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1 posted on 08/14/2004 12:48:16 PM PDT by DiamondDon1
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To: RonDog; kellynla; Reagan Man
Where do we find out information about the others that received purple hearts?

Diamond Don

2 posted on 08/14/2004 1:00:44 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Card carrying Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1

Kerry has recently applied for a 4th purple heart when

Te-Ray-Za smacked the sh*t out of him recently in Arizona ...

does anyone have an update on that ?


3 posted on 08/14/2004 1:01:39 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: DiamondDon1
"Left the combat zone?" I think you mean "desserted in the face of the enemy." Gigilo John, in effect, shot himself in the foot and bugged out, leaving his unit to face the enemy that he was too cowardly to confront.

I like the "what did he know and when did he know it" questions here. How did Traitor John KNOW that he needed 3 PHs and what was his source for this information? The suggestion that his boss told him that to get rid on him is intuitively satisfying but suggests that he 1st got the PHs and then learned about the loophole. My view is that he knew about the loophole, fabricated the PHs and bugged out.

Edwards is lying, of course, when he alleges Johnny "shed blood" in Nam. In fact, I can get more and worse wounds working in the garage over the weekend that Hanoi John got in his whole 4 weeks in Nam.

But then all Liar John need do is release his military records. If he does, we won't believe he is lying, we'll know.

KERRY: RESIGN AND APOLOGIZE!!!!

4 posted on 08/14/2004 1:07:52 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: DiamondDon1

I think a lot of vets are asking that question. We asked
one of our Representatives that question and he didn't have the faintest idea. He is a VietNam vet and ex-POW.


7 posted on 08/14/2004 1:12:10 PM PDT by tillacum (Poor kerry, he's told so many flip-flops, he thinks he's running for president, is he or isn't he?)
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To: DiamondDon1

Question #3:

How many veterans in US history recieved 3 Purple Hearts and shed less blood than John "WarSissy" Kerry?


8 posted on 08/14/2004 1:12:54 PM PDT by HardStarboard ( Wesley...gone. Hillary......not gone enough!)
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To: DiamondDon1
sKerry will die an unnatural death in November. He is hell-bent for self destruction. God is a GREAT Equalizer...we (America) can only be strong as long as our leaders are strong.

sKerry is not even in the running. He may be a media darling, but I trust John and Jane Q. American to separate the wheat from the chaff.

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can fool all of the people all of the time." Can't remember who said it, but it works for ME!

When the going gets tough, we have to pray.

9 posted on 08/14/2004 1:17:18 PM PDT by Monkey Face (The obvious is always new to somebody.)
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To: DiamondDon1

http://www.usni.org/proceedings/Articles03/PROlwf09.htm

This link will take you to the story of Elliot Williams of Darlington, SC. This man makes Kerry, even if he really earned his medals, look like a pathetic excuse for a hero.
Elliot Williams won 3 purple hearts, 3 bronze stars, 2 silver stars, the Navy cross, the congressional medal of honor. I lived within a few miles of this man until his death a few years ago and I never once heard of him touting his record to anyone. If a war record qualifies one for the presidency, Elliot Williams should have been the king of the entire world.


19 posted on 08/14/2004 2:10:55 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: DiamondDon1

We had a Hospitalman 3rd Class aboard our ship who received 3 Purple Heart citations for service in Vietnam.

As memory serves, he served as a medic/corpsman with Fleet Marine Force (FMF). Shot once, stepped on a punji stick, shrapnel wound for the third.

The Navy transferred him to our ship (a Destroyer Tender). As a Tender, we set up shop in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, Yokosuka, Japan, and Subic Bay, PI. The fleet ships came to us for repairs/tender availabilities and then went back to Yankee Station. (Oh, the sea-stories I could tell ya...) I made three of these WESTPAC tours, each a 6 month tour, and this HM3 came aboard prior to my last cruise.

--a Vietmam Era Vet and damned proud of it.


