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After Charley awaits Bush-President prepares to funnel aid for disaster in key electoral state
press telegram ^ | Friday August 12, 2004 | Calvin Woodward

Posted on 08/14/2004 3:26:38 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Once Hurricane Charley is gone from Florida, it's a safe bet President Bush (news - web sites) will sweep in. Natural calamities present political opportunity, and many crucial electoral votes are in the path of Charley's howling winds. Bush swiftly issued a disaster declaration to expedite federal aid as Charley tore into the Florida Gulf Coast on Friday. He was acting on a request that had come from his brother Jeb, the governor, even before the ferocious storm made landfall. The president was expected to visit the area in the aftermath.

Officials are loath to ascribe campaign motives to emergency response, but politics infuses everything this close to an election. No more so than in the state that handed Bush the presidency.

"This provides both opportunities and real dangers for the president," said Dario Moreno, a Florida International University political scientist who was safe from the storm in Miami.

Presidents are measured by the aid and sympathy that follow a big hit from nature, and Moreno said Bush stands to gain as long as he treats the emergency as more than a chance to roll up his sleeves and clear a bit of rubble for the cameras.

"If he looks like he's doing this for a photo opportunity, it's going to backfire on him," he said. "He has to make sure FEMA and the emergency aid responders are working around the clock and without a hitch."

The hurricane bore down not only on the scene-stealing state of the last election, but one of the most politically dynamic parts of it — the western and central counties where both parties are in heated competition for the tens of thousands of non-Cuban Hispanics who have moved there since 2000. Florida offers 27 electoral votes...

(Excerpt) Read more at presstelegram.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush43; charley; charlie; elections; fl; florida; hurricane; hurricanecharley; hurricanecharlie; jeb; jebbush; politics; weather
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This makes me seek and shows how thedems think. What kind of sick SOB wrings thier hands in joy at the thought of a natural disaster killing people and taking kives. If president gets any "good polling" from this, Rest assured it is because he consistantly does the right thing and really wants to help people, not because he is scheeming. How much you want bet the Kerry will rush down there to critisize, then akind of approve, then critsize again, then kind of approave again?

I think I typed the URL in correctly but if not just go to yahoo news or AP and check it out

1 posted on 08/14/2004 3:26:39 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

Sick.


2 posted on 08/14/2004 3:27:42 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

Oh for the love of...

Media bias? Whats that?


3 posted on 08/14/2004 3:28:39 AM PDT by Crazieman
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
Welcome to FR. You're right, as far as the Left (and friends in the media), the president can't do anything right.

Imagine what they'd be saying if he waited another 12 hours before declaring this relief availability?

4 posted on 08/14/2004 3:29:00 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

..another damned if he does, damned if he doesn't....I hate the media.


5 posted on 08/14/2004 3:30:20 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The most dangerous place in the world...between Moore and Ronstadt in the buffet line!)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
Functional Link Media bias? Nah...
6 posted on 08/14/2004 3:30:29 AM PDT by Crazieman
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
Amazing .....

7 posted on 08/14/2004 3:34:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
Turn about's fair play. I remember Clinton and his FEMA FOB James Lee Witt flying into and over disaster areas. I always thought the bastard was trying to capitalize on human tragedy. Remember how he "felt our pain"? Bush will never top Clinton in this regard, no matter what this APasshole tries to sell. Read for yourself:

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0197f.asp

"Clinton's Biggest Disaster Fraud
by James Bovard, January 1997

President Clinton proclaimed in campaign ads last fall that "my job as American president is to take care of the American people." Fewer events present more opportunities for the flaunting of compassion and buying votes than do natural disasters. As a result, under Clinton, the Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) has become far more high-profile and generous than ever before...."

8 posted on 08/14/2004 3:35:50 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Piling On..com)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

Bush should ask the house and senate to vote for or against several billion dollars for emergency help for Florida. Would the democrats vote against it. I think not. Bush is right. The AP can go FT.


9 posted on 08/14/2004 3:36:19 AM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

The Democrats and the mainstream media are frantic. John Kerry is imploding, and the Democrats and their lackeys will do or say anything to make GW Bush look bad! Just remember, Michael Moore, George Soros, Ben Affleck, Harvey Weinstein, Richard Clarke, Joe Wilson, etc. and millions of both hard and soft money have done nothing for Kerry but keep him in a tie, with a President that has really just begun his serious campaign. The Swift Boat Vets and their one hundred thousand dollar ad have begun the major destruction of John Kerry!


10 posted on 08/14/2004 3:37:39 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Jet Jaguar
Actually I lived through Hurricane Andrew. It's was a nightmare.

Were were trapped for 4 days (3 weeks before power was restored), unable get out of our neighborhood (every road was blocked) and we patrolled our area with shotguns as the cops or rescue, overwhelmed to begin with, couldn't get in or out.

It was damn near 2 1/2 days before we heard a damn thing from the state and about 4 days before the Feds got their sh*t together.

