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Illegals from terrorist nations crossing border into Arizona.
KVOA News ^ | 08-13-2004 | Tom McNamara

Posted on 08/14/2004 7:22:55 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

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1 posted on 08/14/2004 7:23:04 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus

You would have known about this well over a month ago IF you have been keeping track of these horror stories out of Arizona, New Mexico, texas & California here on FreeRepublic!


2 posted on 08/14/2004 7:28:51 PM PDT by steplock
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Just popped up on a news search. Glad you like it.


3 posted on 08/14/2004 7:29:23 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Take for example, the capture of terrorist suspect Jose Padilla. The Justice Department says Padilla and an accomplice planned to enter the U.S. thru Mexico to blow up apartment buildings in major cities, like New York.

Huh? As opposed to just getting on a plane and flying to Chicago? WTF?

4 posted on 08/14/2004 7:31:21 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...

FYI - Hijinx, Gubamyster and myself got together and coordinated our efforts. Now we're working from a comprehensive list that includes everyone who wants to be alerted about border issues. As always, if you want to be added or removed just contact one of us.

Big Favor- If you run across any related article in the forum and note that it doesn't have "alien" as a key word it would be a great help to us if you added it. That's the primary index point that ties them all together and allows us to keep up. Thankyuhverymuch. - NRT


5 posted on 08/14/2004 7:32:04 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Remember how Hank Kimble talked on "Green Acres"? That's how Kerry thinks.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Another article on this subject:

Arab terrorists 'are getting into the US over Mexican border'

But what should also be mentioned:

Expedited deportations loom for more illegal border crossers

Undocumented immigrants from countries other than Mexico or Canada will be deported within a few days rather than held for a hearing in most cases, the Department of Homeland Security announced yesterday.

Department officials cited national security concerns and a desire to end what is sometimes referred to as a "catch-and-release" system, in which many of these immigrants disappear into society while waiting for a hearing.

Although expedited deportations have been commonplace for immigrants caught at official ports of entry since 1997, yesterday's announcement expands the policy to those caught entering illegally by land elsewhere, within 100 miles of either border and within 14 days of arrival.

"There is a concern that as we tighten the security of our ports of entry through biometric checks, there will be more effort made by terrorists through our vast land borders," Asa Hutchinson, the DHS undersecretary for border and transportation security, said yesterday in Washington.

"We recognize we have to secure those."

According to the Border Patrol, 57,633 non-Mexican undocumented immigrants have been apprehended since October. The vast majority – 94 percent – were from the Western Hemisphere, including other Latin American countries.

6 posted on 08/14/2004 7:32:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Bttt


7 posted on 08/14/2004 7:36:05 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
CORRECTION:
It's "Aliens", doggone it, the key word is ALIENS, plural.
8 posted on 08/14/2004 7:37:12 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus

http://www.javelinpress.com/bostons_gun_bible.html

Neat little read if ya get bored.........Stay safe and thanks for the pings !


9 posted on 08/14/2004 7:37:35 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: NewRomeTacitus

How do you do a keyword (alien) search?


10 posted on 08/14/2004 7:37:39 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

bump


11 posted on 08/14/2004 7:38:52 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Texas_Dawg; PhilDragoo; potlatch; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; Travis McGee; Tancredo Fan; ntnychik; ...


learning to blend in with Mexican illegals


Mexican illegal aliens are "hands-off" in NYC, LA, SF, DC, etc


time is their tool


12 posted on 08/14/2004 7:40:14 PM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryCambodia.html)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Add me to your list please.


13 posted on 08/14/2004 7:40:49 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Maybe someone can compile a book from these articles and then we can personally deliver them to our senators. That way they won't be able to tell us they weren't aware that this was happening on our border.


14 posted on 08/14/2004 7:42:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: NewRomeTacitus

It's a small world afterall,

It's a small world afterall,

It's a small world afterall,

It's a small, small world!

[/sarcasm]

15 posted on 08/14/2004 7:42:43 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
They pay to learn Spanish language skills, and by the time they reach the U.S., they're acting and talking like Mexicans to fool border agents.

This is highly unlikely to happen at least in my Sector.

16 posted on 08/14/2004 7:44:12 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: NewRomeTacitus
" Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo released a report showing that the problem is worse than anyone thought. "

Tanctredo is a lying POS. He is a sock puppet for the Bush-hating Buchanan.

17 posted on 08/14/2004 7:45:37 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

We are taking action:

Border Patrol to Get Increased Deportation Authority
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/august/0812_border_security.shtml

WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- Earlier this week, Department of Homeland Security Under Secretary for Border & Transportation Security Asa Hutchinson announced plans to increase the authority of border patrol agents to quickly deport persons crossing U.S. borders illegally. The plan is also aimed at "facilitating travel for legitimate Mexican visitors."

