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CA: Immigrants Rally For Driver's License Bill - Accuses Gov. Of Dragging Feet
TheKCRAChannel ^ | August 10, 2004

Posted on 08/10/2004 7:42:04 PM PDT by calcowgirl

Immigrants Rally For Driver's License Bill
Group Accuses Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger Of Dragging Feet

POSTED: 4:15 pm PDT August 9, 2004
UPDATED: 8:26 am PDT August 10, 2004

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Backers of a measure to give California driver's licenses to illegal residents are running out of patience and time.

Immigrant groups turned up the heat on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger Monday, marching at the state Capitol and accusing the governor of dragging his feet on a promise to support a driver's license bill for non-citizens.

"We do want what everybody who comes to America (wants), like you did, governor," said Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles.

Cedillo was the author of a law that granted illegal immigrants a California driver's license. The law was signed last year by former Gov. Gray Davis, but it was repealed. Now Cedillo says it's time for Schwarzenegger to agree on a replacement bill.

"We have a bill that strengthens national security, strengthens highway and community safety, and promotes citizenship. Now is the time for him to do this, and do so in a nondiscriminatory way," Cedillo said.

"He (Schwarzenegger) wants to try and find a solution to this, but he has very serious concerns about homeland security," said Schwarzenegger spokesman Vince Solitto.

Schwarzenegger is said to be looking at a proposal that would provide ID cards with a mark differing from a regular license, but he's facing strong opposition from members of his own party.

"In my opinion, it's not solvable. I think they shouldn't be here in the first place, and we shouldn't be giving them any form of driver's license," said Senate Republican leader Dick Ackerman.

"They are in this country in violation of federal immigration laws. Federal law requires they be deported. It's that simple," said Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Thousand Oaks.

But supporters of the bill say it's not that simple because California's economy is tied to jobs that are held by illegal residents. Peter Camejo, who is Ralph Nader's running mate on the Independent presidential ticket, says Schwarzenegger should do "the right thing."

"I think Arnold would actually gain politically. Because what I think it would show is, he's thinking independently. And when he makes a deal, he keeps his side of it," Camejo said.

If a deal isn't struck by the end of the month, it will be dead for the year. Cedillo says he's still focusing on getting an agreement with the governor before seeking a vote in the Legislature. But the current session ends on Aug. 31.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; cedillo; deport; driverslicense; sb1160; sb60; schwarzenegger
Keep dragging those feet Arnold... or better yet, use them to STOMP OUT Cedillo!
1 posted on 08/10/2004 7:42:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge; farmfriend; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; Ernest_at_the_Beach; PeoplesRep_of_LA; ...
Cedillo Ping... I don't have a good ping list, so pass it on.

LegInfo - SB 1160

Status HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, August 12, 2004

History

2 posted on 08/10/2004 7:44:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

and kick Camejo in the arse too, while he's at it. ;-)


3 posted on 08/10/2004 7:44:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Proud member of the FR Special Ops manuremovers crew .. moving manure&opinion since '96)
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To: calcowgirl

Its amazing people who break the law are running out of patience. Liberalism is a mental illness.


4 posted on 08/10/2004 7:46:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl

I am glad to see some recognition of Arnold's strategery from you. :)

As some of us kept saying, Arnold knows what he is doing, and he is on our side.


5 posted on 08/10/2004 7:46:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: B4Ranch; madfly; FITZ; Reaganwuzthebest; hsmomx3; Joe Hadenuf; 4Freedom; Ajnin; Marine Inspector; ..

Ping!


6 posted on 08/10/2004 7:51:09 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: calcowgirl

No special rules need to be created for people visiting (legally or illegally) the U.S.

If you have a drivers license in your home country and want to drive in the country you are visiting, you simply get an international drivers license in your home country before you leave.

If they want the drivers license for any other reason than to drive, like pretending to be a citizen, or to vote, giving it to them will certainly help them in their effort.


