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Columnist Says Barack Obama 'Lied To The American People;' Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama's Book
Press release - Yahoo news ^ | Tuesday August 10, 9:22 pm ET

Posted on 08/11/2004 2:14:13 PM PDT by Gelato

Columnist Says Barack Obama 'Lied To The American People;'
Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama's Book

Tuesday August 10, 9:22 pm ET

NEW YORK, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Out2.com's independent contrarian columnist, Andy Martin, will publish a column and hold simultaneous news conferences in New York and London on Wednesday, August 11th to disclose he believes Barack Obama is a political fraud who "lied to the American people." Martin has asked Crown Books to stop sales of Obama's book because of its fraudulent content. Martin says Obama may be a threat to the Jewish community.

NEWS CONFERENCE DETAILS:

New York:
Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:00 A.M.
Location: Northeast Corner of Fifth Avenue and 65th
Street (Temple Emanu-El)

London:
Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:00 P.M.
Location: 2 Dryden Mansions, Queens Club Gardens London W14

"I feel sad having to expose Barack Obama," says Martin, "but the man is a complete fraud. The truth is going to surprise, and disappoint, and outrage many people who were drawn to him. He has lied to the American people, and he has sought to misrepresent his own heritage.

"Obama's life story is vastly different from the one he portrays. My point: if he will lie about his mother and father, what else is he lying about? Can we expect 'bimbo eruptions?'

"Fiction: Obama stated in his Convention speech: 'My father ... grew up herding goats.' The 'goat herder' claim has been repeated endlessly. It is a lie. Fact: Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama was a prominent and wealthy farmer. His son, Obama's father, was a child of privilege, not privation. He was an outstanding student, not a herdsman.

"Fiction: Obama was given an 'African' name. Fact: Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion. I am a strong supporter of the Muslim community, and I believe Muslims have been scapegoated. Obama has a great opportunity to be forthright. Instead, he has treated his Muslim heritage as a dark secret. His grandfather was named 'Hussein.' That is an Arabic-Muslim, not African, name. Hussein was a devout Muslim and named his son, Barack Senior, 'Baraka.' Baraka is an Arabic word meaning 'blessed.' Baraka comes out of the Koran and Arabic, not Africa.

"Barack Senior was also a devoted Muslim, and also chose a Muslim name for his son, our own Barack Obama, Junior. Again, his name was an Arabic and Koranic.

Obama has spent a lifetime running from his family heritage and religious heritage. Would his father have given his son a Koranic name if the father was not a devout Muslim? Obama's stepfather was also a Muslim. Obama will be the first Muslim-heritage senator; he should be proud of that fact. There is nothing to be ashamed of in any of the three great Abrahamic religions.

"Fiction: Obama Senior was a harmless student 'immigrant' who came to the United States only to study. Fact: Obama was part of one of the most corrupt and violent organizations in Africa: the Kenyatta regime. Obama's father ran back to Kenya soon after the British left. It is likely Obama's father had Mau Mau sympathies or connections, or he would not have been welcomed into the murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists. I believe Obama's secret shame at his family history of rape, murder and arson is what actualizes him. Our research is not yet complete. We are seeking to examine British colonial records. Our investigation to date has drawn on information on three continents.

"And what about Obama's beloved Kenyan brothers and sisters? None of his family was invited to Boston to share his prominence. Are his relatives being kept in the closet? Where are they? More secrecy, more prevarication.

"It is time for Barack Obama to stop presenting a fantasy to the American people. We are forgiving and many would still support him. It may well be that his concealment is meant to endanger Israel. His Muslim religion would obviously raise serious questions in many Jewish circles where Obama now enjoys support," Martin states.

"Our investigation is continuing. In he meantime, Crown Books should stop selling Obama's novelization of his life. We have asked Crown to do that. Obama is living a lie."

RESOURCES: Martin's columns at Out2.com (Govt & Politics); E-mail: andy@andymartin.com

Source: Andy Martin Worldwide Communications


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2004; 2012election; andymartin; barackobama; book; election2012; eligibility; fraud; hawaii; illinois; indonesia; jihadinamerica; kenya; kenyanbornmuzzie; keyes; mittromney; muslimamericans; obama; obamaisamuslim; obamasbook; soetoro
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To: dead
For instance, he said his father was a goat herder, this guy says his father was a farmer.

Not exactly, this guy says his grandfather was a farmer, his father was a student.

101 posted on 08/11/2004 2:49:55 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Inyokern
If his mother married two Muslim men and Obama is hiding his Muslim background, that is legitimate news.

