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Michael Moore Refuses to Apologize to Illinois Paper
Editor and Publisher ^ | August 12, 2004 | E & P Staff

Posted on 08/14/2004 9:41:43 PM PDT by LifeTrek

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To: GeronL

Well, if Moore manipulated that papers 'right to reply' column, which would be exempt from editorial policy....and juxtaposed it to indicate it WAS paper policy, they should sue his ass off.

They would win, IMO.


21 posted on 08/14/2004 10:18:11 PM PDT by Happygal ('No one works harder for his money than the man who marries it.')
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To: LifeTrek
Why would Moore be concerned with an AMERICAN paper? He is the epitome of the self hating American. You can tell that he feels that his American citizenship is an unfortunate byproduct of his birth.

You can be sure that no banner or images from Al Jazeera would ever be used by Moore in such a manner. After all, they are already doing his handiwork, and they, his.

22 posted on 08/14/2004 10:21:03 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (With Kerry, "nuance" and "unprincipled" are one and the same.)
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To: All

Michael Moron should be thrown into a chipper, and the results fed to federal penitentiary denizen, Hanoi John F'n Kerry.


23 posted on 08/14/2004 11:36:40 PM PDT by MarineBrat
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To: Happygal

The "story" was actually a letter to the editor who was still whining and claiming that Gore won Florida. Moore made it appear that the newspaper ran a front page story that Gore won Florida. It was a deliberate deception. One of many, many deceptions.


24 posted on 08/15/2004 12:16:13 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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To: LifeTrek

This is simply a cooperative effort to get this tripe more publicity than it deserves; from MOO, and their paper.


25 posted on 08/15/2004 12:17:43 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: feedback doctor

156 pounds?? Is that his head?


26 posted on 08/15/2004 12:22:32 AM PDT by CaraM
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
But the paper wrote the stupid left wing article in the first place. Screw them.

Yes, but now that they are angry at Moore, maybe they would be willing to expose his lies in their paper. We could send them the short version of 59 deceits of Fahrenheit (4 pages). They could do a lot to discredit MM.

27 posted on 08/15/2004 12:27:20 AM PDT by CaraM
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To: LifeTrek
From the July 23, 2004 edition of the Pantagraph column that first disclosed the deception a week earlier, written by Bill Flick:

Friday, July 23, 2004

Moore's flick: bowling
for movie edits

In my e-mail today is a note that joyfully begins, "YOU ARE A HORSE'S (REAR FLANK)!!!"

Another fan announces I want to "only dirtbag" and "find trivial error" with Michael Moore for the "public service ... he has otherwise done."

Yet another says I "obviously ... don't fully research (my) newspaper columns" and that the writer plans to type out a letter to the editor to really let me have it.

What set off this latest love-fest was a small blurb that appeared in this space a week ago on a curious scene in Michael Moore's otherwise entertaining movie, "Fahrenheit 9/11."

In a flash-second early on, the movie shows various newspaper headlines on coverage of the presidential election of 2000, and one of them is from the alleged Dec. 19, 2001 edition of the Bloomington, IL Pantagraph.

Golly, we thought. What an honor.

Just for fun, we went back to the Dec. 19, 2001 editions, to ogle the headline and paper shown in the movie.

But somehow there was no such news story in that day's paper.

We found that curious.

How could a news headline that never appeared in the Dec. 19 paper appear in a copy of the Dec. 19 paper shown in the movie?

Now we learn how.

The Pantagraph headline shown in the movie -- "LATEST FLORIDA RECOUNT SHOWS GORE WON ELECTION" -- actually appeared in our Dec. 5 edition.

Illogically, if not inexplicably, a page apparently was "pasted together" to look like an actual Pantagraph page for the movie shot.

And here also is why we could never find the news story.

It never was one.

Instead it was the headline atop a letter to the editor, significantly blown up to make it look like a news story.

Since the original column blurb appeared on this page, it found its way on the Internet.