20 posted on 08/14/2004 2:13:28 PM PDT by Diver Dave (Stay Prayed Up)
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To: DiamondDon1
I just came across this which looks awfully suspicious:

Sailors stand together in An Thoi, Vietnam, on February 28, 1969, after a medal presentation for Silver Star action. From left: Del Sandusky, John Kerry, Gene Thorson, Thomas Belodeau. Kneeling from left, Mike Medeiros, Fred Short.

"In addition to Kerry's Silver Star PCF-94's performance on February 28 also earned Bronze Stars for Tommy Belodeau and Mike Medeiros and Navy Commendation Medals with Combat V Devices for Del Sandusky, Fred Short, and Gene Thorson." - Douglas Brinkley

27 posted on 08/14/2004 4:06:32 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: DiamondDon1
Note that the procedure used as a basis for Kerry exiting Vietnam does not mention "Purple Hearts". It only says "wounded three times." The Wounds, not the Purple Hearts were the operative item in invoking the language of the procedure.

From the Reassignment Request:

www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Thrice_Wounded_Reassignment.pdf

R 170730Z Mar 69
FM COMCOSRON ONE

A. BUPERSINST 1300.39

1. LTJG John Forbes Kerry USNR has been thrice wounded in action while on duty incountry Vietnam. Reassignment is requested IAW Ref A.

2. LTJG Kerry req duty as personal aide in Boston, New Yor or Wash, D.C. area. If aide, assignment not avail then any assignment considered qualified for.

3. LTJG Kerry presently on full duty status and available for reassignment.

Clarification on procedure:
www.campaigndesk.org/archives/000451.asp

The Campaign Desk
Critique and analysis of 2004 campaign coverage from Columbia Journalism Review

(snip)

The policy in question, the impenetrably-named BUPERS Instruction 1300.39, is no longer in place. During Vietnam, it mandated that any soldier "wounded three times, regardless of the nature of the wound or treatment required" should be "reassigned as having completed a full Vietnam tour with the hospital release date considered the tour completion date. They will not be ordered to Vietnam ..."

Furthermore, the official U.S. Navy document states that, "The commanding officer of an officer who is hospitalized and/or wounded under the above criteria will advise the Chief of Naval Personnel (Pers-B1) of the officer's location, duty status, and expected duration of hospitalization. Reassignment of the officer will be determined after consideration of his physical classification and on an individual basis."

An additional, virtually unreported section of the Navy code, notes that any soldier wishing to "waive reassignment under the purview of this Instruction must forward a written request to that effect to the Chief of Naval personnel (Pers-B) for final determination."

Kerry, of course, chose not to waive this order, and his commanding officers request for re-assignment can be viewed (PDF file) on the candidate's Web site.


31 posted on 08/14/2004 5:51:24 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: DiamondDon1
This Command History Summary of Coastal Division 11, recently added to Kerry's website, notes two other sailors who received 3 purple hearts in 1969:

BM3 Stevens
LTJG Galvin

But the Kerry folks did a crappy job scanning the document, and the bottom got cut off. So we don't know if there were more.

One other interesting thing:

Kerry's listed as having received a Silver Star, but not a Bronze Star in 1969, according to this document. And Kerry's the only one listed as receiving a Silver Star.
33 posted on 08/14/2004 6:34:46 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: DiamondDon1
As a military widow and mother, I can't do more than sit in the peanut gallery and urge you on, but my prayers are always with the men and women who serve our country, no what their station.

I think sKerry is a disgrace to everything America stands for, and I think he should co-habit with Hanoi Jane in whatever country she is loving now. (Hopefully, NVN) Neither of them deserve the freedoms they enjoy as US citizens. (The Bestids.)

34 posted on 08/16/2004 7:41:38 PM PDT by Monkey Face (The obvious is always new to somebody.)
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To: DiamondDon1
"Kerry and the Three Purple Hearts."

Sounds like a hip-hop boy band.

36 posted on 08/19/2004 8:49:45 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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