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Edwards responds to Cheney's criticism of Kerry (More "War Hero" Horsecrap)
AP ^ | 8-13-04 | Kathy Barks Hoffman

Posted on 08/13/2004 4:27:54 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Edwards responds to Cheney's criticism of Kerry

By KATHY BARKS HOFFMAN
The Associated Press
8/13/2004, 4:14 p.m. ET

FLINT, Mich. (AP) — A day after Vice President Dick Cheney criticized John Kerry, Democratic Sen. John Edwards defended his running mate on Friday, saying he "spilled his blood for the United States" and accusing the Republican of distorting Kerry's words.

Cheney told voters in Ohio Thursday that Kerry had called for a "more sensitive" war on terror and mocked that notion as something that won't impress the Sept. 11 terrorists or the Islamic militants who have beheaded U.S. citizens.

Edwards, returning to the campaign after a three-day break, took issue with Cheney's comments and his target — Democratic presidential nominee Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran.

"He took that word and distorted and tried to use it to argue John Kerry will not keep the American people safe," Edwards said during a campaign stop in Flint. "He's talking about a man who still carries shrapnel in his body. He's talking about a man who spilled his blood for the United States of America."

At a minority journalists' convention last week, Kerry said: "I believe I can fight a more effective, more thoughtful, more strategic, more proactive, more sensitive war on terror that reaches out to other nations and brings them to our side and lives up to American values in history."

Edwards on Friday also discussed his 2002 vote to give President Bush the military authority to oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

"I think it was correct to give the president the authority that he was given," Edwards said in an interview with The Associated Press following the event. "I think the president has misused and abused the authority he was given. ... And the American people, our troops, the American taxpayers have paid dearly as a result."

Kerry said this week he stands by his vote despite the failure to find weapons of mass destruction. But the four-term Massachusetts senator added that Bush used the authority poorly, rushing to war with limited allied support and little thought to an end game.

Edwards' visit to Flint focused on issues polls show are even higher than security on Michigan voters' list of concerns: jobs and the economy.

"What it is is an effort to distract, not to talk about the problems here in Flint, Michigan," the North Carolina senator told the audience of more than 1,000, who gathered in a drizzling rain outside Mott Community College.

Prior to the rally, Edwards held a front-porch meeting with some Flint voters.

One was Susan Duffiny, who was laid off in 2002 from her factory job in Auburn Hills. The Flint woman was retrained as a computer network administrator but has yet to land a job in that field.

"I'm sure there are a lot of people in trouble who don't have health care," Duffiny told Edwards.

"Oh, I can tell you there are a lot of people in trouble," Edwards told her. "For us, jobs are a big issue."

Twenty-seven percent of likely Michigan voters surveyed recently by Lansing-based EPIC/MRA said improving the economy and providing jobs was their biggest concern, nearly twice as many as those listing health care or terrorism, which tied for second.

The state unemployment rate remains a full point above the national rate at 6.5 percent. Flint's unemployment rate was 14.5 percent in June, while the rate in surrounding Genesee County was 8.5 percent.


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"What it is is an effort to distract, not to talk about the problems here in Flint, Michigan,"

WTF have you or Kerry done for Flint while in the Senate? Oh yeah, you both backed OUTSOURCING.

1 posted on 08/13/2004 4:27:55 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

That "Kerry was a war hero" argument is so anorexic now that it isn't even funny.


2 posted on 08/13/2004 4:29:01 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Dan from Michigan
WTF have you or Kerry done for Flint while in the Senate?

They didn't provide any money for AutoWorld, that should count in their favor.

3 posted on 08/13/2004 4:30:12 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Dan from Michigan

Spilled his blood? Good grief.


4 posted on 08/13/2004 4:30:25 PM PDT by ShandaLear (The Kerry/Edwards Plan for Prosperity: Marry Well & Sue the Rich)
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To: Dan from Michigan

You know, considering what happened the LAST time Edwards opened his mouth...("ask the guys who served with him...")

...he might want to consider the old saying: "When you're in deep water, it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut."


5 posted on 08/13/2004 4:31:21 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: ShandaLear
John Edwards defended his running mate on Friday, saying he "spilled his blood for the United States" and accusing the Republican of distorting Kerry's words

Right Breck Girl....he got a boo-boo and put a Flintsone band-aid on it.

