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Sen. Intel Chief Calls on Kerry to Release Records
Newsmax.com ^ | Aug. 15, 2004 | Newsmax

Posted on 08/15/2004 11:39:56 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16

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To: nicmarlo; MeekOneGOP

Kerry's toast.


51 posted on 08/15/2004 12:41:55 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Blessed

You've confused me. Can you explain?


52 posted on 08/15/2004 12:48:28 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: dennisw
John Kerry was IS one of the laziest, most self indulgent Senators. He had HAS no record of leadership there yet he wants to lead the United States.

He's still a Senator. Just because he rarely goes to Capitol Hill doesn't mean he isn't still on the payroll.
And he'll still be one after he loses in Nov.

Whatever possesses Mass. residents to elect Teddy and Kerry year after year?? Can the rest of us force the state to secede?

53 posted on 08/15/2004 12:48:44 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: dennisw

Since when is a Bhuddist gesture and Islamic one? THey are two separate religions.


54 posted on 08/15/2004 12:50:39 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Go look at the commercial the article is wrong. The first attack on the World trade center was in 1992.That is whe Kerry did not show up for the intelligence committee not after 9/11.


55 posted on 08/15/2004 12:51:04 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: NavySEAL F-16
And while your at it perhaps some will snail mail one of these to Kerry, or the Dimocrat Party.

====================================================================

"This is a copy of the letter I (we) sent the DNC.

"Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

To whom it may concern:

Enclosed please find one, three page document titled SF 180, request pertaining to military records.

Would you be so kind as to have your party's candidate for president fill out the form, according to the directions supplied, and mail the completed document to the address indicated.

Once the documents he (your candidate) requested are delivered to you, will you then release them, in their entirety, to the news media that are charged with covering your campaign?

Thank you for your prompt attention to this most important matter.

Xxxxxxx & Xxxxx Xxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Terrace
Inverness, FL 34450

P/S … Please make sure your candidate signs the form."

=======================================================================

You can copy the SF-180 form here http://www.archives.gov/research_room/obtain_copies/standard_form_180.pdf

56 posted on 08/15/2004 12:52:36 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Blessed

No, the first attack on the WTC was in 1993 under Clinton.


57 posted on 08/15/2004 12:55:18 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Sorry.But that doesnt change the point.


58 posted on 08/15/2004 12:57:16 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: Blessed

I still don't know what your point is.


59 posted on 08/15/2004 12:59:20 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Intolerant in NJ; AFPhys; SandRat; snooker; Bonaparte; austingirl; willNJ

Please see post #56


60 posted on 08/15/2004 1:01:45 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: G.Mason

bump for a plan!


61 posted on 08/15/2004 1:03:55 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: NavySEAL F-16

>A Bush Cheney campaign commercial set to debut on Monday accuses Kerry of being absent for 76 percent of the Intelligence Committee's hearings, noting that he was completely AWOL for the entire year after the 9/11 attacks. <

This is NOT WHAT THE COMMERCIAL SAYS.


62 posted on 08/15/2004 1:05:24 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Why are Senate attendance records not public?


63 posted on 08/15/2004 1:12:13 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: G.Mason
No. The records should not be mailed to the campaign. This record is evidence and you just don't put evidence in the hands of the accused.

Kerry must authorize that the record be released directly to the NYT (liberal) and the Washington Post (conservative). Then they can make them public. Kerry can do that. He can direct his record to any party he wants.

64 posted on 08/15/2004 1:12:47 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Blessed

If the commercial is set to debut on Monday, where can I see it?

Have they released it on the GOP site?


65 posted on 08/15/2004 1:15:52 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: wildbill

Kerry's is only a Buddhist gesture. The text was a quote from someone else's post


66 posted on 08/15/2004 1:20:25 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

>Have they released it on the GOP site?<

Yes on the Bush site.


67 posted on 08/15/2004 1:27:56 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: Blessed

I listened and watched the commercial several times. Kerry has missed 76% of meetings for his entire tenure on Intelligence Committee. There is distinct pause and then "year after the first WTC attack, he missed all meetings and that same year proposed slashing intelligence budget."

http://www.georgewbush.com/Default.aspx


68 posted on 08/15/2004 1:28:27 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: rushmom
The liberal media, especially the TV networks, want John Kerry elected so badly that they are willing to completely drop even their usual pretense of objectivity.

They screamed to the heavens, day after day, for Bush to release his full service record. But now that serious and credible accusations have been lodged against their candidate, we hear not a peep out of them about Kerry releasing his service records to the media.

You are sooooo right. The double standard, the highly partisan reporting of the liberal mass media are truly breathtaking in this election season.

69 posted on 08/15/2004 1:31:09 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Blessed

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1192086/posts

Here's the transcript posted.


70 posted on 08/15/2004 1:31:15 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

The point is NEWSMAX TIED IT TO 9/11 NOT THE FIRST ATTACK.THE AD DOES NOT MENTION 9/11. it mentions the first attack.


71 posted on 08/15/2004 1:34:36 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: NavySEAL F-16

KAREN HUGHES, KAREN HUGHES , KAREN HUGHES
Are you reading this? I'm sure that George and Dick can slide this topic into a slick sound bite.

