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Columnist Says Barack Obama 'Lied To The American People;' Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama's Book
Press release - Yahoo news ^ | Tuesday August 10, 9:22 pm ET

Posted on 08/11/2004 2:14:13 PM PDT by Gelato

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To: ApplegateRanch

Who was the 12 year old? I missed that


301 posted on 08/11/2004 9:21:55 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I'm earnestly praying for God's will in this election in Illinois and for the Presidency. ...I'm hitting the emails fast and furious to get people in the area informed.

Thank you A-G!


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302 posted on 08/11/2004 9:25:07 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: unspun

Buuuump!


303 posted on 08/11/2004 9:27:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MJY1288
The Dem Convention had a Impeached President speak on the first night
On the second night they had fat drunk who left a young to drown in his car
The third night they had a guy who lied about who he is
And the final night they had a Flip Flopping Apocalypse Now wanna be accept the nomination!!!

Don't forget the Anti-American slob who makes bad movies

304 posted on 08/11/2004 9:36:03 PM PDT by CaraM
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To: LWalk18

"What does his fsther's past have to do with him? If your father is a Muslim, then you must be labelled a Muslim even if you practice another religion? Is Islam a race? Unless the columnist can show that Barack himself is a Muslim who is pretending to be Christian (not his father, siblings, etc.) , then this is silly. The goat herder lie is the only one that is interesting to me, sort of like Edward's "son of a mill worker" claim when his father was the manager."

I agree.

I'd like to know if his family owned(s) slaves and if he benefited from affirmative action. I would like to see the end of A.A. and think it bad enough that people who's ancestors were never slaves benefit from it. If his ancestors ever owned slaves, and he benefited from A.A., that, well, if I said what I'm thinking I'd be band.


305 posted on 08/11/2004 9:38:05 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: CaraM
I left that out on purpose, I was waiting for someone to mention that STAIN Michael Moore. If I was running the Bush campaign, I would put together a video of John Kerry heaping praise on the Hollywood crowd when he said they represented the "Heart & Soul of America" and then show Michael Moore sitting next to Jimmy Carter in the Presidential Box at the Dem Convention and then to the clip where Michael Moore compared the enemy we are fighting in Iraq to our Minute Men
306 posted on 08/11/2004 9:43:03 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: fourdeuce82d
yup. I'm all for slamming the 'rats, but unsubtantiated claims can backfire.

Unfortunately, so do SUBSTANTIATED ones with this Stalinist media.

307 posted on 08/11/2004 9:56:52 PM PDT by montag813
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To: reformedliberal
Go to www.andymartin.com. He's a Republican running for Senate in FL. He has a *legal defense fund*.

He has an impressive resume. Special Forces. Lawyer. Senatorial aide. Activist.

308 posted on 08/11/2004 10:00:51 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Waco
Reckon he spent Xmas in Cambodia in 68? If not, why not?

No he was too young to be sent by "President Nixon" in 1968.

309 posted on 08/11/2004 10:02:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: drjimmy
There are many more press releases like this at his website. Do you really want FR to be associated with this nutjob Andy Martin?

How are we associated with him? We are simply amusedly commenting on these allegations. It is nice to see Obama attacked by a fellow Lefite rather than a "businessman associated with Karl Rove", lol.

310 posted on 08/11/2004 10:05:45 PM PDT by montag813
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To: mystery-ak

I posted during the Dem convention--forget what thread--that Obama's father was an African Muslim.

He obviously comes from a wealthy African family. His portrayal of his father as a goatherd was disingenuous to say the least. Yes, he could have actually helped to heard goats, in the context of being a wealthy landowner's son. However, portraying him as a goatherd suggests a far more lowly and humble origin.

I don't know this writer/reporter, but I think it is interesting and probably true. That Obama has lied is obvious without this post/story because his actions and voting record as posted and written about earlier do not fit.

vaudine


311 posted on 08/11/2004 10:10:43 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: tbpiper
No wonder he was the keynote speaker at the Dem's convention. Well if this is accurate anyway. LOL
312 posted on 08/11/2004 10:11:47 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: TN4Liberty

This is presented as allegations, not a MM documentary of truth.

vaudine


313 posted on 08/11/2004 10:26:56 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: JustPiper

If Durbin is your Sen. perhaps you can answer a question I have had for a long time. Why does IL send this man back to the Senate? He talks like a complete off the wall nutcase liberal. I mean, his assertions (accusations) of the Repubs and Bush are ludicrous.

vaudine


314 posted on 08/11/2004 10:31:42 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: JustPiper

Yes!
You are a poet,
and didn't know it!