6 posted on 08/13/2004 4:32:38 PM PDT by Dog ( Attention: Everyone check their briefcase for their "magic" secret agent hat... That is all.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

"WTF have you or Kerry done for Flint while in the Senate?"

They have Michael Moore on their side. He defeated the Goliath auto makers in Flint and brought lasting prosperity to the newly freed serfs in the movie 'Roger and me.'

Don't you know?

Kerry served in Viet Nam too.


7 posted on 08/13/2004 4:35:23 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I love the smell of Kerry's bullsh*t in the morning. Smells like...victory.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm sure I spilled more blood during childbirth than Kerry ever has.


8 posted on 08/13/2004 4:37:38 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Let the LAWYER explain what I meant....


9 posted on 08/13/2004 4:37:41 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Dan from Michigan

Edwards said during a campaign stop in Flint. "He's talking about a man who still carries shrapnel in his body.

First I've heard this one.


10 posted on 08/13/2004 4:38:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Kerry may have "spilled his blood for the United States", but not very much. By his agitation for the anti-war movement after returning from Viet Nam, he is probably responsible for spilling the blood of a LOT more GIs, in casualties incurred because the war was prolonged and eventually abandoned. And not to mention the discussion of assassination attempts on members of Congress while a member of VVAW.


11 posted on 08/13/2004 4:39:39 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Dan from Michigan
Edwards: He's talking about a man [Kerry] who still carries shrapnel in his body.

Attn: Bush Team Lurkers! This appears as BS to me.

Show me the x-rays!

12 posted on 08/13/2004 4:39:43 PM PDT by narby (Kerry: I was actually in Cambodia, before I was near it.)
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To: ShandaLear

"Spilled his blood? Good grief."

He's a man among girlie-men.


13 posted on 08/13/2004 4:39:45 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Dan from Michigan
Think Cheney's got a nuclear response to this 'I'm good on defense because I was in Nam' horsecrap? You betcha....wait for Jean Jr. to get blown apart by it in the debates..... :-)
14 posted on 08/13/2004 4:41:05 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Actually, I have heard Kerry is full of shrapnel...or something like that.


15 posted on 08/13/2004 4:41:31 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Dan from Michigan
"He's talking about a man who still carries shrapnel in his body. He's talking about a man who spilled his blood for the United States of America."

Please tell me where Kerry's carrying shrapnel in his body, and why wasn't it removed? When did he "spill his blood for the United States?" I didn't think a scratch "spilled blood." Edwards acts like he's talking to a jury. He's laying it on thick.

What exactly did Edwards do for the United States, besides driving medical malpractice insurance rates through the roof, causing medical fees to rise?

16 posted on 08/13/2004 4:41:36 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

LOLOL......the Breck girl rides to the rescue of the big time war hero!!!! LOLOL


17 posted on 08/13/2004 4:42:17 PM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Chris Matthews on "Hardball" just said that Cheney was most responsible for putting US troops in Saudi Arabia, and...who were the terrorists that attacked on 9/11? Saudis....and....therefore Cheney is responsible for 9/11. How's that for twisting the truth? Matthews, the reporterette and the trail dude all agreed, though, that the "sensitive" issue has bitten Kerry hard. Of course, then Matthews accused Cheney of San Fran baiting, i.e., Cheney is attempting to make Kerry look gay. Nice, huh?
18 posted on 08/13/2004 4:44:02 PM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (Ho, Ho..John K..how many lies did you tell today? Ho, ho..John K..how many lies did you tell today?)
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To: Christian4Bush

"...he might want to consider the old saying: "When you're in deep water, it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut.""

Or, "when you see a sinking ship, don't try to get on board".


19 posted on 08/13/2004 4:48:40 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: ShandaLear

I wouldn't consider one drop an actual "spilling" of blood.


20 posted on 08/13/2004 4:54:55 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: tet68
"He's talking about a man who still carries shrapnel in his body."

Uh, I believe Kerry has a plate in his head -- from a Croquet accident at Yale. Bwaaahaha

21 posted on 08/13/2004 4:55:51 PM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Kerry served in Viet Nam too.

Sho nit??!!!?

22 posted on 08/13/2004 4:56:13 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Flint's unemployment rate was 14.5 percent in June"

Thanks to labor unions.