The new plan involves expanding the use of "expedited removal from the ports-of-entry to locations along the U.S. border," and "increasing the amount of time a border crossing card will allow a card-holder to remain in the U.S."

"We want to send a clear message that those individuals who follow legal immigration procedures will benefit while those who choose to break our nation’s immigration laws will be promptly removed from the U.S.," said Under Secretary Hutchinson.

"Expedited removal" has been used at official ports of entry in the U.S., such as airports and seaports, since 1997. However, it has not been applied on the land borders between the ports of entry.

According to the DHS, the expansion of expedited removal processing will allow the department to "speed the removal of illegal aliens who are caught while attempting to enter the United States by fraudulent means or while attempting to elude Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Border Patrol agents." DHS says the new procedure will only apply to those caught within 100 miles of the Mexican or Canadian borders, and only if they are apprehended within their first 14 days in the U.S.


18 posted on 08/14/2004 7:46:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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Smuggler attempts to run over Border Patrol

On August 8, 2004, a Border Patrol Agent assigned to the Douglas Station fired two shots from his service issued rifle at the driver of a vehicle that illegally crossed the International Boundary and attempted to run him over.

Yesterday, at approximately 11:20 p.m., two vehicles crossed the boundary illegally in an attempt to smuggle narcotics into the United States. Intelligence gleaned by agents suggested that one vehicle was acting as a decoy, while the other was laden with the narcotics.

As the Excursion crossed the International Boundary, it became stuck in a ditch just north of the border. About 10 other smugglers that had been hiding in the brush nearby jumped out and were able to push the Excursion up onto the road. The driver of the Excursion then drove eastbound and then north on Plantation Road. A Border Patrol agent successfully deployed a controlled tire deflation device in front of the Excursion, deflating two of its tires. The driver then turned the vehicle around, and upon spotting the agent, drove off road into the brush and tried to run him over. The agent was unable to run out of harms way in the think brush and fired two rounds at the driver to stop him. The driver then veered off and absconded back into Mexico.

Two of the Dodge pick-up's tires were also successfully deflated with a controlled tire deflation device and became disabled on border road west of King's Highway. As agents approached the vehicle, the two occupants fled back into Mexico, leaving the truck behind. Agents determined that the pick-up was reported stolen out of Phoenix, Arizona. No contraband was discovered in the truck.

Tucson Sector Border Patrol Agents have been assaulted nearly 100 times this fiscal year to date, compared to 115 in all of fiscal year 2003. Although the number of assaults is similar to last year, the violent nature of the crimes is not. Frustrated smugglers have recently rammed marked Border Patrol vehicles, tried to run over agents, and have been regularly engaging agents in armed conflict.

The Border Patrol is a division of the U.S. Bureau of Customs and Border Protection, a new agency within the Department of Homeland Security, responsible for managing and securing our nation's borders.

http://www.douglasdispatch.com/articles/2004/08/13/news/news2.txt


19 posted on 08/14/2004 7:48:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: FairOpinion

And of course, the UN complains:

Border deportations concern UN
http://www.iht.com/articles/533847.html

WASHINGTON A confidential report conducted by the United Nations in cooperation with the Department of Homeland Security has found that airport inspectors with the power to summarily deport undocumented immigrants have handcuffed travelers fleeing persecution, discouraged some from seeking political asylum and often lacked an understanding of asylum law.

Homeland Security officials say they have responded to the problems identified in the report, which was completed late last year and obtained this week by The New York Times. But the study highlights the challenges facing the department as it grants border patrol agents sweeping powers to deport illegal immigrants from the borders with Mexico and Canada without providing them with the opportunity to make their cases before immigration judges.


20 posted on 08/14/2004 7:49:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: devolve
" . . . learning to blend in with Mexican illegals"

Time to send in the M.I.B.

21 posted on 08/14/2004 7:49:38 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: devolve

According to a thread the other night they are allowed to arrest an illegal and send them right back within one hundred miles of the border.

I live beyond that 100 miles!


22 posted on 08/14/2004 7:51:45 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: steplock
I was aware about it. This is the first article where someone came right out and stated that the Middle Easterners were paying to be tutored in Mexican culture and their form of Spanish. Prior to this we were just speculating it.
23 posted on 08/14/2004 7:52:11 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: devolve
learning to blend in with Mexican illegals
Mexican illegal aliens are "hands-off" in NYC, LA, SF, DC, etc
time is their tool

Padilla is an American citizen. He was arrested in the Chicago airport. That line in the article makes no sense.

24 posted on 08/14/2004 7:56:03 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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Tanctredo is a lying POS. He is a sock puppet for the Bush-hating Buchanan.

Bravo

Thank you.

25 posted on 08/14/2004 7:58:10 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
When (boy, I wish I could write IF) al-Quada strikes again, I'll bet it turns out the scumbags came in through the southern border.