Why won't Kerry release the records....unless the contain NEGATIVE DATA..........


72 posted on 08/15/2004 1:35:50 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Blessed

Write to Newsmax. They made the mistake. NOT THE AD.


73 posted on 08/15/2004 1:38:37 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

I have and I agree. I am saying we need to understand it before we misquote it and get accused of lying.


74 posted on 08/15/2004 1:40:58 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: nicmarlo; NavySEAL F-16
John Kerry is the AWOL Senator/candidate for President!


My thanks to Traumer, Arrowhead1952 and Conspiracy Guy for the concept of the above pic


75 posted on 08/15/2004 1:41:18 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: sweetliberty; nicmarlo
He was too busy being a hero.



76 posted on 08/15/2004 1:42:51 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

I don't think Newsmax should be off the hook for misstating what was in the ad.

Somehow, someway the libs will blame the Republicans.

To err is human -- something Republicans cannot afford to be.


77 posted on 08/15/2004 1:43:43 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: G.Mason

HEY! HEY!
HO! HO!
Kerry sign the
FORM ONE EIGHT OH!


78 posted on 08/15/2004 1:45:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
These guys put the best pressure on Kerry. They need support to buy air time!

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

79 posted on 08/15/2004 1:46:15 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

RELEASE ALL your records, Sen. Kerry!


80 posted on 08/15/2004 1:55:20 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

IMO the reason one of the reasons Bush sort of distances himself from the Swiftvets is because he's got PLENTY of other material to work with in the next couple of months. This is one example.


81 posted on 08/15/2004 1:55:59 PM PDT by what's up
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To: BunnySlippers

Has Kerry ever been a Committee CHAIRMAN??


82 posted on 08/15/2004 1:56:23 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

The public hearings, yes... but the private ones are, well, private.


83 posted on 08/15/2004 1:57:59 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
While their at it let's see how many Off Shore companies Tereza Helmsley owns?? Release the Tax Returns!

Pray for W and Our Troops

84 posted on 08/15/2004 1:59:00 PM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

honest, but sleight of hand ... so few know about the 1993 WTC attack.

OTOH, it makes the point: We were under attack in the 1990s and looked away. John Kerry looked away and ignored the threat.

He has no place arguing with Bush's leadership when his own was so lacking.

that is the underlying message and truth of the ad.

Still, I expect some rebutters/commentators might tut tut over the use of 'first WTC attack' without giving the year of that attack (*1993*).


85 posted on 08/15/2004 2:01:16 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: Bonaparte
Re:post #64

Have you requested that they do so?

86 posted on 08/15/2004 2:20:22 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: SandRat
"HEY! HEY!
HO! HO!
Kerry sign the
FORM ONE EIGHT OH!
"

Well done, I think. ;)

87 posted on 08/15/2004 2:23:19 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: sweetliberty; MeekOneGOP

Kerry's toast.


88 posted on 08/15/2004 2:25:14 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: G.Mason

Think it has potential for a chant at every Kerry campaign stop?


89 posted on 08/15/2004 2:27:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: G.Mason
"Have you requested that they do so?"

Yes.

90 posted on 08/15/2004 2:54:59 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: MeekOneGOP

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

That is sick, wrong, and hilarious. I will be finding out more about whoever made that one.


91 posted on 08/15/2004 3:29:52 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: nicmarlo
:^)

92 posted on 08/15/2004 3:30:55 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: LibertarianInExile
LOL! If I could remember who I stole borrowed that from, I would tell you myself. :^D

93 posted on 08/15/2004 4:21:26 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Where's John? Where's John? (Kerry/Edwards)


94 posted on 08/15/2004 5:25:23 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls - Proof that when the Main Stream Media wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: Diogenesis

Medical records???
IMHO, he has a serious (series?) problem here. I think he has an "Eagleton" problem here. The Pittsburg Post-Gazette ran an article dated Jun 5, 2002 interview with THK and JFK, which reported that THK infered that JFK had recieved therapy for nightmares he was having, in the 1990's, related to Viet-Nam. JFK tried to deflect the question.
Waiting for the other shoe.


95 posted on 08/15/2004 5:53:59 PM PDT by ThomasPaine2000 (Peace without freedom is tyranny.)
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To: Chieftain

Someone needs to tell the swiftvets that another site named swiftvet.com (not plural vets) is up.


96 posted on 08/15/2004 7:10:48 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill
wildbill, I pasted that in browser and got nothing. I also tried www.swiftvet.com and got the same result.

Where did you get that info from?

97 posted on 08/15/2004 7:28:54 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: ThomasPaine2000

"Medical records???
IMHO, he has a serious (series?) problem here. I think he has an "Eagleton" problem here. "

I agree 100%.

In tour of Duty-Brinkley wrote that Kerry started SLEEPWALKING and having nightmares.

In the Rolling Stone interview
April 11, 2002
"John Kerry,Ready For his Close Up "-Paul Alexander

Teresa Kerry tells Alexander that she FIRST became aware of Kerry's bizarre night time behavior,
when she shared a room with the Kerry daughters, before they were married.
She was awakened in the night by a man screaming and " BANGING ON THE WALLS."
Teresa was very upset and asked the daughters-what in the heck is that ??!!