It wouldn't be news to those who bother to read post #70.
102 posted on 08/11/2004 2:50:14 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: outlawcam

Amen to that comment.


103 posted on 08/11/2004 2:50:32 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: cfrels

Nothing but the facts. We just want the facts. Now, how do we get them? He said he had documentation from three continents so he should publish those docs.


104 posted on 08/11/2004 2:50:52 PM PDT by hobson
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To: dead

Well, his campaign biography is about as true as the one put out by supporters of William Henry Harrison in 1840. A man who was born in a mansion in Virginia was said to have been born in a log cabin.


105 posted on 08/11/2004 2:50:58 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Diogenesis

OBAMA BIN LADEN???


106 posted on 08/11/2004 2:51:07 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (I pray that Im wrong about alot of things.)
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To: Samurai_Jack

Yes of unborn babies!


107 posted on 08/11/2004 2:51:47 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Right_Handed_Writer; Gelato

I just got this via mail and am stunned, have reread the article 3 times! I have also mailed it to someone very important, lets see if we hear this backlash in Chicago!

Gelato:

Bless you for finding this!!!


108 posted on 08/11/2004 2:51:52 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: expatpat
Not exactly, this guy says his grandfather was a farmer, his father was a student.

Forever?

I thought only trustafarians could manage that as a career.

109 posted on 08/11/2004 2:52:37 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: tbpiper

And hiding on Hannity's show the other night, when Alan was on, Colmes said Obama was also invited but 'declined'


110 posted on 08/11/2004 2:53:11 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: Inyokern

But he is not hiding his Muslim background- most Kenyans are Muslim. Every bio that I have of Obama mentions that his stepfather was a Muslim from Indonesia. 99% of people who hear the name "Barack Obama" assume that he is Muslim. If he wanted to hide his Muslim heritage, why wouldn't he change his name to, say, Barry O'Brian?


111 posted on 08/11/2004 2:54:39 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: RobbyS
Well, his campaign biography is about as true as the one put out by supporters of William Henry Harrison in 1840. A man who was born in a mansion in Virginia was said to have been born in a log cabin.

Or Al Gore – the man who grew up in an expensive Washington DC hotel, but remembers spending his youth plowing Tennessee fields with horses.

112 posted on 08/11/2004 2:54:41 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mo1

The libs were foaming at the mouth,going ape over someone they knew nothing about,oh hell they go ape over ted kennedy and he's a killer


113 posted on 08/11/2004 2:54:41 PM PDT by rang1995
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To: MJY1288; texasbluebell; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; All

I can promise you two lovely ladies have been investigating Obama and they have found much 'before' this article that backs it up!!!


114 posted on 08/11/2004 2:55:40 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Here's the title of a press release this same Andy Martin put out in July of 2002: NEWS CONFERENCE BY INTELLIGENCE ANALYST/BROADCASTER ANDY MARTIN SAYS "SECRET" BUSH PLAN TO INVADE IRAQ IS "ORCHESTRATED INSANITY"

There are many more press releases like this at his website. Do you really want FR to be associated with this nutjob Andy Martin?
115 posted on 08/11/2004 2:56:00 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Gelato

Is this on ABCNNBCBS yet? Or the nytlatwp?


116 posted on 08/11/2004 2:56:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JustPiper
Did this character EVER once state that he is of Muslim heritage and is, himself, a Muslim?

This is important in today's world, hiding it sends a message FAR SCARIER than is the fact that he is a Muslim.

If he is, he needs to speak to specific Islamic practices, how he feels about them, and he needs to speak to the Christians and Jewish in this nation, stating publically whether or not he sees them as infidels.

117 posted on 08/11/2004 2:56:25 PM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: anniegetyourgun

The Clintons and Kelly were really pushing Obama as a great future dem politician during the convention, makes you wonder huh? Maybe Clintoon gave him some pointers, as he has the most experience in lying.


118 posted on 08/11/2004 2:56:57 PM PDT by Kackikat (,Kerry=the counterfeit, GWBush is the real deal!)
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To: dead
Or Al Gore - the man who grew up in an expensive Washington DC hotel, but remembers spending his youth plowing Tennessee fields with horses.

"Hey...plowing those hallways is tough work, I'll have you know."

119 posted on 08/11/2004 2:57:55 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: mystery-ak
I tried telling friends that Obama was a Muslim

Read Barack Obama, Man of Faith, Monday 26, 2004 by Nicholas Stix, columnist for therant.us. This man must be exposed.

http://www.therant.us/staff/bios/nicholas_stix.htm

120 posted on 08/11/2004 2:57:56 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: JustPiper
You call me a lovely lady again and I'll..........