Oh.............but yes you knew!

Hey JP!!
Glad he's gone.
We just got to keep a look-out for those rats!


315 posted on 08/11/2004 10:37:49 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: Gelato
You may have interest in this thread...Citizen alert: Wirsing and Obama are stalking our livers
A person's body is a temple. Thus says the Lord. But why is it that the Illinois legislature, led by radical muslim activist Sen. Barack Obama (D-Chicago) and DeKalb County's own Rep. David Wirsing (R-Sycamore) are trying to defile that temple?
Looks like this info was known, by The Illinois Leader anyway, way back in September 2003.
Nothing new here. Ignorance still prevails and it still causes Democrat bliss.
316 posted on 08/11/2004 10:44:51 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: MJY1288

The Wexler kid, Ilana Wexler. Among her other wit & wisdom, she dissed Vice President Cheney.

I missed it to; I was only able to read it.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/convention2004/ilanawexler2004dnc.htm

A sample:

[AUTHENTICITY CERTIFIED: Text version below transcribed directly from audio]

My name is Ilana Wexler. I'm 12 years old, and I am the founder of "Kids for Kerry."

Kids for Kerry is a grassroots organization of kids that support John Kerry, want to help their futures, and get active in politics...

...When our Vice President had a disagreement with a Democratic senator, he used a REALLY BAD word.

If I said that -- If I said that word, I would be put in a "time-out."

I think he should be put in a time-out...

...Kids need -- Kids need positive -- Kids need positive role models in politics. And our Vice President deserves a longgggggg time-out.



She is from Oakland, Ca; and I have tried to learn without success whether she is related to Robert Wexler.


317 posted on 08/11/2004 10:45:46 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: JustPiper
radical muslim activist Sen. Barack Obama (D-Chicago)

JP, please see #316!

318 posted on 08/11/2004 11:07:40 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: JustPiper
What bother's me is on google/yahoo search there are many Andy Martin's, how do we even know this is the same man who called the press conference as the one taunted about running for Fla Senate?

Good question. I guess we don't ... yet.

319 posted on 08/11/2004 11:41:46 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Chieftain
That guy is a commie pinko islamofascist dog. The people in the conservative parts of Illinois (any where outside of Chicago) do not want this man in the Senate. I think he is trying to be another Harold Ford Jr. The man is divisive despite his speech at the DNC convention.
320 posted on 08/12/2004 5:36:27 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when in comes to black conservatives!)
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To: smiley

"Man o Man..these democrats just can't help but keep the lies coming....."


The flood of lies out of their mouths has successfully deceived 1/3 of the people. They have set their sights to that 1/3 in the middle of the road. Those who have no ability to determine "RIGHT" from "WRONG", waiting around to see who the winner will be.


321 posted on 08/12/2004 5:42:44 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ApplegateRanch
I'd like to give her a time-out... a time-out shoveling the shit her parents filled her head with. F-ing libs/socialists always use their kids as props. It's a favorite of the FagMarriage forces.

Hanoi Kerry would drag his kids w/him when he knew the press was looking for a statement. When the questions came he bowed out saying he had an appointment and would point to the kids.

322 posted on 08/12/2004 6:03:13 AM PDT by johnny7 (“You know... my 40 ft. Hinckley is named ''The Scaramouch'!” -Jawn Fawbs Karrie)
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To: Warrior Nurse
The man is divisive despite his speech at the DNC convention.

Liberals are divisive by nature! I say the good Illinois FReepers should host a pig roast and invite Obama for a pork sandwich, then expose his Islamofascist ass!

323 posted on 08/12/2004 6:21:25 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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To: Gelato

WOW. Hussein eh ? Plus the last name is too close to Osama. Coincidence ? I think not.


324 posted on 08/12/2004 6:25:08 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: JustPiper

JP thanks for the ping to this story. Any and all info. on Obama and his Muslim ties need to be exposed. This so called "Christian", does not have the values or views to match that claim.