7 posted on 08/10/2004 8:03:18 PM PDT by trueamerica
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To: FairOpinion

I'm hoping... but not necessarily hopeful. Time will tell.

I prefer honesty. To believe in his supposed "strategery" (as you put it), I have to accept that he is lying. I don't like that one bit.

Don't even try to tell me he is on "our side"... because "my side" was against the bonds, against excessive spending, against the conservancy he is pushing, etc. etc. etc. If that is "your side", it is different than mine.


8 posted on 08/10/2004 8:04:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion
"They are in this country in violation of federal immigration laws.

Federal law requires they be deported. It's that simple"

9 posted on 08/10/2004 8:07:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Arnold is not lying, you just have to listen to him very carefully.

The bonds were necessary to avoid bankruptcy, the spending is the result of the Dem Legislature. You noticed that Arnold wants to cut government significantly, saving $32 BILLION over 5 years.

I don't like his expressed stand on the conservancy either, but I think he will wise up, before doing anything about it.


10 posted on 08/10/2004 8:07:43 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: calcowgirl

Yeah some big march I went out and watched it. The libs are usually pretty good at getting out a crowd but this was the weeniest effort I've seen lately. Maybe fifty people.

They are losing steam on this one.


11 posted on 08/10/2004 8:13:27 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Oh , the agony.

tee hee hee


12 posted on 08/10/2004 8:15:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Proud member of the FR Special Ops manuremovers crew .. moving manure&opinion since '96)
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To: calcowgirl

U.S. to Give Border Patrol New Powers to Deport Illegal Aliens
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189003/posts

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday it will speed up deportations of certain illegal immigrants from countries other than Mexico to improve U.S. border security.

Mexicans are already sent back immediately, and the faster deportations already have been in use at seaports, airports and land immigration checkpoints in the United States since 1997. Hutchinson said the change would expand their use to those apprehended along the U.S. border.


13 posted on 08/10/2004 8:17:34 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

GREAT News! Thanks!


14 posted on 08/10/2004 8:21:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion
Mexicans are already sent back immediately...

More than 25% of the population in LA County Jail are illegals.
You're telling me none of these are Mexican? ROFL... Yeah, right.

15 posted on 08/10/2004 8:24:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Schwarzenegger is said to be looking at a proposal that would provide ID cards with a mark differing from a regular license, but he's facing strong opposition from members of his own party..."it's not solvable...They are in this country in violation of federal immigration laws. Federal law requires they be deported. It's that simple,"

Until the Federal government gets a round tuit what do you do in the meantime? Hopefully Arnold will hold out and let Cedillo pound sand. Otherwise he could do like Tennessee and issue driver's certificates. It gives the illegal abettors, er, advocates what they're literally asking for: a document to drive with. What it doesn't give them is what they really want: virtual citizenship. Tennessee's illegals are hopping mad with no further recourse but liberal judges, but our state AG has one heck of an argument:

"A lawyer with the state attorney general's office has asked a judge to throw the case out of court. Among the state's arguments are that if the plaintiffs are legal immigrants, their rights aren't being violated by being asked to get certificates because they have access to other legitimate immigration identification. Only illegal immigrants would have the right to sue the state over the law, the state argues. But if the plaintiffs are illegal immigrants, the suit should be thrown out because, the state argues, they don't have the right to get a license or state identification anyway."

Cedillo can think about that while the Governator shoves one of these down his throat-


16 posted on 08/10/2004 8:26:51 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: FairOpinion

Fair... what did you think about the Boxer/Jones debate tonight?


17 posted on 08/10/2004 8:33:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

The demands of these La Raza supporters are a slap in the face of every immigrant who came here LEGALLY.


18 posted on 08/10/2004 8:37:33 PM PDT by Kuksool (Get Your Souls To The Polls In November)
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To: calcowgirl

I didn't have a chance to watch or listen to it.