We finally started to see military choppers ferrying supplies into Homestead almost a WEEK after the storm.

Governor Childs and Bush Sr. took major hell for the lax response. They damned well deserved it!

Friggin African countries get faster responses in times of disaster. Bush had better treat this as a political problem!!

11 posted on 08/14/2004 3:37:55 AM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

I have two friends (married) that lost everything they had per Andrew. They moved back to N.M. to start over.


12 posted on 08/14/2004 3:40:32 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I think the figure is 100,000 left South Florida after Andrew.


13 posted on 08/14/2004 3:45:15 AM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

I pray this one is not that serious.


14 posted on 08/14/2004 3:46:17 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
Ok all my typos aside (i wish they would have spellcheck) for when you post articles) the Libs really are sick. Rush as I recall pointed out the Libs implied the same stuff after 911 "oh if only Clinton had this opportunity..."
15 posted on 08/14/2004 3:46:30 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

Rush was right, again. He predicted this very reaction from the media regarding hurricane Charley on Thursday's show.


16 posted on 08/14/2004 3:46:52 AM PDT by raisincane (Kerry even flip flopped his convention bounce.)
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To: zarf

On one of the hurricane threads yesterday, several posters described seeing many power company vehicles and trucks laden with building supplies already heading toward Florida. Hopefully lessons from Andrew will help those who suffered through Charley.

I can't fathom what you went through - patrolling with shotguns - serious business.


17 posted on 08/14/2004 3:47:19 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Jet Jaguar
I read an account that it it hit a trailer park and their are STACKS of bodies in body bags. The authorities have not released the body count because they are coming into fast to accurate. I think i got that off yahoo. They They had a picture of what looked like a small pile corpses in Large bags.
18 posted on 08/14/2004 3:49:32 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

Picture? :(


19 posted on 08/14/2004 3:50:56 AM PDT by Crazieman
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To: All

If Iraq settles down and things go well there... It is Bush politicizing it in his favor.

If Afghanistan holds its elections before our election, it is because Bush politicized it.

If Osama bid Laden is captured, it is because Bush politicized it.

Why won't the press just report the news and leave the commentary to the people who make money on selling their opinions?


20 posted on 08/14/2004 3:53:43 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: Quilla
Actually, the Andrew experience made me realize what a joke civil defense prep for a nuclear war is.

A nuclear weapon could not have caused more initial physical damage than what I saw, yet add to that fire and radiation....geesh...not a hope in hell.

It's every man for themself.

21 posted on 08/14/2004 3:55:12 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

Fox News is reporting that hundreds are missing. OMG - I had no idea it was this bad. Prayers continuing.


22 posted on 08/14/2004 3:58:59 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: mystery-ak

Me Too!


23 posted on 08/14/2004 4:06:59 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

They do have spell check. Before you post look to the left. A new feature.


24 posted on 08/14/2004 4:09:09 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I see it for posting responses but not for articles. is it in the same spot?
25 posted on 08/14/2004 4:10:44 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok; Jim Robinson

Sorry, not for posting articles. They should though.


Jim Robinson, can we get a spell checker for when we post articles?


26 posted on 08/14/2004 4:15:06 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jim Robinson

see post 1


27 posted on 08/14/2004 4:16:31 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
I am actually amazed that today's headlined didn't shout ...

BUSH ORDERS HURRICANE CHARLEY INTO SOUTH FLORIDA TO TAKE POLITICAL ADVANTAGE OF KERRY!



Oh ... well ... There's always tomorrow

28 posted on 08/14/2004 4:21:34 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Quilla; Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok; All

First of all, thanks for the prayers. I am in North Central Florida and we are doing OK here, but there are reports on Orlandosentinel.com that hundreds are missing, hopefully they will be accounted for. In the Orlando area, they are saying 170,000 people are without power but I haven't seen any reports of fatalities in that area.
The worst area was Punta Gorda and they still are getting reports in from that area. Orlando was under a curfew last night until 6 am today to prevent injuries from all the damage and to prevent looting of damaged homes and businesses.
Ir regards to Bush using this opportunity, I would like to ask Conservative Boy, are you saying he should not go and try to get started on help for these disaster areas?


29 posted on 08/14/2004 4:23:31 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (Sometimes- the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

One can always cut and paste their proposed contribution in a document that supports spell checking (Word, for instance), make those corrections on the document, then cut and paste back into the body of your message.

Bit of a pain, but if spelling REALLY bothers you...


30 posted on 08/14/2004 4:28:08 AM PDT by Skwid
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
I think the AP could garner untold respect if they would donate a few million dollars for aid to Florida. So far I have not seen any other country in the world say they are sending help. Bush is the only one.

How about it AP cough up or shut up. You like to criticize, now you can help.

31 posted on 08/14/2004 4:29:24 AM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: Skwid

I would like to see a spell check for posting. I have posted and have seen many breaking stories with gross spelling errors. It would help.


