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E-Mail from Camp Kerry - "Swift Boat Veterans for Bush"
http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html ^ | 8-11-04 | Mary Beth Cahill

Posted on 08/11/2004 10:06:44 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Dear Oxen,

I'm interrupting John Kerry's dispatches from the road to tell you about something that will make you angry, but which is important for you to hear.

We knew it was coming: the Bush campaign and several allied right-wing groups are using August to launch a vicious smear attack against John Kerry. They think we're vulnerable this month because while George Bush is still able to raise money for attack ads, Kerry had to stop fundraising at the Democratic convention last week. They're taking this opportunity to go for the jugular.

We need you to join us in this fight today by supporting the Democratic Party.

https://www.democrats.org/support/kerry.html

The worst of the current wave of attacks is coming from a Republican-funded group called "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth." (I'll call them by a more accurate name: Swift Boat Veterans for Bush.) The group is led by a longtime Republican operative and financed by GOP contributors with strong ties to George Bush. Its function in the overall Republican strategy is this: tear down John Kerry since Bush has no record or vision to run on.

The swift boat ad is full of lies. Thirteen men who never served with John Kerry lie about knowing him and viciously attack his record. It is a new low for the Republicans.

Every time they have attacked us like this, it has only made us stronger. When they ran dishonest attack ads (like the unbelievable new one on the air right now), thousands of new supporters flocked to our campaign to give us the resources we need to fight back on the airwaves.

Now that the general election has begun, they're hoping things are different. They're going to be sorely disappointed because we are not alone. The Democratic National Committee is well prepared to take on this fight.

And therefore I'm asking you: everything you did for our campaign, please do now for our Democratic Party. Give the party the resources it needs to fight against these right-wing attacks:

https://www.democrats.org/support/kerry.html

The Democratic Party is responsible for putting organizers and volunteers into the field and turning out the millions of votes we need to win. We literally cannot win this election without the party.

https://www.democrats.org/support/kerry.html

You and I know that if we so much as yield an inch to George Bush and the Republicans this month, we'll live to regret it. In fact, we may live to regret it for four long years. Join with me in supporting the Democratic Party today.

Thank you,

Mary Beth Cahill Campaign Manager

Paid for by Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc.


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1 posted on 08/11/2004 10:06:46 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

I hope some smart reporter takes this letter and throws it back in the face of the DNC, who is in bed with George Soror, MoveOn, and Michael Moore.


2 posted on 08/11/2004 10:08:18 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...

PING......................


3 posted on 08/11/2004 10:08:30 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
"The swift boat ad is full of lies."

Then where is the lawsuit?

4 posted on 08/11/2004 10:09:24 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: OXENinFLA
The swift boat ad is full of lies. Thirteen men who never served with John Kerry lie about knowing him and viciously attack his record. It is a new low for the Republicans.

Cripes, they even lie to each other!

5 posted on 08/11/2004 10:09:46 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: OXENinFLA

All of these men served with Kerry. The libeling continues...


6 posted on 08/11/2004 10:10:03 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Kerry lied and if elected people will die.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Translation : "The Republicans are hurting us. Send Money."


7 posted on 08/11/2004 10:10:26 AM PDT by leadpencil1 (Somewhere in Massachusetts, a village is missing their DORK)
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To: rintense

Wow...speechless.


8 posted on 08/11/2004 10:10:30 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: OXENinFLA

bump


9 posted on 08/11/2004 10:10:35 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: CaptRon

Useful idiots are Koolaid drinkers.

They should have run Jim Jones instead. OH wait, he is dead, they need his 6 votes.


10 posted on 08/11/2004 10:11:51 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("If you control the information given to society, you control society. ")
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To: SE Mom
Republican-funded group called "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth."

Prove it!

11 posted on 08/11/2004 10:12:22 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

sounds like a squeal of pain to me... pain, and a bit of despair.


12 posted on 08/11/2004 10:12:29 AM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: SE Mom

Of course, Cahill doesn't mention that TaRAYza also has questionable ties, specifically with environmental groups. FNC did a great piece about this yesterday, stating that her foundations have given tons of money to environmental groups, three of which publically slammed Bush AFTER receiving money from her. Naturally, the Dems on the report brushed it off.


13 posted on 08/11/2004 10:13:05 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: OXENinFLA
The group is led by a longtime Republican operative and financed by GOP contributors with strong ties to George Bush. Its function in the overall Republican strategy is this: tear down John Kerry since Bush has no record or vision to run on.

This is priceless. Anybody who points out obvious falsehoods on the part of the Kerry campaign is 'a Republican operative' and 'financed by the GOP'.

