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Didn't one of the terrorist threats from Al Jazeera call the next attack on US soil "The Cave of Darkness"? Could this be what they're planning?
1 posted on 08/12/2004 12:37:19 PM PDT by vajimbo
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To: vajimbo

The whole-nation orbital scenario seems pretty remote for terrorists, but the cosatal scud that takes out a Metro area is plausible.

It would make those paranoid survival/preparedness folks look pretty clever.


2 posted on 08/12/2004 12:41:20 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: vajimbo

Blackouts don't scare me much. I went over 6 days without electricity in June. I have a 5,000 watt DeVillbiss generator that carried me fine for that week.


3 posted on 08/12/2004 12:45:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Here, bite down on this.)
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Nukes are the brute-force method for generating EMP, but there are other ways using conventional explosives. Somewhere, buried in all of Charlie's links, is a schematic of a conventional-powered EMP warhead:

http://www.softwar.net/

BTW, SoftWar has a lot of stuff many people don't know about, or have forgotten- it's worth a long look.


4 posted on 08/12/2004 12:53:17 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: sneakers

bump


7 posted on 08/12/2004 12:58:05 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: vajimbo

Doesn't an EMP only fry the electrical systems of things that are actually running at the time?

In other words if a car was on when hit by an EMP it'd be trashed but if it wasn't running no damage.


9 posted on 08/12/2004 12:59:28 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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Definitely a concern, but that's why NORAD exists. They would see the moment an ICBM is launched and our MERVS would be on the way, not to mention our growing missle defense systems now being put in place. China, Russia, or any other country would be in the same boat, or worse. That's why MAD works.

The terrorist barge/scud scenerio is highly implausible. Satellite imaging would detect such an operation off shore. The various intel agencies monitor our coasts very closely. We may not be able to stop every crazy with a box cutter, bomb belt, or even a dirty bomb, but missle strikes are another thing.

Also, it's my understanding our coasts are constantly patrolled by defensive aircraft. The moment a short-range missle was launched, they would head to intercept with air to air missles which would be faster, providing they are within the required proximity to the scud. With our technology and defense capabilities, I just don't see that scenerio happening.

16 posted on 08/12/2004 1:14:37 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.swiftvets.com)
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Has anyone seen Snake Plisken lately.

I heard he was dead.

32 posted on 08/12/2004 2:49:01 PM PDT by usurper
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If a nuke is exploded above the US much less in the US, the US would retaliate shortly afterwards in a highly disproportionate fashion. So I don't see what China or Russia have to gain from such weapons.


35 posted on 08/12/2004 8:24:35 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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This is certainly worth thinking about and preparing for, but the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) works here just as much as it does for nuclear weapons. If Russia or China were to do it to us, we'd turn right around and do it to them.

As for al Qaeda, their chances of getting their hands on a nuclear missile, or being able to rig some sort of major nuclear bomb onto a Scud (a so-called "suitcase nuke" wouldn't cut it) are zero.

36 posted on 08/12/2004 8:35:23 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ˇ°ml maximizeˇ± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: vajimbo
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37 posted on 08/12/2004 8:47:41 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: vajimbo

scary ping


38 posted on 08/13/2004 6:59:02 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: vajimbo
This scenario keeps coming up. It is NOT something that is feasible for terrorists.

It would take multiple one-megaton H-bombs, detonated in space, to create EMP events that would cover the whole US. Only the Russians, maybe the Chinese, have that sort of capability, and neither would be looking forward to our response. We WOULD respond to a nuclear attack with nukes.

57 posted on 09/08/2012 5:42:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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