It was posted on something called moorewatch.com. It appeared on Yahoo. It became a link on the national library site, LISNews.com. It became part of a reaction link of the Moore movie on CBS.com.

Someone then took the time to slow down the film, frame-by-frame, and take an actual picture of the alleged Pantagraph page. (It is reprinted here, as it appears at moorewatch.com. The red line has been added by someone at the Internet site to show the page's date is wrong in the movie.)

With all that, suddenly it became a flash point in something on the Internet known as weblogs -- they are chat rooms of sorts -- and, to make a short story long, that is how my e-mail in-box is overflowing with folk apparently short with me because they think I have bashed Moore for factual inaccuracy, if not manipulation.

Which, uh, I have.

Of special humor -- to local observers, at least -- is the world's reaction to a "Pantagraph."

In the weblogs, people wonder why "a magazine" would make the movie.

They wonder what was our point and, in one writer's case, "what was (my) underlying goal." (To get home by about 6 is always my goal, by the way.)

Our own personal favorite is a writer who, tongue-in-cheek, declares at moorewatch.com: "Duh! Come on! You all know that the Bush and bin Laden families OWN the Bloomington Pantagraph! They simply had all of their distribution recalled and reprinted with Dec. 5 instead of 19 to totally discredit Moore!"

Golly. How conniving.

Despite our requests, we should add that Michael Moore remains silent to our repeated pleas for a comment.

We promise not to even edit them.

Moore or less, of course.


Copyright © 2004, Pantagraph Publishing Co. All rights reserved.



28 posted on 08/15/2004 12:52:21 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (When it comes to newborns getting stabbed in the head, Kerry cares...about drowning hamsters.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
But the paper wrote the stupid left wing article in the first place. Screw them.

Not true. It wasn't a news article, it was a letter to the editor. Look at my post above.

29 posted on 08/15/2004 12:54:30 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (When it comes to newborns getting stabbed in the head, Kerry cares...about drowning hamsters.)
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To: LifeTrek
Michael Moore Refuses to Apologize to Illinois Paper

Standard Operating Procedure for Rich Liberals:
"Peons are for peeing on!"
30 posted on 08/15/2004 12:54:58 AM PDT by VOA
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To: LifeTrek

Letters to the editor routinely have a sentence taken out of them and blown up over the article. I had one printed a few months ago, over it, they wrote, "Oh, I get it" which was a paraphrase ("I get it now") of the next to last sentence.

I wondered at the time at the creative editing, how they decide which sentence to use. It made my letter seem more pointed, somehow - which was ok with me.

With all the problems JimRob has had, just reprinting an article as is, it seems to me that reprinting and changing a page to make it say something it really didn't - I can't imagine they couldn't recover somehow.


31 posted on 08/15/2004 4:20:17 AM PDT by I still care (Have you heard about the Democrat cocktail? It's ketchup with a chaser.)
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To: Happygal
But...the paper, if they feel affronted, shouldn't have ran the story in the first place

It wasn't a story, IIRC. It was a letter to the editor.

32 posted on 08/15/2004 4:24:07 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: sinanju
I recall some speculation when this apology was first requested that they did it this way so they could rightfully claim they offered Moore a gentlemanly way out.

As he used the paper's reputation to promote his case, 1% of the gross Box office receipts and DVD sales, in perpetuity, sounds about right.

33 posted on 08/15/2004 6:28:04 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Happygal
But...the paper, if they feel affronted, shouldn't have ran the story in the first place.

It wasn't a story, it was a letter to the editor. "Freedom of expression, all shades of opinion, views expressed are not necessiarlly those of the staff or proprietors yada yada".

And it wasn't a headline, it was a heading to the letter, normal newspaper practice.

Now go away

34 posted on 08/15/2004 6:33:32 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Oztrich Boy

Go away? I beg your pardon.

BTW, re-read the thread, your about two days too late with your 'news'. :-)


35 posted on 08/16/2004 1:10:43 AM PDT by Happygal ('No one works harder for his money than the man who marries it.')
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