14 posted on 08/11/2004 10:13:24 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

SBVFT ping!


15 posted on 08/11/2004 10:13:40 AM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Isn't this coordination? This is an email directly from the Kerry campaign asking it's supporters to send money to the party..so the party can fight these ads.

Sounds like coordination to me.


16 posted on 08/11/2004 10:15:21 AM PDT by tonyinv (Dick Cheney can be President. - President Bush)
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To: OXENinFLA
A pack of lies from the dimocraps, what else is new? I was looking for coverage on this issue this morning on the cable news channels and haven't seen any - the media is giving a shot at burying the truth - again, what else is new?

Contrast it to the frantic feeding frenzy over Bush's ANG service.

17 posted on 08/11/2004 10:15:55 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: tonyinv
Sounds like coordination to me.

Yup, me too.....

18 posted on 08/11/2004 10:16:56 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

ANother permutation of the liberal perspective on Free Speech.

Speech if only free if you agree with me. If you don't agree with me, anything you say is hate speech.


19 posted on 08/11/2004 10:17:04 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: IamConservative

maybe she was in cambodia- but i don't think the charges have been answered.


20 posted on 08/11/2004 10:19:25 AM PDT by genghis
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To: OXENinFLA
Yo John....disprove the charges!
21 posted on 08/11/2004 10:20:29 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: OXENinFLA

Democrats attacking Vietnam Veterans. Talk about a flashback from the sixties.

It sounds like the Democrats are in a tough positIon: either defend John Kerry and call combat veterans liars - thereby damaging their 'spin' on the party qualified to handle the nation's security. Or let the charges stand, and risk finding out that Kerry might have lied.

I'm glad W. stayed out of this fray. Civilians attacking political opponents' combat experience risk alienating non-partisans. By and large, folks don't like to see combat vets attacked, no matter what their political idealogy.

That's what you get for making Vietnam the centeral issue of the campaign.


22 posted on 08/11/2004 10:20:47 AM PDT by GeorgiaMike
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To: OXENinFLA

why would you recieve this letter? are you a registered democrat in Florida?


23 posted on 08/11/2004 10:22:53 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Democrat=lights off and everyone home)
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To: anniegetyourgun

My liberal friend has been asking the same question about the Bush "AWOL story". I can't wait to throw this one back in his face.


24 posted on 08/11/2004 10:22:54 AM PDT by jayef
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To: OXENinFLA

me three!


25 posted on 08/11/2004 10:23:15 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: OXENinFLA
Lies are the only way the Kerry Kampaign can defend him.

The Swift Boat veterans charges are much more damning than the AWOL fiction in that THESE charges have have eyewitnesses and at least some documentation to back them up. Like the Christmas in Cambodia story Hanoi John boy dreamed up and "seared" into his memory.

26 posted on 08/11/2004 10:24:07 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb

Release your military records, Lietenant (jg) Mitty!


27 posted on 08/11/2004 10:24:11 AM PDT by jayef
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To: jayef

the next line from the libs is that it's time to start talking about records & issues ... which it will be, starting with the convention. Until then we should discuss why John Kerry campaign has denied he was ever in Cambodia and why their further explanation has not been forthcoming!


28 posted on 08/11/2004 10:25:05 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: OXENinFLA

bump


29 posted on 08/11/2004 10:25:07 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: OXENinFLA

Reply and tell them that they have Soros and moveon.org...and they should quit being so desperate.


30 posted on 08/11/2004 10:25:37 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: King Prout

Maybe true Patriots and all veterans are starting to pay some attention to this. I think when the socialists start attacking these veterans, it is going to back fire on them. Only their fellow socialists will pay any attention. Veterans will start to wonder about this guy's claims of being such a hero. Maybe it will turn the tide. However, the Swifties are in for a very rough ride, but I bet they knew that already before they started.


31 posted on 08/11/2004 10:26:40 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The time is coming for all true Patriots to rise up and take back this Republic!)
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To: rintense

Remember how much we hated the Clintons and their minions?


32 posted on 08/11/2004 10:27:02 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: OXENinFLA

"Every time they have attacked us like this, it has only made us stronger. When they ran dishonest attack ads (like the unbelievable new one on the air right now), thousands of new supporters flocked to our campaign to give us the resources we need to fight back on the airwaves."


"IF" they are so strong why are they sending out SOS's!!!!

Hey "Mary Beth Cahill Campaign Manager", you can't cover up JFKERRY's lies, its on the record and this is not political this is PERSONAL.



