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INSTAPUNDIT HAS PICTURE OF EXACT PAGE, CITATION AND CONTEXT OF KERRY'S SPEECH ABOUT CAMBODIA
Instapundit ^ | 8/11/04

Posted on 08/11/2004 12:16:52 PM PDT by areafiftyone

TOM MAGUIRE has already posted John Kerry's speech claiming to have been in Cambodia on Christmas day, 1968. But because this is a question of importance, and because some people might doubt the veracity of quotations pasted in from NEXIS, I thought I'd go to the law library and check it myself in hardcopy. (The law library was closed and the copiers were off, but I have a key, and -- let this be another lesson to bloggers everywhere -- a digital camera).

Here's a link to a larger version showing the exact page citation and context.

The evidence that Kerry wasn't in Cambodia seems pretty strong (see Tom Maguire's post, along with this letter) which makes Kerry's claim all the more difficult to understand.

It's possible, of course, that there's an innocent explanation for this, even if I can't quite think of one. Maybe Kerry was on a double-secret mission to Cambodia, such that everyone involved continues to deny it today. Except, inexplicably, for Kerry. . . . Or maybe his memory failed him -- though there's that "seared--seared--in" language to contend with when considering that hypothesis. Or he could just have been bragging. Your call. Personally, I remain more interested in what Kerry would do regarding the current war, but since he invites us to judge him on his Vietnam record, evidence that he might not be telling the truth about that record is obviously relevant.

At any rate, posting this should remove any doubt about what Kerry said, if not about what he did.

UPDATE: More here, including another Kerry quote on the same subject.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Reader Wayne Seibert emails: "You forgot about Kerry's mission to kill Col. Kurtz."

YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Several readers wonder why, if Kerry is really lying about having been in Cambodia on Christmas Day, 1968, somebody hasn't made something of it before? Beats me.

On the other hand, if it were false, you'd expect somebody from the Democratic spin machine to be coming forth with evidence that Kerry was in Cambodia then. But what did I get in the daily "Media Matters" email? A complaint that Bill O'Reilly compared Media Matters to the Klan.

MORE: Brian Rogge emails: "A blogger with a key and a digital camera? There's a novel there somewhere. Someone tell Roger Simon!"

Yes, as I photographed the pages with my little camera in the darkened library, it did make me think of old spy thrillers. Though only a particularly masochistic spy would copy the Congressional Record.

STILL MORE: More reports of Kerry's absence from Cambodia.



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1 posted on 08/11/2004 12:16:53 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

2 posted on 08/11/2004 12:21:38 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: areafiftyone

Wow!

I don't think he can double talk that one!

Is another flip-flop in the making?


3 posted on 08/11/2004 12:23:05 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: areafiftyone

Didn't Kerry also say it was President Nixon who sent him to Cambodia? Never mind that Nixon wasn't President yet!


4 posted on 08/11/2004 12:36:39 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: areafiftyone

https://coral.he.net/~swiftvet/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets


5 posted on 08/11/2004 12:37:13 PM PDT by Nascar Dad (Not Fonda Kerry!)
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To: areafiftyone

Following the link the article states that hanoi john wouldn't have been able to tell the khmer rouge from the NVC especially in the DARK. That the early khmer rouge wore NVC clothing.


6 posted on 08/11/2004 12:42:19 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

ping


7 posted on 08/11/2004 12:42:45 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: areafiftyone
When it was seared (seared!) into his memory, it apparently cauterized his neurons.
8 posted on 08/11/2004 12:49:00 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution.)
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To: finnman69
I don't see this as any proof of anything other that KERRY is a LIAR. To a Democrat and the MSM who supports HIM, lying means very little to NOTHING. Remember the END (HIS ascendency to the Presidency) justifies any means (lying) necessary to attain it.

The SOCIALIST Workers party of America, with their comrads, the Communist Party of America and the Democrat Party are ALL THE SAME.

9 posted on 08/11/2004 12:49:14 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: areafiftyone; All
Mass emailed to the usual suspects in 'netland, and crosslinked here:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

The Kerry-enablers and the shills in Big Media can spin and smear all they want- this subject is not going the way of Kathleen Wiley's cat- it has nine lives.

Everyone who gives a rip about honesty, and truth, and free speech, should give the SBV's a few dollars- it probably better spent and leveraged than money to politicians.

DONATE HERE!

Contributions can also be sent to:

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
c/o Weymouth Symmes, Treasurer
PO Box 26184
Alexandria, VA 22313

10 posted on 08/11/2004 12:51:18 PM PDT by backhoe (Kerry--- "The Franchurian Candidate")
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To: backhoe

Thanks for the crosslink. I was hoping someone would save this for future reference.


