Posted on 08/16/2004 5:17:27 PM PDT by Ellen
I too, lived in Berlin - from '82 thru '85. Everything you say is true - although I don't know how things were in the '50s there. Since the airlift was in '49, I can't imagine that things were any simpler as far as crossing from East Berlin to West Berlin, or from The Zone to Berlin.
Just a little tidbit as to why my brother has some insight into the Berlin wall (aside for the fact that he worked with intel with the Army)...My brother was helping at a refugee camp for those who were fleeing E. Berlin through Chek(?) just before the wall came down. He met and married a girl who made the daring escape and it was much publicized in the press as the first such marriage.
Well....clinton travelled freely around Easten Europe during the cold war...so I guess John F'n "flip-flop fop" Kerry could have biked through.....wonder if he was "color coordinated" as well......?
Most children travel on their mother's passport. Children do no receive Diplomatic Passports, they are dependents.
Can it be verified anywhere if Kerry had a passport as a twelve year old?
I thought Ketchup Boy's 'Berlin story' would be him taking out Hitler's bunker single-handedly or some such thing.
When my family moved to Berlin in May of 1989, everyone laughed at my dad when he told them we'd live to see the fall of the Berlin Wall. Come November 9 of the same year, those people were crying tears of joy. Never was it so sweet to be wrong.
I believe that the Soviets destroyed Hitler's bunker in 1948 Thus it could not have been visited by someone who came to Germany in 1954.
From the Discovery Channel: "At the end of the war, the Red Army sealed the bunker and although, the location of Hitler's last hide-away has always been known, pieces of the concrete and reinforced roof have only come to light in October of 1999. A debate has continued about what to do with the bunker -- bury, destroy or excavate."
http://dsc.discovery.com/anthology/unsolvedhistory/inside/inside.html
I do not imagine it was different in the 1950's.. Children twelve years of age have their own passports. And IIRC diplomatic children get regular, not diplomatic, passports.
Bored as a lawyer in Boston in 1976, the future presidential hopeful opened ``Kilvert & Forbes'' cookie and muffin shop here. It's still here, at 200 Faneuil Hall Marketplace, though Kerry sold it in 1986.
I wonder if he paid emloyees above minimum wage or gave them health insurance.( like he thinks should be done now)
Remember when Gore told his 'son lay dying in his arms' story at the DNC four years ago? He knew his weakness and was trying to convice people that he was a real, human, frail person who could identify with the cares of the average man.
Kerry knows his weakness. (Well, he has many but for the sake of the election - you know what I mean). His weakness with the electorate is foreign policy so he is lying his boots off trying to convice people he fully understands the realities and needs of war. Thus Cambodia. Thus Berlin, etc.
I was on my mothers passport when young, but received my own passport prior to being 11 years old.....Immediate family of diplomats can have diplomatic status., A-1 or A-2.
I did not watch much of the DNC even though it was held not far from where I reside. I did not recall the portion of the speech where Kerry spoke of riding his bike through the Soviet sector iof Berlin.
Therefore I checked just moments ago as I saved the speech. Drudge had it posted on line before Kerry actually enunciated it and I followed it along as Kerry read from the teleprompter at the Democrat Convention.
I completely overlooked or did not hear that part of the speech. It is simply laughable that Kerry pulled that one off as well. Clearly the man is pathological in his incessant presenting of falsehoods.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
On August 13, 1961 the Berlin Wall was erected and devided the city of Berlin.
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