33 posted on 08/11/2004 10:27:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: rintense
I hope some smart reporter takes this letter and throws it back in the face of the DNC, who is in bed with George Soror, MoveOn, and Michael Moore.

Was that meant to be a joke? I hope you aren't holding your breath.

34 posted on 08/11/2004 10:27:35 AM PDT by blanknoone (Do you live up to your screen name?)
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To: OXENinFLA

35 posted on 08/11/2004 10:27:56 AM PDT by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: tonyinv
"Isn't this coordination? This is an email directly from the Kerry campaign asking it's supporters to send money to the party..so the party can fight these ads.

Sounds like coordination to me."

Sound like coordination to me, too.

I thought that this sort of coordination was outlawed by the Campaign Finance Reform (sic) Act.

And I also thought that most of the support for that Act came from Democrats.

Where, oh where, is the outrage from Democrats??

36 posted on 08/11/2004 10:28:15 AM PDT by chs68
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To: Zavien Doombringer
why would you recieve this letter?

I'm signed up for JF'nK e-mail blasts.

"Know your enemy."

37 posted on 08/11/2004 10:30:04 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

They can see the writing on the wall... ROFLMAO!!


38 posted on 08/11/2004 10:30:22 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Look, in the interest of good government and in a spirit of bipartisianship, I'm sending a donation to the Kerry campaign. Of course, it won't be as much as I'd like to give since high taxes take much of what I have. Nevertheless, I'm going to tighten the old belt a notch or two and send Senator Kerry my 2 cents. It's the least I can do.

DNC
430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington DC 20003.

39 posted on 08/11/2004 10:35:34 AM PDT by catpuppy (Vote For Fightin' John Kerry ... unless you care about your country)
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To: OXENinFLA
If I (serving in 2nd platoon) went on operations with the 1st platoon in my company (Co.D)

Is it a "True Statement" that I served with..(alongside)...members of 2nd platoon and 1st
platoon on operations in RVN?...I'd say yes...

The 'good' Swift Boat' veterans served alongside Kerry's boat on many operations...Swift Boats did not usually operate alone...they went in small groups..sometimes two boats sometimes more

It was on such operations...(Swift boats alongside each other) that the members of one crew could easily observe the actions of each other...talk back and forth on the radio or simply by hollering at each other..

When things were quiet I have observed PBRs tying up together and the crews of each boat
interacting...

Kerry hates the fact that he was observed by honest witnesses ..good men...either doing he things he now denies or not doing the things he claims he did...

Kerry was observed by these 'Good Swift Boat Vets"....these honest good men...are RELIABLE EYE WITNESSES TO KERRY'S ACTIONS....these are just the kinds of men that would be called as reliable witnesses in any trial to determine what the truth of any matter is.....

Any honest jury would be compelled to make decisions as to guilt or innocence based upon the testimony...based upon the testimony of such good and honest men....

If all these gentlemen say Kerry is a liar....and a fraud...You Can Pretty Much Take THAT To The Bank

imo
40 posted on 08/11/2004 10:36:35 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: catpuppy
DNC
41 posted on 08/11/2004 10:36:49 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Reply to them with this....tell them you can't support someone who continues to insult the Guard and Reserves.

The Daveman Speaks Out
Aug. 8, 2004
Kerry’s Convention Speech Insulted Guard and Reserve Members

Anyone listening to local talk radio in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, on the Monday after the Democratic National Convention, might have sensed the tone of anger coming from local Vets and Troops of the Guard and Reserve. During one segment of a morning talk show, callers voiced their anger with Kerry’s speech. The callers were angry with a statement that offended both troops, and their supporters alike.

The host had been mentioning part of the speech when the fireworks began. First, one caller who had an association with the National Guard, then others. And none seemed too pleased with the Flip Flop master. As a matter of fact, they were down right ticked off. After speaking with many who have served in the Guard and Reserves, I can assure you that the anger is wide spread.

The statement that offended so many who have served with honor?
“And we will end the backdoor draft of National Guard and Reservists.”

The line is in a portion of Kerry’s speech where he refers to the military. Not the portion in which he refers to his service in Vietnam. Although I must admit that it would be a common guess since he announced that ‘breaking information’ to us every two minutes of his droning 55 minute speech. Instead, it appeared in the portion where he suggested how he would handle current military situations.

When looking at the statement, one must wonder what, in the wide, wide world of French Euro trash, was Kerry thinking? Does part one of the John Johns not realize that the statement belittles many of those who serve and have served our great nation? Our troops of the Reserves and Guard have been much more than a “backdoor draft” in the war on terror. They have been honorable warriors who have helped protect our freedom and liberate millions from tyranny.