I hate Boxer, I wish we could get rid of her.


19 posted on 08/10/2004 8:44:25 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

They can rally all they want but the got no RIGHTS end of story!!!! Except that is to be deported ASAP!!!!!


20 posted on 08/10/2004 8:48:18 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

It sounds as if TN has figured it out. Illegals don't have rights, legal citizens do. With the certificate though, they are being appeased, but being limited. There's got to be a catch though...there usually is when something sounds too good to be true.


21 posted on 08/10/2004 9:12:03 PM PDT by conservativeteach
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I notice the very first thing they mention on that card, right at the very top... IS SEX!!!

The lady pictured on that card was fillin out her application and came to the question: "Sex... M or F?"

She proceeded to answer as follows: "F! I haven't M'ed in years!!!"

22 posted on 08/10/2004 9:12:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
"We do want what everybody who comes to America (wants), like you did, governor," said Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles."

What part of NO don't you and your outlaw follow understand... dipstalk!!!

Why don'tcha do right... get outa here and get back at the end of the line and earn your danged citizenship LEGALLY like EVERYBODY ELSE!!! NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

23 posted on 08/10/2004 9:19:34 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

outlaw follow = outlaw following


24 posted on 08/10/2004 9:21:40 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

>>I hate Boxer, I wish we could get rid of her.

YEEEEEE HAAAAAA... Something we AGREE on! :-)


25 posted on 08/10/2004 9:29:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
"In my opinion, it's not solvable. I think they shouldn't be here in the first place, and we shouldn't be giving them any form of driver's license," said Senate Republican leader Dick Ackerman.

"They are in this country in violation of federal immigration laws. Federal law requires they be deported. It's that simple," said Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Thousand Oaks.

See Dick and Tom hit the nail on the head!

Hang tough Arnold. These CRIMINAL aliens need to be gone.

26 posted on 08/10/2004 9:41:46 PM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: upchuck
See Dick and Tom hit the nail on the head!

ROFL!!! :-)

27 posted on 08/10/2004 10:07:43 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: upchuck
Worth Bumping.

"In my opinion, it's not solvable. I think they shouldn't be here in the first place, and we shouldn't be giving them any form of driver's license," said Senate Republican leader Dick Ackerman.

"They are in this country in violation of federal immigration laws. Federal law requires they be deported. It's that simple," said Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Thousand Oaks.


28 posted on 08/10/2004 10:23:58 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: SierraWasp
She proceeded to answer as follows: "F! I haven't M'ed in years!!!"

(After pondering for 10 minutes)
Oh, lesbian joke! I've got to get out more.

29 posted on 08/10/2004 10:35:38 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus

You still haven't got it!!! It ain't no lesbo joke!!! Ha Ha Ha...


30 posted on 08/10/2004 11:01:58 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

MEGABUMP !!!


31 posted on 08/11/2004 2:56:19 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes ("Benedict Arnold used to be a "war hero" too ...before he became a Traitor.")
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To: calcowgirl

Amen to that! Arnie is not on the side of conservative; he is a phony Rino and a socialist/marxist at his core. who was it that posted that he had a statue of Lenin in his office? Even a superficial study of Arnie's positions and backers reveal his true colors.. FairOpinion, nobody here is buying the bull you're trying to sell.


He called anyone who's against cloning a religious nut; he said only 'right wing whackos' are for prop 54; Marc Leno thanked arnie publicly for his support of the homo-union bill. All the bonds did was paper over debt and uselessly burdened generations to come with bilions in interest payments to his new york banker buddies.; the bonds were in NO WAY 'necessary'. he's for gun control, he's said it numerous times; he believes illegal invaders should stay here and be provided with a socialist utopia of benefits. his most recent scheme is to let papa govt steal 75% of punitive awards from plantiffs for the collectivist 'common good'. seriously, man- who are you trying to fool here? give me a break w/ this stuff.
you sound like one of his PR mouthpeices. do you work for him, seriously.(?)