11 posted on 08/11/2004 12:54:56 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone
GTBOS!
( Glad to be of service! )

[ ...and the more I see of this nonsense, the more accurate I believe my tagline to be... ]

12 posted on 08/11/2004 1:01:12 PM PDT by backhoe (1990's? Decade of Frauds. 2000's? Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: backhoe

LOL - I think that line says it all.


13 posted on 08/11/2004 1:02:07 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: finnman69

Well obviouly somthing was "seared, seared" into John Kerry but it was not first-hand recollections of Cambodia. wow what a bunch of ....

This guy used a pack of lies to attach the US and its brave servicemen and women on returning and he finally got caught. He would say anything to play the role of Hanoi Jane- the rerun and did. (Of course if he didn't lie, then he really should be tried as a war criminal for the atrocities he claims to have committed).

And the left embraces this??!!!


14 posted on 08/11/2004 1:24:32 PM PDT by rod1 (On the front line)
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To: LTCJ
When it was seared (seared!) into his memory, it apparently cauterized his neurons.

You are too generous. Neurons? Plural? *snicker*

15 posted on 08/11/2004 1:27:27 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: Phantom Lord

Yeah--Nixon took office mid-January 1969. So who supposidly sent Kerry into Cambodia "illegally"???

Yep a Rat.

Obviously Conclusion even for a liberal--just can't trust those RATS with the presidency. Not then--not now.


16 posted on 08/11/2004 1:28:44 PM PDT by rod1 (On the front line)
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To: rod1

Read the clause preceeding Kerry's quotes in the smaller picture - it's clear his quoted statement was in the context of the preceeding clause in which he was referring exclusively to Nixon by name (instapundit screwed up on that one by only focusing on the exact language from SwiftVet book)


17 posted on 08/11/2004 1:37:12 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: rod1
Was "Apocalypse Now" set in December? Like around Christmas? I don't remember as I only saw some of the movie once.

I'm wondering if the memory that was seared into Kerry's mind wasn't a hallucination from seeing Apocalypse Now 5000 times.

Apparently Kerry has mistaken himself for the character in the movie. That's pretty S'kerry.

18 posted on 08/11/2004 1:38:36 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: areafiftyone

Thanks for this thread.

Kerry is a damned liar.


19 posted on 08/11/2004 1:39:00 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: areafiftyone
You people don't just get the new paradigm of "depends what the meaning of 'is' is". Let me deconstruct this for you.

Kerry remembers the following things:

  1. He remembers sitting in a gunboat in Cambodia in Christmas of 1968.
  2. He remembers being shot at by the Vietnames.
  3. He remembers being shot at by the Cambodians.
  4. He remembers being shot at by the Khmer Rouge.
  5. He remembers the President telling the American people he was not there.
  6. He remebers the President telling the American people that the troops were not in Cambodia.
  7. He has the memory seared in him that says before we send another generation into harm's way that we blah-blah-blah.

Okay? Now you silly people think that all of these recollections all the same and that the phrase "seared in me" refers to all of the recollections; but it only (would parse Kerry) refers to that last memory. But let's go beyond that, which statement is a lie?

#1? Well, he could say that he was mistaken and thought he was in Cambodia, but gee-whiz I guess he was wrong. No lie, just a mistake.

#2? Nope he was certainly shot at by the Vietnames.

#3? Nope - he THOUGHT they were Cambodians, but he was wrong - see #1.

#4? Nope - once again he thought they were Khmer Rouge, but, well, fog of war and all that.

#5? Nope - He certainly remembers the President saying that there were no troops in Cambodia - oh and don't confuse the issue by stating that Nixon wasn't president in December of 1968. The date 1968 only refers to Kerry sitting in the boat, not the date at which Nixon talked about Cambodia.

#6? Nope, see the refutation for #5.

#7? Nope, his seared-in memory only refers to the memory that we should not have another Vietnam - not the memories outlined in #1 through #6.

See how it easy it is? You don't really believe there is such a thing as truth do you?

20 posted on 08/11/2004 1:41:45 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: Phantom Lord
Didn't Kerry also say it was President Nixon who sent him to Cambodia? Never mind that Nixon wasn't President yet!

His statement implies it was Nixon, who in 1970 denied an incursion into Cambodia to get at the enemies' safe bases.

21 posted on 08/11/2004 1:48:52 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: Steven W.

Love the context. Arguing against aid to the Contra's because it would lead to a deeper American involvement ( against his friends the Sandanista's). Of course the first chance the people of Nicaraugua got to vote on the issue ( forced by the Contra rebellion ) they tossed the Sandi's out on their ear. This guy Is ALWAYS on the wrong side of the issues.