Kerry’s intent was obvious. He thought that he could play on the emotions and stress of our troops who have been deployed over the past few years. The fact that Kerry would have that mind set is evidence that his intent was also insulting. Kerry should understand that our troops are as mentally tough as they are brave. They are not the types who sit around trying to figure out what opportunities will get them home in four months.

It is not just the line in his convention speech that has angered Guard and Reserve troops. It has been his whole attitude towards them. Kerry and his surrogates have had nothing good to say about President Bush’s National Guard service. In statements referring to the President’s hitch in the Air Guard, Kerry’s surrogates have gone as far as to compare Vietnam era Guard service with actions some people took to avoid going to Vietnam.

Kerry’s insulting statements about the National Guard show a lack of knowledge in regards to the capabilities of the that branch of the military. For example, we know that many Air Guard pilots went to Vietnam through the Palace Alert program. There is also the issue of F-102 pilots dying state side. It shows how fighter pilots need not go overseas to sacrifice their lives in defense of their nation. Then there is the fact that the National Guard has the front line combat units.

Kerry must also realize that service members need not be in a front line combat position, or even in a war time theater, to be considered brave. The simple fact that they would sign up for a career, in which they know very well that they could be sent into a war at any time, makes them all heroes. There were many soldiers who wanted to go to Vietnam, but were sent to Germany and other stations. That does not make their service less honorable.

Kerry has insulted our National Guard and Reserve troops. He has done this while playing politics and that is telling. What’s even more telling is Kerry’s lack of knowledge in regards to America’s Active, Reserve, and National Guard military missions. Just more evidence of why John Kerry is unfit to be Commander in Chief.


42 posted on 08/11/2004 10:38:24 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: OXENinFLA

BINGO!


43 posted on 08/11/2004 10:44:45 AM PDT by catpuppy (Vote For Fightin' John Kerry ... unless you care about your country)
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To: Steven W.
Until then we should discuss why John Kerry campaign has denied he was ever in Cambodia and why their further explanation has not been forthcoming!

Memories just don't sear like they used to...

44 posted on 08/11/2004 10:45:06 AM PDT by talleyman (John Kerry: The Manurian Candidate)
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To: OXENinFLA
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Great strategy!

I was getting worried thought

45 posted on 08/11/2004 10:46:52 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Democrat=lights off and everyone home)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Dude, I am on the local commie's e-mail list with a spammable e-mail address for just that purpose, it's how we find out when they're marching so we can FREEP 'em...

How else do you find out what the rats are up to?

46 posted on 08/11/2004 10:47:22 AM PDT by wolicy_ponk (George W. Bush - LET'S ROLL! --------------------- John F. Kerry - Let's Roll over...)
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To: wolicy_ponk

Well, I was getting all my info on here. I was trusting you guys. I couldn't bear getting spammed by the dems, I went to DU and signed up, I couldn't stand it. I got to 9 posts before I was banned....


47 posted on 08/11/2004 10:49:58 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Democrat=lights off and everyone home)
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To: Zavien Doombringer; All; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; ...

SWIFT VET ---- ON RUSH!


48 posted on 08/11/2004 10:51:12 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

>The swift boat ad is full of lies. Thirteen men who never served with John Kerry lie about >knowing him and viciously attack his record.

Yesterday A.M. "News Radio" WTAM 1100 read a brief piece about the SwiftVets and used the same line about the men not serving with Kerry. I called the newsroom and read them the riot act,(politely of course). Turns out that it was from the A.P. I told him that the SwiftVets did INDEAD serve with Kerry, they hunted in packs. The newsguy said "is the A.P. lying?" "Sounds to me like all they are doing is parroting Democrat talking points", I said.

Even if there was no agenda on the part of WTAM, there was no attempt on their part to do a little fact checking. Their attitude seems to be "if it was good enough for A.P. that's all that matters.


49 posted on 08/11/2004 10:54:10 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (W.W.P.D.? - What Would Patton Do?)
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To: OXENinFLA
"Thirteen men who never served with John Kerry lie about knowing him and viciously attack his record."

Hey Mary Beth, this statement of yours is an absolute bald-faced lie, and you know it. Those men did serve with Kerry and they know him well, and you know these facts. You're the liar here along with your wacky, irresponsible, undisciplined candidate. Take your lies and hit the road sweetie.

50 posted on 08/11/2004 10:54:26 AM PDT by carl in alaska (I am not a digital brownshirt. I had a brown shirt once, but my dog chewed it up.)
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