The daughters told Teresa- " It's just Dad."

Obviously a nightly occurrence for the Kerry girls- Dad screaming and banging on his bedroom walls.
Teresa tried going back to sleep, but, was again awakened by Kerry banging on the walls in his nighttime frenzy.
She told him in the morning that he almost tore the house down and he replied " Vietnam."

Teresa started dating Kerry in 94 and they married in 95.

" The Heart of Politics
One Woman, Two Senators and Presidential Ambitions: The Washington Tale of John Kerry and Teresa Heinz"

By Mark Leibovich
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 2, 2002; Page F01

In this interview, which many in DC felt had ended Kerry's ambitions for the WH,
Teresa imitated Kerry's nighttime rages.
And Kerry refused to say if he had been in therapy.
Teresa indicated that he had been in therapy.

"I don't think I've had a nightmare in a long time," he says.
But then Heinz begins to mimic Kerry having a Vietnam nightmare. "

"Down! Down, down!" she yells, patting her hands down on her auburn hair."

"I haven't gotten slapped yet," she says. "But there were times when I thought I might get throttled."

Kerry gets nervous and tries to change the subject. The interviewer asks Kerry if he's been in therapy.
Teresa eggs him on to tell the truth and Kerry refuses.
Then Kerry contradicts himself-
earlier in the interview, he said he doesn't have them anymore,
but, then he says when he has them now,
he just goes back to sleep.

"Asked if he has been in therapy himself, he non-answers.
"It doesn't bother me anymore, I just go back to sleep."

Teresa gives Kerry the evil eye and looks at him, waiting for him to admit that he's been in therapy.
finally he says ,No.
Then she says-
"Not therapy for the dreams,
therapy for the angst."

In Joe Klein's interview for the New Yorker, in 2002, "The Long War of John Kerry,"

Kerry's good friend George Butler describes Kerry in a near catatonic state after Kerry's first election loss.
Butler says that he invited Kerry for the week end and Kerry refused to speak-he just built a model ship from scratch.
Kerry refused to speak for at least the entire week end-it may have gone on longer, we don't know.
Butler said that he had never seen a more depressed individual.

In Kerry's diary he writes about being so depressed in Vietnam, that he hoped for a court martial.
This was after he came back from an unauthorized trip into Cambodia.

"The Making of a Candidate, Part Two- " Boston Globe, June 16, 2003.

The new book, "Unfit For Command," adds more dimension to Kerry's delusions of grandeur and his mental pathology.

It's obvious by Kerry's own words and those of his family, that he has a history of depression and PTSD- at a minimum.
Probably NPD -narcissistic personality disorder, also.

NPD- A pattern of grandiosity, excessive need for admiration, entitlement, admiration and constant attention.

"A narcissistic individual has a shifting morality--always ready to shift values to gain favor."
Flip Flop.
"Their tendency is to form friendships or romantic relationships with only those that can enhance their self-esteem or advance their purposes."
His two marriages.

"A narcissist presents a false self to the world."
Kerry's whole life history is a mish mash of events and fantasies that don't mesh with reality.

"Under his inferiority is a preoccupation with fantasies of outstanding achievement."
Kerry's medals, Purple Hearts and war time feats.

"The narcissist uses others to aid him in any tasks he undertakes and
will frequently take credit for work which others have done.
Many examples in " Unfit For Command."

"Lying is an integral part of the narcissist's behavior and all their self-reports are unreliable."
David Brinkley and others who think Kerry's diary is true-take note.

"Narcissists will over inflate their own accomplishments, are boastful, and pretentious."
"They frequently will compare themselves to people of great accomplishments and
are surprised when others do not agree with them."
"In fact, it is not unusal for the narcissist to compare himself with God."

From Kerry's diary ,Page 244, "Tour of Duty "-
after comparing himself to Winston Churchill, Kerry writes his mother-
" Besides, I am so conceited
I do not believe the gods would create so potent a being as myself for so prosaic an ending. "

"A narcissistic individual expects favorable treatment from others and wants automatic compliance with his requests."

"For instance he does not feel he should be made to wait in line and expects to be the center of attention."

The Boston media and Hugh Hewitt are replete with examples of Kerry pushing to the front of a line.

Kerry's manufactured life history, plus his manufactured Vietnam history, smacks of delusional thinking and fantasy.

Which is why I believe his campaign refuses to release his miltary and medical records.
Because I can't be the first to notice Kerry's pattern of delusional and depressive behavior.


98 posted on 08/15/2004 7:39:09 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( Dear diary-I am a liar)
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To: PattonReincarnated
I would hate to think that what our congressmen and senators do is not public record.

Okay. We won't tell you then. :-P

99 posted on 08/15/2004 7:39:24 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16; Blessed; Carl/NewsMax

Here's an easy way to get Newsmax to look at their possibly erroneous article. :o)

PING CARL!


100 posted on 08/15/2004 7:40:11 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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