32 posted on 08/14/2004 4:31:13 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: mean lunch lady
Not at all. I'm saying that he will try and do somthimg good and the stupid. pathetic, sickening dems, and libs, and a a few turn coast that support them will use it to make Bush look bad. They are already positioning to do that.

I have a question for just out of curiosity are really a lunch lady? when I was in second grade my square dance instructor was also the schools lunch lady. Just wondering. She also made really the best rolls!
33 posted on 08/14/2004 4:31:31 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: mean lunch lady; All

Sorry, that post was not very clear- the reports from the orlandosentinel were of hundreds of people missing statewide, not in Orlando area alone. Mainly I think they mean the West coast. Also,if you were planning to go there, they said this morning on the news that the Orlando theme parks plan to be open today as usual. They say they had 500 engineers monitoring the situation all night for the Disney parks. No reports of any major damage to the parks, mainly just clean-up according to the spokesperson on WESH-TV this morning.


34 posted on 08/14/2004 4:32:21 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (Sometimes- the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

The President is not going there for photos ops. He would never do something THAT cheesy. But you can be he'll open the federal treasury to help out the folks in Florida. They'll repay him with gratitude in November.


35 posted on 08/14/2004 4:35:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

Actually, I was a lunch lady for seven years but I was not the person doing the food prep, I was a lunchroom monitor trying to make sure everyone left the lunchroom alive. You would not believe what some kids will do with food!! Our school had 970 kids and it was a real challenge to get them all in and out of the lunchroom on time. We had to get over 300 kids an hour in and out. The school was only built for 650 so we were way overcrowded.


36 posted on 08/14/2004 4:37:58 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (Sometimes- the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.)
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To: goldstategop

No doubt this will help the president not becaus he's trying to be sneaky or whatever but it will help because he's doing the right thing by helping people, and ya have to respect that. His motives are pure, its the liberal media that is already trying to smear things.


37 posted on 08/14/2004 4:39:26 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: mean lunch lady
Dude, I mean mam. I worked on the dish crew of a college cafertaria. I would belive it.
38 posted on 08/14/2004 4:41:10 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: goldstategop
We were lucky last night. We live on Merritt Island (Kennedy Space Center) east of Orlando 30 miles winds at 110MPH. We felt the winds force (I was pretty damn impressed by the fury) but we never lost power or DirecTV. Not much rain either.

I hope that all that weren't as lucky as we were are OK this morning. I hear that the mandatory evacuation of manufactured homes didn't save some people's lives.
39 posted on 08/14/2004 4:44:13 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: zarf

And that was the downfall of GWs Fathers election. If GHW Bush had got off his high horse and personally saw to it that things got done faster down there after Andrew, he might have won that election.


40 posted on 08/14/2004 4:46:56 AM PDT by crz
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

If Bush didn't respond to this with dispatch, he'd be accused of not caring. If he does respond, he's a political opportunist. We can only hope the voter who half pays attention finally figures out what lowlifes these liberals are.


41 posted on 08/14/2004 4:48:00 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: raisincane
It's all Bush's fault he should have gone out into the gulf and held up his hand and told Charley to stop.

These people make me want to puke.

42 posted on 08/14/2004 5:17:15 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: GailA

"peace be still" if Bushed walked on water they would bash him for for scaring the fish.


43 posted on 08/14/2004 5:35:32 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

I know, I'm surprised hanoi john hasn't made statements to the fact it's Dubya's fault.


44 posted on 08/14/2004 5:40:16 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: GailA
Oh I'm sure it's coming, some trash like "it was caused by global warming because Bush didn't sign the Kyoto treaty, or he should have hired a Medium to predict the weather...blah blah blah
45 posted on 08/14/2004 5:45:35 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: GailA
I am surprised we have not heard a Kerry spokesperson say: "The timing of this disaster is suspicious."
46 posted on 08/14/2004 5:48:39 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

What I find stunning in this article is the premisse that if President Bush sends aid to the hurricane victims, it's only for political reasons.

Of course, we all know the criticism we'd hear if for some reason, he didn't. Luckily for Floridians, President Bush is a compassionate man who won't care if people make those claims--he'd help them in any event.


47 posted on 08/14/2004 5:56:28 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: IamConservative

Be patient. Give them time.


48 posted on 08/14/2004 5:57:09 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: crz

I remember that when Andrew hit, Bush 41 wanted to send in federal aid immediately, but that Florida's democrat governor waited several days before making the request, and by then everyone, especially the media, was all over Bush 41 for not responding fast enough. Bush 41 should have sent in the aid immediately and made a big issue over the governor's unexcusable delays in making the requests.


49 posted on 08/14/2004 6:02:03 AM PDT by yawningotter
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To: MizSterious

I'd bet we will hear Kerry inferring the Bush brothers could have saved more lives with more effective evacuation, etc. I am certain a politician will try to benefit from this disaster and I am equally certain it will be Kerry.


50 posted on 08/14/2004 6:03:42 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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