Anybody got any idea exactly what it would take to CLOSE the border?

26 posted on 08/14/2004 8:02:07 PM PDT by upchuck (Well, if I called the wrong number, why did you answer the phone?)
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I can personally vouch for Ben Anderson's integrity.


27 posted on 08/14/2004 8:03:41 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I think this is Ben Anderson's web site, but I don't find any mention of Special Interest Aliens on it.
28 posted on 08/14/2004 8:04:03 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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LOL


29 posted on 08/14/2004 8:04:35 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (The National Council of La Raza should be labeled a Terrorist Organization and treated accordingly)
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Anybody got any idea exactly what it would take to CLOSE the border?

Put the apprehended illegals to work, building a wall.

30 posted on 08/14/2004 8:04:48 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: upchuck
I'll bet it turns out the scumbags came in through the southern border.

Why not the larger, more open, northern border where Arab Muslim communities they could blend into already exist?

Gee... I wonder if you have ulterior motives here...

Naaaaaahhhh...

31 posted on 08/14/2004 8:05:51 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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To: dennisw
How do you do a keyword (aliens) search?

Go to Free Republic's main page (click "Free Republic" in the top left corner if you open on the Latest Articles page) and type the keyword into the "Search" box located under that heading stuff. There's a dropdown list on the right of the Search box so you want to make sure you've chosen "By Keyword" for the category of search.

The other choices are useful, too. If you know just a few words of the title of a specific article searching for that with the "By Title" category will dig it up.

32 posted on 08/14/2004 8:08:28 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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I agree about Padilla

He is an American turncoat

But I see Islamics working in high hispanic population areas and picking up Spanish fast but ignoring other lanquages and cultures

Harder to slip in from Canada as a Frenchie

Many have been in the USA for many years


Some "innocents" here for many years have been found way past Visa with "Commander X" in an Iraqi notebook





33 posted on 08/14/2004 8:09:20 PM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryCambodia.html)
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To: bayourod

" Tanctredo is a lying POS."

On FR you are the POS!!!!!!


34 posted on 08/14/2004 8:09:28 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: devolve

There were a couple of articles a couple of years ago about a growing Islamic culture in southern Mexico and in some South American countries.

Such area could be rich for recruiting Islamofanatics.


36 posted on 08/14/2004 8:16:10 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: dalereed
See this.
37 posted on 08/14/2004 8:17:19 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Ben is definitely a good one. I can also vouch for the integrity of Dave Stoddard and Larry Vance.


38 posted on 08/14/2004 8:18:14 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Heh heh heh...


39 posted on 08/14/2004 8:22:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (liberalism destroys brain cells, what little there were of them)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Thank you for the ping.


40 posted on 08/14/2004 8:23:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (liberalism destroys brain cells, what little there were of them)
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To: devolve

Thank you for the ping.


41 posted on 08/14/2004 8:23:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (liberalism destroys brain cells, what little there were of them)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
That is one darn wayward way to do a search. You are the first to tell me this.

MEANWHILE:
I found out you can do a keyword search for "aliens" by clicking the keyword "aliens" in an immigration thread. This will yield immigartion threads that have "aliens" in the keywords.
42 posted on 08/14/2004 8:25:44 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

I was particularly referencing the "muslim prayer cloth" But I couldn't find it again on here!??

Did the Arizona illegal alien civilian defense web site information get purged from here? I doubt it, but I can't find any reference and I can't remember their name! They carry a sattelite uplink for live web cam feed from the field so they can't be persecuted untruthfully.


43 posted on 08/14/2004 8:37:43 PM PDT by steplock
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To: bayourod

Either you do not live anywhere near the southwest - you are blind - or you are ....


44 posted on 08/14/2004 8:39:15 PM PDT by steplock
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To: potlatch
"According to a thread the other night they are allowed to arrest an illegal and send them right back within one hundred miles of the border."

Now that is really smart on the part of government. What the hell is the difference between an illegal(possible terrorist) within 100 miles or further inland?

We have the wrong people in positions of authoriy in this country.

45 posted on 08/14/2004 8:42:04 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Good post...please add me to your ping list. Thanks.


46 posted on 08/14/2004 8:43:05 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: NewRomeTacitus

BUMP


47 posted on 08/14/2004 8:43:35 PM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: TheLion

You're right of course. I've been off a couple of nights but if I find the thread I'll ping you to it. There might be an explanation somewhere in it.


48 posted on 08/14/2004 8:48:41 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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I think I read that one, but it is worth another look. I think they said they will release Mexicans.

Real smart again if the terrorists look and talk and act like Mexicans!


49 posted on 08/14/2004 8:54:05 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: TheLion

Yes, I just pinged you to it. It is about the illegals and sending them right back to Mexico. Hope they can tell one from a 'mideasterner'!!


50 posted on 08/14/2004 8:56:04 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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