23 posted on 08/13/2004 4:56:52 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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To: Spok
Actually, I have heard Kerry is full of shrapnel...or something like that.

Well, you got the first two letters right...

24 posted on 08/13/2004 4:57:49 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Dan from Michigan

he didn't spill a DROP of blood, John-Boy!


25 posted on 08/13/2004 4:57:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Edwards, a lying crapweasel plaintiff's attorney, alleges that Triator John "spilled his blood" and "carries shrapnel." OK, let's see your supporting evidence!! Relaease the secret military/medical records. Your failure/refusal to do so establishes that you are a lying scumbag! Easy-peasy!


26 posted on 08/13/2004 4:59:12 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: Dan from Michigan
"He's talking about a man who still carries shrapnel in his body.

Oh, blecchhh, blecchh, bleccchhh, hurl, hurl.

The only reason they are using Kerry's service for this campaign is to try to insulate him from any kind of criticism.

It's the same reason they used a twelve year old to give a speech.

They try to hide behind imagined sacred cows, in order to avoid any type of questioning or criticism.

27 posted on 08/13/2004 4:59:14 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Dan from Michigan

How many of us have spilled our blood for the Red Cross? A nosebleed? Scratching a scab?

Jeeze. Enough of the hero stuff.


28 posted on 08/13/2004 5:00:33 PM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: NRA2BFree

RELEASE YOUR MILITARY RECORDS, Senator Kerry, so that ALL can see!! Ths can be cleared up with just signing that 180 form....DO IT!!


29 posted on 08/13/2004 5:00:37 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I have seen my wife spill more blood shaving her legs than Kerry ever spilled for his country.


30 posted on 08/13/2004 5:02:54 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"spilled his blood for the United States"

Actually, he knew that if he sqeezed that little spot hard enough he could get some blood out of it.

31 posted on 08/13/2004 5:05:16 PM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Edwards said during a campaign stop in Flint. "He's talking about a man who still carries shrapnel in his body. He's talking about a man who spilled his blood for the United States of America."

Drama!

AHAHHAHA

I bet that's pillow talk between Edwards and Kerry."Tell me about the time you were in Cambodia honey!"

"Well, it was Christmas, no January and I was fighting the Cambodians and Red Chinese wait, no I twas so close that I could hear gunfire from the Cambodian border where.."a grunt comes from the Frenchierian Lurch,"Just tell me which version you want to hear Edwards. .. "

32 posted on 08/13/2004 5:05:22 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Zing!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Shrapnel = Rice, which is why Kerry always has that sour puss on his face.
33 posted on 08/13/2004 5:07:39 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Zing!)
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To: tet68

I think he does have shrapnel in a leg from the ONE bonefide PH injury


34 posted on 08/13/2004 5:09:07 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Kerry served in Vietnam?


35 posted on 08/13/2004 5:15:09 PM PDT by Jenya (Removed a brutal dictator, liberated millions....our thriving economy....Yep, it's Bush's fault.)
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To: billhilly

OK guys AND ladies...how many of us here can claim to have spilled OUR blood, due to the EVIL enemies, Gillette, Schick, and Bic??

Thats probably, about as close as kerry has ever come to REALLY "spilling his blood".

....IMHO, kerry probably asked the doc who was ready with the tweezers to remove the shrapnel in his thigh:

"Will this leave more of a scar if you dig in there with the tweezers to remove it?"

Doc:"Well it would be bigger if I dig it out"

kerry:" Just leave it then.I don't want a seeable scar when
I wear shorts to ride my bike, play tennis, go boating, water skiing, pick up a new heiress,......etc."


36 posted on 08/13/2004 5:16:34 PM PDT by musicman
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To: Dan from Michigan

Kerry’s Vietnam record is protecting him from his own senate record. At this time in the election he should be explaining why he has the most liberal voting record and hasn’t sponsored or co-sponsored anything.

He is a follower! That is the picture of Kerry that will win the election. Nobody wants a follower to lead the country.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


37 posted on 08/13/2004 5:19:02 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: mylife

"I think he does have shrapnel in a leg from the ONE bonefide PH injury."

I think you are right, but it was so small and insignificant, they didn't bother to find it, or couldn't.

Count on Kerry to suddenly develop a limp now.........