325 posted on 08/12/2004 7:08:15 AM PDT by all4one (TM - Not a Proper Social Club & Not for the Fainthearted)
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To: Gelato
I forwarded this to a friend who replied with this:

British East Africa (Kenya, Tanzania & Uganda) was/is a mixture of Christian & Muslim. I should know, I lived in Tanzania from 1971-72.

Even if the Obama family had money, the kids would still have been sent to the 'shambas' (farms) to work. To this day families' wealth is measured in livestock.

Yes, the Mau Mau was a terrible time in the struggle for Kenyan independence. Both the British & the Mau Mau committed atrocities & approx 4000 people died, 32 of whom were white settlers. But the Mau Mau was mainly a Kikuyu (the majority tribe) secret society, not Luo.

If anyone is interested in a quick history lesson of Kenya, this is quite good:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/country_profiles/1026884.stm

326 posted on 08/12/2004 8:34:41 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Gelato

Yowza!


327 posted on 08/12/2004 8:36:22 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: Gelato

Obama bin Lyin' ?


328 posted on 08/12/2004 8:40:45 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Gelato

Just as a clarification, Barak is the name of one of the judges who ruled Isreal between the time of Joshua and King Saul.

Barak was instructed by the Prophetess Deborah to raise an Army against the Canaanites. (Who had ruled Israel for forty years.) He says he will only go if she will be at his side. Deborah agrees to go, but tells Barak he will have to share his glory with a women. This happens when the Canaanite General Sisera escapes from battle. He seeks refuge in the tent of Heber. Jael, Hebers wife, gives Sisera milk to drink and he falls asleep. As he is sleeping Jael drives a nail in his head.

The victory song of Deborah and Barak is recorded in Judges Chapter 5. Israel is at peace for forty years. Barak is listed as one the "Heros of Faith" in Hebrews Chapter 11.

The name Barak is of particular interest to me as it is the name of my Great Great Grandfather. Who, by the way, was a Scotsman and the men in his family were all given biblical names.


329 posted on 08/12/2004 12:43:47 PM PDT by SuzanneC
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To: vaudine

Durbin is a butt buddy of the Chgo machine, Crook County carries da ball


330 posted on 08/12/2004 3:06:19 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: texasbluebell

Thank you for your double alert, when Keyes becomes Senator, he will know how someone from Texas helped get him in ;)


331 posted on 08/12/2004 3:08:08 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: Warrior Nurse

Harold Ford Jr

That is EXACTLY who he reminded me of!

Lets See:

Democratic Socialists
Black Caucus
Black Dem Socialist

Yep, Ford and Obama!


332 posted on 08/12/2004 3:10:38 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: philman_36

radical muslim activist Sen. Barack Obama (D-Chicago)

Cecelia Hessing - DeKalb

Personal Opinion?


333 posted on 08/12/2004 3:13:18 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Obama bin Lyin' "Hussein"


334 posted on 08/12/2004 3:15:41 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obama- No More Free Ride to the Illinois Senate !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Personal Opinion?
I don't understand the question. Are you asking if I've got a personal opinion in there somewhere? If so, no. If not, please elaborate.
I was just trying to show that Barak's muslim characteristics have been known for quite some time.
It doesn't make sense to me how this could suddenly be "new" news or how he could've been "hiding" anything when it's been known for some time.
I guess some were still ignorant of his past after all of this time.
335 posted on 08/12/2004 6:30:06 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: mystery-ak
"Barack Senior was also a devoted Muslim, and also chose a Muslim name for his son, our own Barack Obama, Junior. Again, his name was an Arabic and Koranic.

Obama has spent a lifetime running from his family heritage and religious heritage. Would his father have given his son a Koranic name if the father was not a devout Muslim? Obama's stepfather was also a Muslim. Obama will be the first Muslim-heritage senator; he should be proud of that fact. There is nothing to be ashamed of in any of the three great Abrahamic religions.

"Fiction: Obama Senior was a harmless student 'immigrant' who came to the United States only to study. Fact: Obama was part of one of the most corrupt and violent organizations in Africa: the Kenyatta regime. Obama's father ran back to Kenya soon after the British left. It is likely Obama's father had Mau Mau sympathies or connections, or he would not have been welcomed into the murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists. I believe Obama's secret shame at his family history of rape, murder and arson is what actualizes him. Our research is not yet complete. We are seeking to examine British colonial records. Our investigation to date has drawn on information on three continents.