22 posted on 08/11/2004 1:56:20 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: areafiftyone

Maybe the moderator could change the title on this thread to something like: Comprehensive Thread for Various Versions of Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia Stories.

We need one good comprehensive thread [this thread?] that has all the 'Christmas in Cambodia' links and Kerry's various versions and statements about it.


We can add this thread to these other compilations:


John Kerry's Flip Flops (extensive documentation)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119904/posts


John Kerry's leadership - FOUR bills passed in 19 years. (4 resolutions as well)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1182739/posts


What Kerry Said and What You Need to Know ("MUST READ")
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1182752/posts



Policy Memo: Progress on Homeland Security (Most of Kerry's proposals already done...)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1183603/posts


Instapundit Has Pictures of Exact Page, Citation and Context of Kerry's Speech about Cambodia
[Comprehensive Thread for Various Versions of Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia Stories.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189622/posts


23 posted on 08/11/2004 2:02:14 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: backhoe

and throw a few bucks to www.wintersoldier.com
they're doing great work over there too!


24 posted on 08/11/2004 2:15:20 PM PDT by snuffy smiff
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To: areafiftyone

It certainly looks as though Kerry never was in Cambodia; even his camp now seems to be saying that he was only "near" the country. So, would it not be considered perjury to go on to the floor of the Senate and enter into the records statements which you knew were false, just as it would if you made those statements under oath in court? On the other hand, if he really didn't know that he wasn't in Cambodia (yeah, right), does he have any regrets, shame even, and maybe even some feelings of embarrassment, about creating such a tempest in a teacup, maligning a US president, discrediting our war efforts, and giving encouragement to those who were always ready to believe the worst about our eforts in southeast asia?.......


25 posted on 08/11/2004 2:15:43 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: backhoe

bttt


26 posted on 08/11/2004 2:17:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: areafiftyone
It's possible, of course, that there's an innocent explanation for this, even if I can't quite think of one. Maybe Kerry was on a double-secret mission to Cambodia, such that everyone involved continues to deny it today. Except, inexplicably, for Kerry. . . . Or maybe his memory failed him -- though there's that "seared--seared--in" language to contend with when considering that hypothesis.

Actually, if you think about the film "The Manchurian Candidate" the brainwashed implanted "memories" are quite vivid. In fact, they are "seared" into their memories.

Has anyone flashed a Queen of Hearts card at John Kerry?

[Queen of hearts (English form)]

Extract from synopsis of original film:

It begins with an astonishing, nightmarish gut-punch of a scene, with Captain Marco (Sinatra) and his unit sitting around a hotel lobby listening to a bunch of old ladies talking about flowers. The camera circles around 360 degrees; when we reach the starting point again, the old ladies have changed into a band of sinister-looking enemy soldiers and we learn of a terrible brain-washing plot. We even learn that dedicated American soldiers can be coaxed to kill one of their own with little or no trouble.

The unit comes home with the story imbedded in their heads that Raymond Shaw (Laurence Harvey) saved their lives. Shaw wins the Congressional Medal of Honor, which his mother (Angela Lansbury) and stepfather, Senator John Iselin (James Gregory), begin to use to their advantage in the upcoming campaign.

Shaw has been hypnotized into a fearless, remorseless assassin; his trigger is the red queen in a deck of cards. His brainwashing is so effective that he kills his one true love, Jocelyn (Leslie Parrish) and her gentle father Senator Jordan (John McGiver) -- Raymond's mother's sworn enemy.

Meanwhile, Marco has been plagued with terrible nightmares and suspects that everything may not be peachy-keen.

Sound familiar?  So, why is it only members of his crew support him?  Could it be that they were captured, programmed and then returned?  Enquiring minds want to know.

Seriously, there are some times when movies unintentionally provide a perfect mirror of real life right at the time they are released.  The China Syndrome is one.  Wag the Dog is another.  Is the newly released remake of The Manchurian Candidate, are we seeing another unintended synchronicity?

27 posted on 08/11/2004 2:18:15 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Kozak

ALWAYS... and if Kerry ever told me the sun was shining,I'd run and get an umbrella!


28 posted on 08/11/2004 2:20:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Salvation

The MSM will ignored it.


29 posted on 08/11/2004 2:22:02 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: PISANO

Thank you for reading my mind. Now tell me what am I thinking...NOW!


30 posted on 08/11/2004 2:23:25 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Palladin

"Kerry is a damned liar."

What is that quote? Lies, damned liars and statistics. ??

Something like that. Following the progression in the quote, Kerry is on his way to becoming a statistic.


31 posted on 08/11/2004 2:25:55 PM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: areafiftyone

BUMP and Forward Later.