:-)

Cheers,

Mike

121 posted on 08/11/2004 2:58:44 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: Peach

I have my opinion on this guy .. time will tell if my thinking is right

I will give him credit on the convention speech though ... a real smooth talker


122 posted on 08/11/2004 2:58:48 PM PDT by Mo1 (Kerry & Edwards .... they will leave no Special Interest Group behind)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Is Obama currently a Muslim? I'm just curious.

Once a Muslim always a Muslim. The penalty for apostasy is death.....
123 posted on 08/11/2004 3:00:27 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: stars & stripes forever

OK...I stand corrected. He does say he is a Christian there, if a rather indifferentist one.


124 posted on 08/11/2004 3:00:34 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Hildy
I agree. It's like Schwartzenegger's Father being a Nazi. So what?

Exactly- It only matters what the person up for election has done- this is the United States not Europe, ancestry should not matter. I don't care if Obama's father was up for sainthood, I still won't vote for him.

125 posted on 08/11/2004 3:01:34 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: prairiebreeze

Holly Cannollii! Let the party and the debates begin!!

Keyes 2004!!


126 posted on 08/11/2004 3:02:27 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: berkley

Love the end of the press release:

Obama is "living a lie."

Sound familiar?


127 posted on 08/11/2004 3:04:10 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: Endeavor

fyi


128 posted on 08/11/2004 3:05:05 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Impersonating June Cleaver since 1967)
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To: hobson

Many of us Chicago/Illinois Freepers attended the rally Sunday, what would you like to know?


129 posted on 08/11/2004 3:05:17 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: drjimmy
If his mother married two Muslim men and Obama is hiding his Muslim background, that is legitimate news.

It wouldn't be news to those who bother to read post #70.
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Why? Because post #70 should be accepted as truth? Do Democrats not deceive or is there something special about Obama that he would be that rare Democrat incapable of deception?
130 posted on 08/11/2004 3:05:32 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: MattinNJ; unspun

I've already mailed this to a few folks and the man holding the press conference and I can guarantee Unpun,TheRightGuy and many are on this -g-


131 posted on 08/11/2004 3:06:57 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: Gelato

I'd wait to let the dust settle on this one.

Just as I wish others had on the O'Connor/Gonzales business.

The internet makes everyone a bit trigger-happy.

Cheers,

Richard F.


132 posted on 08/11/2004 3:07:25 PM PDT by rdf ("Endowed, by their Creator, with .... rights")
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To: sinkspur; MamaDearest; Labyrinthos; drymans wife; little jeremiah; Quix; BagCamAddict; wakingup; ...

So? That does not make the truth about Obama any less true, I am glad this man is running especially, c considering this:

I SUPPORT MAXIMUM EFFORTS IN THE WAR AGAINST TERRORISM.


133 posted on 08/11/2004 3:09:34 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: dead

What his father was is all you are focusing on. Step back a little.


134 posted on 08/11/2004 3:11:08 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Republic

I've read that he is unitarian, not muslim. If true, his name is immaterial; it just shows what his father was, which is not binding on him.


135 posted on 08/11/2004 3:12:14 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: Gelato
A Muslim getting into the SENATE when we are at WAR with Muslim fanatics...BAD MOVE DEMOCRATS!

What are the SECRETS he will Know about our country??? How will he use these secrets??? A Muslim is First a Muslim, then a countryman. Beware.

136 posted on 08/11/2004 3:12:27 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: B Knotts
OK...I stand corrected. He does say he is a Christian there, if a rather indifferentist one.

You need to read the article a bit closer. Obama DOES NOT have a Christian worldview.

He is quoted as saying:"I am a Christian.… So, I have a deep faith. I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people."

Jesus says, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father, except by Me. John 14:6

137 posted on 08/11/2004 3:14:35 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: anniegetyourgun
It's a long list of liars he must follow.....Kennedy, Condit, Clinton, Clinton, Jackson, & Kerry

______________________

How can Martha Stewart go to Jail for lying to the FBI/Government Officials with all of the above lying all of the time and never get charged?

All of the above have filled 13 page US Government Security Clearance Form and some how get cleared.

How can they lie and still keep their jobs?

138 posted on 08/11/2004 3:14:39 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (I predict a easy Bush landslide.)
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To: JustPiper
That does not make the truth about Obama any less true, I am glad this man is running

Really? Why does Martin have a legal defense fund and does NOT list his issues on his website?