This bothers me, still. I wonder what influence Obama's family might have on him, especially considering that if elected he would have access to our nation's deepest security secrets.

336 posted on 08/12/2004 10:05:00 PM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: drjimmy

Me: If his mother married two Muslim men and Obama is hiding his Muslim background, that is legitimate news.

You: It wouldn't be news to those who bother to read post #70.

I have been in contact with several Jewish voters in Illinois and, despite the newspaper article you cite, Obama's Muslim background is NOT well known. It makes them uncomfortable when they hear about it.


337 posted on 08/13/2004 7:18:56 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
You: If his mother married two Muslim men and Obama is hiding his Muslim background, that is legitimate news.

Me: There is a world of difference between having a Muslim background and trying to hide a Muslim background. Since he hasn't tried to hide it (he talks about it in the newspaper stories about his background, not to mention in his own book), there's no news there. I would hazard a guess that 90% of people who hear his name think he is Muslim anyway (which he isn't). There are a thousand legitimate reasons to oppose Obama and support Keyes, but this isn't one of them.
338 posted on 08/13/2004 7:57:48 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: drjimmy
There are a thousand legitimate reasons to oppose Obama and support Keyes, but this isn't one of them.

I agree that there a thousand reasons to vote against Obama. However, if he has Muslim or pro-Arab sympathies that he is hiding, that would be a legitimate reason too.

For many Jewish voters, who normally vote Democratic, this would be a deciding issue and it is a legitmate issue to bring up.

It has to be publicized better.

339 posted on 08/13/2004 8:52:56 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Heyworth
but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.""

There is not a religious test to any office or public trust, but there should be a personal responsibility to vote for those who a wise. Christians believe that all wisdom comes from God. It is be wise to vote for those who truly fear God and are learned in the truths of Christ

340 posted on 08/14/2004 4:22:57 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: dead
Obama's claim that his father was a goatherder reminds me of John Edwards' claim that his father was a "mill worker" (when he was really the mill's manager). Obama's claim isn't a lie per se, but it omits information in a way that creates a more favorable -- or more politically useful -- impression of his background.

I agree that this is relatively weak stuff now. Time will tell if it's an early indicator of a more serious phony streak.

341 posted on 08/15/2004 4:49:21 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Gelato

I'm pretty sure I missed this one the first time, so here's a big ol' better-late-than-never BUMP.


342 posted on 06/09/2005 7:02:42 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: Gelato

wow!

whatta story.

the democrats myth machine made him into the new tiger woods on capital hill.


343 posted on 06/09/2005 7:06:02 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: Gelato

Let's see:

His father was a farmer
He says his father herded goats
Hmm... I'll bet there were goats on the farm
Nothing there.

He's a muslim.
So what.

Some of his relatives may have been unsavory.
He avoids his relatives.
Nothing there.

On the surface, this appears to be much ado about nothing.
I'm not getting excited yet.


344 posted on 06/09/2005 7:12:50 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: drjimmy

It will be interesting to see a third party report on this. If he is indeed concealing aspects of his background it is only important in that it is a reflection of charecter....I really do not care if he is a muslim or not, non-practicing or otherwise. But if he will mislead you on that, he will do it on other much more important things


345 posted on 06/18/2005 2:34:54 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: MattinNJ

I have Keyes personal number - have spoken with his personal secretary for years - never one returned call from him. So calling him will do squat.
Regards,
G Rice


346 posted on 10/23/2006 4:46:12 AM PDT by RICESKI (bump)
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To: Gelato

ping


347 posted on 11/02/2006 6:29:26 PM PST by phs3
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To: phs3

Bookmarking even though it's an old thread. Times change, and study is required.


348 posted on 11/02/2006 6:33:05 PM PST by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: Gelato

I'll have to hear a lot more before I bite this hook.


349 posted on 11/02/2006 6:37:41 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Gelato

Hmm let's see... He hides his religion, His dad was involved in the mob, wild youth...HE IS THE NEW KENNEDY!!!!


350 posted on 12/11/2006 12:24:04 PM PST by happy123945 (Obama's the new JFK)
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