32 posted on 08/11/2004 3:06:12 PM PDT by Pagey (" It is disgraceful that Hillary Rodham Clinton was allowed to become a 'Senator of N.Y'.")
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To: finnman69; areafiftyone

Kerry Update: "I have that memory which is seared -— seared -— in me of being with Marlon Brando and Martin Sheen in Cambodia. I remember Martin Sheen very clearly killing Marlon Brando with a machete and the smell of napalm in the morning...However, I am unable to remember when that was exactly or any other details unless someone shows me the Queen of Diamonds... I also have memories of secret missions into North Korea, Manchuria, and China
with Frank Sinatra and Denzel Washington...where I saved every man in my unit from hostile helicopter fire."


33 posted on 08/11/2004 5:16:38 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Senators and Members of Congress are not under oath when they speak on the floor. If you testify before them, you are under oath, but they can lie all they want. They can preface their questions to you with lies that make you look bad, but if you make the slightest misstatement, you can be held accountable. They can demand that you answer, under oath, a question that bears directly on pending litigation (e.g. is tobacco addictive?), and you must answer truthfully.


34 posted on 08/11/2004 6:23:17 PM PDT by Montfort
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To: areafiftyone

Bookmarking


35 posted on 08/11/2004 6:30:49 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Montfort
and you must answer truthfully.

Kerry is very cavalier about his truthfulness while testifying. He did say to Tim Russert that he was young and some of the comments were cover the top (admitting to lying as far as I am concerned). He did admit some turned out not to be true ... and others did turn out to be true.

What an odd approach to the truth!

36 posted on 08/11/2004 6:34:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: P-Marlowe
Was "Apocalypse Now" set in December? Like around Christmas? I don't remember as I only saw some of the movie once.

I recall that, as the boat was going up river into Cambodia, there were lights strung across one of the bridges, fireworks going off, and drunk or drugged-up soldiers firing wildly. It could have been Christmas. However, I haven't seen Apocalypse Now for many years.

37 posted on 08/11/2004 7:40:25 PM PDT by AF68
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To: Phsstpok

thought it was queen of diamonds in Manchurian Candidate


38 posted on 08/11/2004 7:58:42 PM PDT by Job03 (job2004)
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To: areafiftyone

ping


39 posted on 08/11/2004 8:08:21 PM PDT by southland
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To: Montfort

Thanks - I was dumb to have thought the government would have acted in any other way......


40 posted on 08/11/2004 8:30:38 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: areafiftyone; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...



41 posted on 08/11/2004 9:13:53 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Smartass

O'Neill has been on Fox News a lot and he is very credible!


42 posted on 08/11/2004 9:17:26 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: potlatch
Kerry's troubles are just beginning.

Check this link out:
"Fortune Cookie John"
43 posted on 08/11/2004 9:20:57 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Smartass

Thanks SmartA, I read about that yesterday. With all the dorky pictures Kerry has been posing for, and the Swift Vets, I imagine his 'handlers' are having fits!!


44 posted on 08/11/2004 9:26:35 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: potlatch
I'm sure he's having acid reflux. If not, he should be!!!
45 posted on 08/11/2004 9:30:37 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: rod1

The searing was "vivid" and "painful" b/c the K-flopper, being a leftist, cares and feels. Not in a primitive troglodytic way like some people are limited to. Hey, X42i could have been traumatized by church burnings if there had been any! He would have seen the nuances! It's much more about their wonderfulness than some technical thing like facts and whether it really happened.


46 posted on 08/11/2004 9:43:27 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "If the Lord God is your Copilot, you need to change seats." (d,v,c))
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To: areafiftyone

What an absolute dipstick. Secrete missions? Christmas in Cambodia listening to the President?

This moron want to be The President of The United States?

This guy is a STRONG candidate for a long "vacation" at the "quiet farm."


47 posted on 08/11/2004 9:51:41 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: Phsstpok; Interesting Times; Defender2; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; ...







48 posted on 08/11/2004 9:56:23 PM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryCambodia.html)
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To: devolve

John Kerry wrote his Review for "Apocalypse Now" on Oct 14, 1979 in the Boston Herald.

Here is the article in JPG format.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1188739/posts?page=89


49 posted on 08/11/2004 9:59:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: PISANO
"To a Democrat and the MSM who supports HIM, lying means very little to NOTHING."

Except if they can accuse the president of being a liar. They make me ashamed to share my country with them. They are like a bad relative who keeps showing up at your door step and expecting you to stop everything and give heed to their cause. They are like goats in a field all eaten up and then turn on their care takers. I am sick and tired of the entire lot.

50 posted on 08/11/2004 10:09:10 PM PDT by hope ( Let no man deceive you!)
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