlib
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