He is going to sign this license bill. let's just get it over with. the only thing that would stop him is if they already have decided on a plan to come up w/ a national id card; which Bush/Kerry will introduce when they sign FTAA in January.


32 posted on 08/11/2004 3:12:54 AM PDT by MindFire
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To: MindFire
...who was it that posted that he had a statue of Lenin in his office?

It's been mentioned by quite a few people.

Variety, May 5, 2003 v390 i12 pS32(7)

Schwarzenegger’s sprawling office within his company, Oak Prods., contains busts of Lenin, Reagan and John E Kennedy (whom Schwarzenegger admired, he says, even before marrying Maria Shriver, JFK’s niece). A group of bodybuilders from St. Petersburg brought the 3-foot Lenin head into the U.S. after the Soviet Union dissolved and presented it to Schwarzenegger. The next year, they wanted to top themselves.

“When they unveiled (a bust of) Stalin, I said no. I had to explain to them why,” he says. “Lenin was not as evil. He was just in the right place at the right time. But Stalin was evil. He was a dictator beyond belief. There were questions of who was more evil, Hitler or him.”

For the record, there are no plans for a Saddam Hussein statue in the Oak offices. “Saddam didn’t start anything great,” he says. “But Lenin started communism and the whole Karl Marx thing. He started something that lasted 70-something years.”


33 posted on 08/11/2004 9:09:40 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: TLI

Thanks for the bump!


34 posted on 08/11/2004 11:05:32 AM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: calcowgirl

oh my gosh.,. that is PRICELESS!!! all this time i've been referring to him as a Marxist in ideology,.. and i never even KNEW about this- but i know a rat when i see a trap, cheese and droppings. good grief!


35 posted on 08/11/2004 11:18:11 AM PDT by MindFire
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To: MindFire

Priceless? I find it frightening :-(


36 posted on 08/11/2004 11:36:29 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
WOOOO HOOOO! Finally he is just getting this charade OVER with! I have said it all along,.. we've known it all along, havent we? I posted it numerous times here,.. fellow freepers even heard my call to john and Ken's show when john scoffed and hung up on me when i told him Arnie IS going to sign sb1160.,.. he claimed i 'don't know how the system works'.. LMFAO!! Deluded, mesmerized fools.

people need to know more about the ideology of candidates. they need to comprehend their world view. They need to read and research. but instead, they just listen to 'fancy rhetoric' and celebrity propaganda fed to them by the compliant press.

They need to research the issues and support men of principle.... oh that's right .. those men 'can't win'! ;-D

don't you see, cal.. the people of CA DESERVE this. i for one am glad to be vindicated. It's going to be very rewarding to say 'told ya so',. these brain dead lobotamized mesmerized MORONS. UGGGgh! ----------------------------------

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/10333600p-11253697c.html

Sacramento Bee
Schwarzenegger turns into 'girlie man' on new Prop. 187

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Tuesday that he is unlikely to support a push by some fellow Republicans to bar the Legislature from granting driver's licenses to undocumented workers in California and to cut off their access to government subsidies for housing, food and higher education. -- "We should find ways to work together rather than to find ways of going the other way," he said


Yahoo!!

37 posted on 08/11/2004 12:47:52 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: MindFire

Also Posted at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189454/posts

A sit-down with the governor (CA gov. Arnold amends his positions on illegals' services)

"Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Tuesday that he is unlikely to support a push by some fellow Republicans to bar the Legislature from granting driver's licenses to undocumented workers in California and to cut off their access to government subsidies for housing, food and higher education. "


38 posted on 08/11/2004 2:50:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

The whole drivers license is a sham by the activists --- California accepts the Mexican drivers licenses. Let them continue to show their Mexican drivers license when pulled over --- Texas does the same.


39 posted on 08/11/2004 4:31:26 PM PDT by FITZ
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