38 posted on 08/13/2004 5:20:36 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (Kerry's response to the Swiftvets: no facts, just attacks.)
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To: SpinyNorman
Count on Kerry to suddenly develop a limp now.........

L0L

39 posted on 08/13/2004 5:22:26 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood
I bet that's pillow talk between Edwards and Kerry."Tell me about the time you were in Cambodia honey!"

Pillow talk - LOL! I can picture them with hairnets on to protect their "do's"

40 posted on 08/13/2004 5:24:18 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Jenya

Help me to learn. Was EDWARDS in Vietnam? He would have been of draftable age during the time. Did he get a deferrment?


41 posted on 08/13/2004 5:24:29 PM PDT by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: SpinyNorman

Spilled blood from his butt pimple wound? I didn't think it was that bad.


42 posted on 08/13/2004 5:25:40 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Use It Or Lose It

Matthews seems to be going completely bonkers, he doesn't even bother to make the remotest sense any more.


43 posted on 08/13/2004 5:25:48 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Let he who has ears to hear, hear. Support the heroes of the SwiftBoat Vets.)
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To: boop

I seem to recall that Edwards was in deferrment world during Vietnam. Not sure of the details though.


44 posted on 08/13/2004 5:27:30 PM PDT by Jenya (Removed a brutal dictator, liberated millions....our thriving economy....Yep, it's Bush's fault.)
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To: tet68

Since Kerry claims they pulled the shrapnel out in an interview he gave.....This is going to come back on them.

ONCE AGAIN, DEMS HAVE MADE KERRY VIETNAM EXPERIENCE AN ISSUE....
So they should not complain when the Swifties expose the truth about that service.

KERRY.....WANN TALK ABOUT NAM? RELEASE YOUR RECORDS!


45 posted on 08/13/2004 5:29:36 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: SpinyNorman
"I think he does have shrapnel in a leg from the ONE bonefide PH injury."

Ok, one PH was from shrapnel from a grenade launcher that he shot too close to the beach. The PH was illegitimate because is was self inflicted and I'm not sure if he was under fire. Somebody testified the shrapnel was sticking in his skin, they pulled it out and put a bandaid on it.

Another PH was a concussion grenade he put in a pile of rice, also self inflicted, and I'm not sure if he was under fire then either. Someone testified they picked the rice out of his butt with tweezers. (eeeeewwwwww)

Another PH was for bruising his arm when the mines hit PCF3. At least he was under fire that time, but I don't think I'd award a PH for a bruise.

Am I missing something?

Where's the shrapnel?

46 posted on 08/13/2004 5:33:19 PM PDT by narby (Kerry: I was actually in Cambodia, before I was near it.)
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To: Christian4Bush
Actually, I have heard Kerry is full of shrapnel...or something like that.

Well, you got the first two letters right...

.....or the next 3

47 posted on 08/13/2004 5:34:04 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: Jenya

"I seem to recall that Edwards was in deferrment world during Vietnam. Not sure of the details though."

Believe he graduated from high school in 1971.

The point is, he's a small town southern boy who, until he was elected Senator from NC (where he has done little for the people who elected him) had no executive leadership experience, no experience in government, no experience with the military, and has never met a payroll or learned anything about creating productivity and wealth in an economy.

He did learn, during his law practice, that you can ACQUIRE a lot of wealth quickly. He did this by pretending to be for the "little people," knowing full well that if he won lawsuits, the bulk of the award would go to the lawyer. Meanwhile, thousands of people's insurance premiums and other costs would go up to pay for the wealth transfer into his bank account.

Now, he wants to promise help for the "little people" with taxpayer dollars (using government taxing power to take the hard-earned dollars of many for the benefit of others) in exchange for votes. Trading promises for votes is how unscrupulous politicians attain power.

Let him go out on this Vietnam hero limb as far as he is willing to go. Perhaps he has hitched his wagon to the wrong star.



48 posted on 08/13/2004 5:46:50 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: tet68

Yeah, but what they don't tell you is, that it was RICE, and everyone knows that RICE is very hard to get rid of.


49 posted on 08/13/2004 5:49:37 PM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: agrarianlady

I'm sure I spilled more blood during childbirth than Kerry ever has.


sick,but funny...


50 posted on 08/13/2004 6:29:54 PM PDT by badmrbunny
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