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[Cal.] Drivers Licenses [for illegal immigrants; another deal in the works?]
California Insider Weblog (Sacramento Bee) ^ | August 12, 2004 | Daniel Weintraub

Posted on 08/12/2004 3:00:30 PM PDT by pogo101

There's been a flurry of activity on the illegal immigrant drivers license issue in the past day or so. Sen. Gil Cedillo says the governor has given him a counter-offer to his latest proposal and the two are in serious negotiations. Cedillo says a deal is near. Of course, lots of Democrats have said they were "near" deals with the governor this year that never seemed to materialize. Cedillo plans to brief reporters on the latest developments later today.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; arnold; california; cedillo; illegal; immigration; licenses; sacramento; schwarzenegger
That's NOT an excerpt; it's the whole blog entry. (FR makes me click on the excerpt box.)

Jeeze. I sure hope that Arnold is once again leading Cedillo and the other socialist-racists down the primrose path. If he agrees to anything giving the incidents of LEGAL presence, to those here illegally, I'll be the first to sign the next recall petition.

1 posted on 08/12/2004 3:00:37 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: NormsRevenge; John Jorsett; calcowgirl

Ping. Worth pinging to any Cal government lists you may have?? Your call.


2 posted on 08/12/2004 3:02:00 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

As soon as it is signed, the petitions to overturn will be waiting on the web.


3 posted on 08/12/2004 3:04:09 PM PDT by rumrunner
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To: pogo101

He said he would sign nothing with an urgency clause attached. Even if an agreement is made the people will have th opportunity to overturn it. Then, let loose the next recall petition!


4 posted on 08/12/2004 3:04:17 PM PDT by InsensitiveConservative
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To: pogo101
Jeeze. I sure hope that Arnold is once again leading Cedillo and the other socialist-racists down the primrose path. If he agrees to anything giving the incidents of LEGAL presence, to those here illegally, I'll be the first to sign the next recall petition

Never underestimate a pol. AS has to be smart enough to know that he is history to do this. I will be #2 to recall him if this happens. But who really is AS. What has hew done to improve anything for us here in lala land.

5 posted on 08/12/2004 3:30:17 PM PDT by Digger
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To: pogo101
If he agrees to anything giving the incidents of LEGAL presence, to those here illegally,

Say what?

Is that sorta, kinda like being a little bit pregnant?

Anything he agrees to will give aid and comfort to our enemy. Any official acknowledgment of their presence, beyond a deportation order, and the dam has burst, the barn door is open, the cat's out of the bag, take your pick, and the damage is done.

If Schwarzenegger speaks we loose.

6 posted on 08/12/2004 3:30:18 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: pogo101
Jeeze. I sure hope that Arnold is once again leading Cedillo and the other socialist-racists down the primrose path. If he agrees to anything giving the incidents of LEGAL presence, to those here illegally, I'll be the first to sign the next recall petition

Never underestimate a pol. AS has to be smart enough to know that he is history to do this. I will be #2 to recall him if this happens. But who really is AS. What has hew done to improve anyting for us here in lala land.

7 posted on 08/12/2004 3:31:11 PM PDT by Digger
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To: pogo101; kellynla; MindFire; farmfriend; SierraWasp; tubebender

Thanks pogo... I'll ping a couple for the heck of it.

There was supposedly an SB1160 hearing today... anybody know the outcome?


8 posted on 08/12/2004 3:33:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: pogo101


When Arnold was elected he said he would sign a drivers license bill for illegals if it meant his requirements. So far the legislature has not come up with a bill Arnold could sign. I heard McClintock on the radio the other day say that the legislature may never come up with a bill Arnold could accept. As a result a bill may never hit the governors desk. In any event this is a big test for Arnold. If he expects to keep those high positive ratings and get reelected he cannot allow illegals to get licenses. It would probably get overturned by the initiative process any way, but why risk the chance.


9 posted on 08/12/2004 3:47:16 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal

I wish he had the guts to just say that it was not open to negotiation, period. But I don't see Arnold taking a tough stand on anything.


10 posted on 08/12/2004 4:13:58 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


11 posted on 08/12/2004 4:15:37 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: pogo101

Does CA require SS #'s for a drivers license?


12 posted on 08/12/2004 4:20:34 PM PDT by djf
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To: djf
Does CA require SS #'s for a drivers license?

