Posted on 08/11/2004 4:42:39 AM PDT by tjwmason
British scientists have been given permission to perform therapeutic cloning on human embryos for the first time.
The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority granted the licence to experts at the University of Newcastle.
They are investigating new treatments for conditions including diabetes, Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.
The controversial decision could open a new era of research by scientists looking for remedies for diseases.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
This is breaking news, more should emerge later.
I'm still waiting for the Kobe Tai clone I ordered.
the shop is running slow, I'm waiting for my liza harper model..
Is there a people shortage nobody told me about? Anyone who makes a clone should be forced to sit in the worst place that has the heaviest rush hour traffic.
Cloning is so monstruous. It is obvious that the clone will be mentaly and physicaly inferior to the original test subject, unless healing mechanism of genes is first understood.... a technology we can learn already on the treatment of the naturaly geneticaly ill... and this last one is where real funding should actualy go to... and not to the manufacture of slaves.
The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority aka The Embryonic Humans Manufacturing Association.
Looks like cannibalism is coming back into social acceptability over there.
This is only a benefit to mankind if every other clone is Keira Knightley.
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About three years ago I listened to a call in radio show on the subject of human cloning. About half of the callers (and yes, this was a conservative talk program) actually believe that the clone would have no soul - ergo, subhuman - ergo, can be used at will.
Well that certainly is my intent.
That is a problem. By the time my Kobe clone is delivered, I'll be to old to care.
I can't wait for the first human bio-ranch to open up. I can't wait for the first trumpet to blow...
I believe the Catholic Church's position is that even clones would have souls. They may have un-unique DNA structure, but that says nothing about the spiritual aspect (the soul). Identical twins have identical DNA, but we accept that each has a soul...
I'm not Catholic, but it seems anyone with any sense would see that a human being is a human being. But then, I'm just one of those whacky pro-lifers.
While I am against man acting as God, it does raise an interesting theological question. Can man ensoul another?
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However, as far as theological arguments, I can only speculate that human cloning will be as popular with God as Nimrod's tower.
Yet God "knits together in the womb", not in a petrie dish. There is more to creating life than just combining the ingredients, and this is confirmed repeatedly in God's Word.
Interesting book I read about a doctor who took a few of Pres. Kennedy's cells while he was dying at Bethesda hospital and created a clone: Joshua, Son of None.
The doctor even went as far as recreating many events in the president's life for the clone experience as he was growing up. Good book.
Professor Jack Scarisbrick of the pro-life charity Life, called the HFEA's decision "deplorable". "We are all in favour of conquering terrible diseases. But we do not need cloning to do so. Stem cells taken from adults are likely to be just as good, if not better." Josephine Quintavalle, of the pro-life group Comment On Reproductive Ethics, told the BBC: "It is very worrying indeed. "We have decisions of this magnitude being taken by an unelected government quango." She added: "No human life should be sacrificed for the benefit of anybody else, no matter how dramatic the promises are.
Enter...the Brave New World...
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"... a technology we can learn already on the treatment of the naturaly geneticaly ill... and this last one is where real funding should actualy go to... and not to the manufacture of slaves." Sorry to have to reveal this but the clones are to be tissue sources for treating their elder twin, not allowed to grow old enough to breath outside of a woman's body. What these 'scientists' are undertaking is nothing less than cannibalism. Brave new world indeed! The British Isles are not a place I would venture to when this begins ... 'it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.'
You are right. Canibalism is both against God and science - associated disease (CJD) and what not. However, slave cells cloned cannot be as good as the original ones. It's like fixing a good but old tire with lower quality tires.
The best way to continue as a people is indeed by letting the born be born as perfect as they come out, and not patch some smoking selfdrugging moraly, financialy, spiritualy and physicaly bunch of people.
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