Posted on 08/15/2004 8:34:30 AM PDT by CT
Gee, does that make any FReepers who donated to the Swifties Republican Money men??????????
I know lots of freepers who have donated money to the Swifties. Probably at least a couple dozen.
GailA,
Oh, joy! The MSM has managed to make me something I always wanted to be: A "Money Man." (And that while having to borrow to send my kids to college, while my state's Governor is paying $110,000 to keep his concubine on the payroll.") Pardon the humor, but that's rich. -OhMIke
During WW11 my Father served on a destroyer. One of the missions of his destroyer was to rescue downed fliers. Because there were too many injures and it took too much time to drop a boat over the side, swimmers were used. My Father was a good swimmer so they tied a rope around his waist and he jumped from the waist of the ship and rescued fliers.
Years later before his death, I tried to get him a medal. In the Navy there is a rescue medal. I got a copy of the ship's log describing my Father rescue of a downed flier. (It was available at a ship's reunion)and submitted it to a Naval reserve captain that had the power to recommend medals.
He declined to recommend a medal because, as he stated, my Father was just performing a standard operating procedure (SOP).
He also receive paint fragments in his leg from the concussion of a near miss. I asked him about a possible Purple Heart. He was incredulous. For that little scratch?he said and laughed.
Great post. The comparison with the media's approach to GW's military records is stunningly eye-opening. Thanks.
I am! I am! I sent a donation in and now proudly wear the mantle of "mysterious Republican money man". What a badge of honor it is.
LOL!!
jim geraghty reporting
Unfit for Command rides atop the Amazon sales list. [Order it through National Review Book Service.] ¾ THROUGH 'UNFIT FOR COMMAND' [08/15 11:28 AM]
So, while flying down to Hilton Head, I read through the first three quarters of Unfit For Command. Impressions so far:
Book reviews wont do justice to the charges in this book. Excerpts, the free chapter distributed online by Regnery, blog discussions none of them can really give a full and comprehensive picture of the case that John ONeill and Jerome Corsi lay out in these 185 pages. If you really want to understand the depth and breadth of their argument, youll have to pick it up yourself.
Weve heard and read a lot about Kerrys third purple heart. According to the testimony collected in this book, all of Kerrys medals were given under questionable circumstances, with citations describing much more intense and dramatic battle scenes than the memories of the men there. On his first Purple Heart, theres scant evidence from testimony that Kerrys wound was a result of enemy fire. (In fact, the authors note that even in the account in the Boston Globe biography, its not all that clear that there was enemy fire, and they note that Kerry refused to be interviewed about that incident.)
Kerrys Silver Star citation is for personally leading a landing party ashore in pursuit of the enemy attacking a numerically superior force in the face of intense fire. Men who were with him say his combat consisted of killing one wounded teenage Viet Cong, fleeing with a rocket launcher that may or may not have been loaded. Many men had fought around him and before he had grounded his boat in the shoreline and charged with his rifle, but only Kerry got the Silver Star.
Chapter Four, War Crimes, portrays Kerry as being reckless and trigger-happy. (Odd little note: Did you know Kerrys call sign was Boston Strangler?)
Again, many of these mens testimony directly contradicts Kerrys records, commendations, and diary entries. To those who would wonder why they didnt object to inaccurate record keeping and allegedly undeserved medals the time, the authors and the sailors quoted describe the reaction to Kerrys third purple heart as largely, Great, now weve got that guy out of our hair.
Then there are the sections about Kerrys anti-war testimony, and his allegations of war crimes, and how the North Vietnamese used his testimony in attempts to break the spirit of POWs, and tried to get the prisoners to admit to war crimes. In light of this, Kerry is lucky that these men, whose ordeal in the hands of the enemy was exacerbated by Kerrys overheated antiwar rhetoric and secondhand allegations, are merely calling him unfit to be commander in chief, instead of tracking him down and beating the heck out of him.
For a certain segment of the population, ONeill, Corsi, and the 250some other Swift Boat Vets will always be dismissed as nuts, Karl Roves hypnotized zombies, cynical liars trying to take down a man who has surpassed them in life, etc. For another segment, every word they say is Gods honest truth.
Then are those of us in the middle, who wonder how Kerry could have been such a lousy sailor, such a lousy leader, such a self-aggrandizing, glory-hogging, lying jerk and yet somehow establish an entire political career based on a reputation as a war hero. There are those of us who wonder if the Swift Boat Vets memories are reliable, if some of this is present perceptions altering recollections of the past. Who wonder how, if all of this is true, the dozen or so band of brothers could publicly praise a man who was nothing like the war hero he has repeatedly portrayed himself as.
But ONeill and Corsi have laid out their detailed case in the form of this book. And the Kerry Teams response has been that Corsi is a bigot, based on what he wrote on FreeRepublic.com. Having had a few phone conversations with Corsi earlier this year, I buy into the idea that hes a strongly opinionated, sharp-tongued, hyperbole-inclined conservative, whose skin crawls when he hears John Kerry speak. But opinionated is not the same as dishonest. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
If the Kerry camp were smart, they would fill out Standard Form 180 and release all of Kerrys military records, then go through this book, and address each allegation, refute each charge, offer his side to every story. If ONeill and Corsi are the liars that the DNC and the Kerry backers charge, then it shouldnt be that hard to prove it.
The Swift Boat Vets contend that fewer than 10 percent of the Vietnam Vets they contacted refused to sign on to their cause. This means either they were very careful and specific in their invitations, or the vast majority of men who came in contact with Kerry during his Vietnam days shared their low opinion of him.
Between the Brinkley book and the ONeill book, the American public has been given two completely contradictory portraits of Kerrys four months in Vietnam. The voters deserve to know which one is right.
sure sounds like 'letter to the editor' material. I hope you wrote one to your local newspaper
On Fox news Sunday Bret came out like a junk yard dog against the book's detractors. Bret has read the book and said it is meticulously detailed in footnotes & references in it's accusations and needs serious study by the media, which they refuse to do.
This ain't going away folks, Fox News smells blood in the water and the sharks are circling.
Donate, donate, donate, donate until it hurts, we have to do what the old media will not. Why? Because we know the truth and we are here at this point in time & place, we must carry the burden. Get the word out to one & all.
https://coral.he.net/~swiftvet/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
c/o Weymouth Symmes, Treasurer
PO Box 26184
Alexandria, VA 22313
Has the site for the SBVfT been hacked?
Complaints are comming in to me that people cannot get to it.
Here is a new one that seems to work OK.
https://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets
Been playing reporterette too...lift article from FR and make sure they get in the hands of others, especially my friends who own guns, who have had Loved Ones murdered and are former military.
I had my letter to the editor printed on 8/10 about hanoi john being anti-death penalty. Memphis has about 158 homicides a year.
Wheres the justice? Kerry gets 3 Purple Hearts and a Silver Star for performing Standard Acting Procedure (SAP).
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