Yes. It's listed in the requirements here:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#2500

13 posted on 08/12/2004 4:26:45 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: calcowgirl; farmfriend

As you know, there's a whole bunch of hearings on several malignantly Socialistic propositions. I'm standing on one foot, then the other waiting for up-dates by anyone!!!


14 posted on 08/12/2004 4:32:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: gubamyster

Staying tuned...


15 posted on 08/12/2004 4:36:34 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: pogo101
The only reasons politicians cater to illegal aliens is that they are corrupt, sleeper agents, want us to become a Third World country, and/or they are mentally ill.

There is no reason whatsover to support these criminals. They should be rounde up and deported.

16 posted on 08/12/2004 4:44:47 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: pogo101

I hate to say it, but yes.


17 posted on 08/12/2004 6:26:38 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl

We'll be lucky if the legislative info site is updated by Fri. I think cal had a better site that was updated sooner. I'm in Grass Valley so I don't have access to my links.


18 posted on 08/12/2004 7:11:16 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: calcowgirl; Amerigomag; farmfriend; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; FairOpinion; DoughtyOne; kellynla; ...
Not yet, but here's an interesting cover story from the Sacramento BEE's only competitor
19 posted on 08/13/2004 8:01:38 AM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: television is just wrong

The get a License they VOTE. Good bye US of A...


20 posted on 08/13/2004 8:02:52 AM PDT by Area51 (RINO Hunter, Big Time)
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To: calcowgirl
I just found this article from yesterday 8-12:

http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/8982343p-9876368c.html

"In June, SB 1160 was placed in the Senate Appropriations Committee suspense file, which can be a graveyard for bills that cost too much or don't have enough support. The bill is on today's committee agenda, but Cedillo has asked that it not be voted on so he can focus on negotiations with Schwarzenegger."


Meanwhile a woman called in to Putnam and gave a report on the hutchinson meeting in temecula. She said Asa told the crowd there are 10,000 border agents on southern border, & 1000 on northern border,. He claimed there were never sweeps and they never cancelled them. he was red faced and almost walked out several times. Tried to diffuse the situation by opening questions it up to the audience, as opposed to the plan which was to use blue cards with pre-approved questions.

.. The woman said it was a very hostile crowd & Asa knows how to slick em over. tons of cameras 1000 people there,.. issa was booed several times,, asa said he doesnt want them (illegals) to 'live in fear'. it was reported to the crowd that 40 illegals were arrested on our naval base. illegals working at L.A. airport.. Asa said 'we have 8-12 million illegals. 40% have expired visas. we need biometric ids as a solution.. There was a lot of yelling and booing, chants of booing 'liar liar' . Asa said 40% illegals come thru az...asa said he doesnt like racial profiling 'its against the constitution'. Meeting lasted from 10:30AM -to 12:10PM. The crowd said stop all invasion, many mentioned 'Article 4 section 4'.


Meanwhile McClintock was on with George and gave this report on the budget:

There was a $4 Billion spending deficit last year.. this year if there are no cost overruns or revenue shortfalls. there is a $4.7 Billion dollar deficit.

Tom said spending is growing faster under Arnie than under davis. 7% increase under davis 7.3% increase in spending with arnie.

The govt spent $202 per person 40 yrs ago, when Unrue and Pat Brown were in office. (which works out to $1200 today with modern inflation adjustment terms.) We built highways, education systems, hydro electric and nuclear facilities, etc. Today we spend $2900 per person. and what are we getting?

"We are not headed in the right direction".

21 posted on 08/13/2004 1:14:18 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: Dante3
"The only reasons politicians cater to illegal aliens is that they are corrupt, sleeper agents, want us to become a Third World country, and/or they are mentally ill."

LMAO!! Amen to that. The saddest part is, most people are so blindly partisan that they only talk about the 'evil dems' but they never even consider that many in the GOP have the exact same agenda. I respect that you aren't oblivious to the truth of their traitorous nature. By the way, Cedillo has admitted that his people work with jeb Bush's people. but oh, sure.. the 'dems and repubs' are 'arch enemies'. ;-D

22 posted on 08/13/2004 1:19:49 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: SierraWasp

see my reply #21. also an update on the hutchinson meeting from a woman who was there this morning


23 posted on 08/13/2004 1:24:51 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: MindFire

bttt


24 posted on 08/13/2004 3:43:51 PM PDT by Dante3
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