We've seen this guy before. As a Floridian said, Martin's a nut job.

Be careful in hitching your wagon to a nut job.

139 posted on 08/11/2004 3:15:01 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Who is the father of the Sons of Zebedee"?--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Gelato

Boy Howdy. The Sh*t is going to hit the fan now. Let me get some popcorn and turn on the TV.


140 posted on 08/11/2004 3:15:09 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Ann Archy

The Demonrats want a Muslim in the Senate and Obama's their man. Bin Laden must be laughing in his grave/cave.


141 posted on 08/11/2004 3:16:13 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: outlawcam
I've read that he is unitarian, not muslim. If true, his name is immaterial; it just shows what his father was, which is not binding on him.

Fully logic, what you say is true (and right).

But considering today's events, meaning since terrorism as raised its ugly head in a horrific manner, it DOES MATTER what influences a person has undergone. Especially from parents who may consider Americans evil. We deserve to know if this man sees us as infidels and deserve to hear him say it....Unitarian or not.

142 posted on 08/11/2004 3:16:14 PM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: Samurai_Jack
OBAMA BIN LADEN???

No, Obama Bin Lying...so someone claims.

143 posted on 08/11/2004 3:16:17 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: JustPiper

Isn't there a high concentration of Jews in the advertising industry in Chicago? Assuming this story is true, how do you think they will they respond?


144 posted on 08/11/2004 3:16:20 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Peach

How about all of us who know this is truth contact Crown Books?

I could not get an addy/phone number etc on them?


145 posted on 08/11/2004 3:16:38 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: hobson
Assuming this story is true, how do you think they will they respond?
147 posted on 08/11/2004 3:17:15 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Peach

I cannot even envision the voting ballot with Obama on it, how can that get votes?!


148 posted on 08/11/2004 3:17:28 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: berkley

'I have a deep faith'

April 5, 2004

BY CATHLEEN FALSANI SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST


Casually straightening his tie with one hand as he holds the door for a stranger with the other, the young politician strides into the cafe, greeting an employee by name and flashing a big grin at the rest of the room.

He grabs a bottled protein shake from the cooler at the back of Cafe Baci on South Michigan Avenue, and settles into a table near the soft-drink dispenser, doffing his suit jacket along the way.

Barack Obama is alone on this Saturday afternoon in the city, his press secretary nowhere in sight. He's not carrying anything with him. Not even notes.

Yet he appears confident as he answers questions about his spiritual life, a subject that would make many politicians -- on or off the campaign trail -- more skittish than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

If an hourlong conversation about his faith unnerves him, Obama's not letting on.

The first question he fields without hesitation: What does he believe?

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"I am a Christian," the 42-year-old Illinois state senator and Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate says, as one of the nearby customers interrupts to congratulate him on his recent primary win. Obama shakes the man's hand and says, "Thank you very much. I appreciate that," before turning his attention directly back to the question.

"So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

"That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived."

It's perhaps an unlikely theological position for someone who places his faith squarely at the feet of Jesus to take, saying essentially that all people of faith -- Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone -- know the same God.

That depends, Obama says, on how a particular verse from the Gospel of John, where Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me," is heard.

Obama's theological point of view was shaped by his uniquely multicultural upbringing. He was born in 1961 in Hawaii to a white mother who came from Protestant Midwestern stock and a black African father who hailed from the Luo tribe of Kenya.

Obama describes his father, after whom he is named, as "agnostic." His paternal grandfather was a Muslim. His mother, he says, was a Christian.

"My mother, who I think had as much influence on my values as anybody, was not someone who wore her religion on her sleeve," he says. "We'd go to church for Easter. She wasn't a 'church lady.' "

In his 1993 memoir, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance, Obama describes his mother as "a lonely witness for secular humanism."

"My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess, a faith that she would refuse to describe as religious; that, in fact, her experience told her was sacrilegious: a faith that rational, thoughtful people could shape their own destiny," he says in the book.

When he was 6 years old, after his parents divorced, Obama moved with his mother and her new husband -- a non-practicing Muslim -- to Indonesia, where he lived until he was 10 and attended a Roman Catholic school.

"I went to a Catholic school in a Muslim country, so I was studying the Bible and catechisms by day, and, at night, you'd hear the [Muslim] prayer call," Obama recalls. "My mother was a deeply spiritual person and would spend a lot of time talking about values and give me books about the world's religions and talk to me about them.

"Her view always was that underlying these religions was a common set of beliefs about how you treat other people and how you aspire to act, not just for yourself, but also for the greater good."

Obama earned a degree in political science from New York's Columbia University in 1983 and in 1991 graduated magna cum laude with a law degree from Harvard University. Since 1993, he has been a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School.

Those experiences, as much as his multireligious childhood, affect how he expresses his faith, Obama says.

"Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of our civic religion," he says. "I am a big believer in the separation of church and state. I am a big believer in our constitutional structure. I mean, I'm a law professor at the University of Chicago teaching constitutional law.

"I am a great admirer of our founding charter and its resolve to prevent theocracies from forming and its resolve to prevent disruptive strains of fundamentalism from taking root in this country.

"I think there is an enormous danger on the part of public figures to rationalize or justify their actions by claiming God's mandate. I don't think it's healthy for public figures to wear religion on their sleeve as a means to insulate themselves from criticism, or dialogue with people who disagree with them."

Still, Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." As a sign of that relationship, he says, he walked down the aisle of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ in response to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's altar call one Sunday morning about 16 years ago.

The politician could have ended his spiritual tale right there, at the point some people might assume his life changed, when he got "saved," transformed, washed in the blood. But Obama wants to clarify what truly happened.

"It wasn't an epiphany," he says of that public profession of faith. "It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."

These days, he says, he attends the 11 a.m. Sunday service at Trinity in the Brainerd neighborhood every week -- or at least as many weeks as he is able. His pastor, Wright, has become a close confidant.

So how did he become a churchgoer?

It began in 1985, when he came to Chicago as a $13,000-a-year community organizer, working with a number of African-American churches in the Roseland, West Pullman and Altgeld Gardens neighborhoods that were trying to deal with the devastation caused by shuttered steel plants.

"I started working with both the ministers and the lay people in these churches on issues like creating job-training programs, or after-school programs for youth, or making sure that city services were fairly allocated to underserved communities," he says. "And it was in those places where I think what had been more of an intellectual view of religion deepened.

"I became much more familiar with the ongoing tradition of the historic black church and its importance in the community. And the power of that culture to give people strength in very difficult circumstances, and the power of that church to give people courage against great odds. And it moved me deeply."

Obama says he reads the Bible, though not as regularly as he'd like, now that he's on the campaign trail. But he does find time to pray.

"It's not formal, me getting on my knees," he says. "I think I have an ongoing conversation with God.... I'm constantly asking myself questions about what I'm doing, why I am doing it.

"The biggest challenge, I think, is always maintaining your moral compass."

Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

"I always have felt in him this consciousness that, at the end of the day, with all of us, you've got to face God," Pfleger says of Obama. "Faith is key to his life, no question about it. [It is] central to who he is, and not just in his work in the political field, but as a man, as a black man, as a husband, as a father.... I don't think he could easily divorce his faith from who he is."

Another person Obama says he seeks out for spiritual counsel is state Sen. James Meeks, who is also the pastor of Chicago's Salem Baptist Church. The day after Obama won the primary in March, he stopped by Salem for Wednesday-night Bible study.

"I know that he's a person of prayer," Meeks says. "The night after the election, he was the hottest thing going from Galesburg to Rockford. He did all the TV shows, and all the morning news, but his last stop at night was for church. He came by to say thank you, and he came by for prayer."

Obama admits it's not easy for politicians to talk about faith.

"Part of the reason I think it's always difficult for public figures to talk about this is that the nature of politics is that you want to have everybody like you and project the best possible traits onto you," he says. "Oftentimes, that's by being as vague as possible, or appealing to the lowest common denominators. The more specific and detailed you are on issues as personal and fundamental as your faith, the more potentially dangerous it is.

"The difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There's the belief, certainly in some quarters, that [if] people haven't embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior, they're going to hell."

Obama doesn't believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell.

But he's not sure if he'll be going to heaven, either.

"I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die," he says. "When I tuck in my daughters at night, and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."


149 posted on 08/11/2004 3:17:40 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Ann Archy
A Muslim getting into the SENATE when we are at WAR with Muslim fanatics...BAD MOVE DEMOCRATS!
What are the SECRETS he will Know about our country??? How will he use these secrets??? A Muslim is First a Muslim, then a countryman

If you have specific evidence of treachery about Obama, you should present it.

Otherwise, your post is just bigotry.

150 posted on 08/11/2004 3:17:51 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Who is the father of the Sons of Zebedee"?--Cardinal Fanfani)
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