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HACKERS TAKE AIM AT RNC
Defensetech ^ | 8/16/04

Posted on 08/17/2004 9:58:41 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Protesters have been targeting government and corporate websites for years. But when online activists strike at Republican domains during the G.O.P.'s convention later this month, the digital demonstrations might turn out to be more than symbolic, for once.

In the past, activists have been able to shut down the website of, say, the World Economic Forum for a few hours. But the impact of such a takedown was nebulous at best: It's hard to argue the organization really suffered from a few-hour lag in posting its press releases online.

In this year's presidential race, however, campaign websites have moved beyond the margins. During John Kerry's acceptance speech in Boston last month, for example, his website was visited by 50,000 people an hour, according to ComScore Networks, the online traffic-measuring firm. That's a droplet compared to the millions who'll watch the convention on TV. But taking down a campaign website would nevertheless remove a critical tool for reaching the public -- and likely generate a slew of stories in the mainstream media about the crash.

So it's no surprise that hardened electronic activists are planning to jam up the servers of georgewbush.com, rnc.org, and related websites, once the Republican National Convention gets underway on August 29.

"We want to bombard (the Republican sites) with so much traffic that nobody can get in," said CrimethInc, a member of the so-called Black Hat Hackers Bloc.


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1 posted on 08/17/2004 9:58:41 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

"said CrimethInc..."

Liberal media covering for these savages by allowing them to use aliases. Unconscionable.


2 posted on 08/17/2004 10:00:46 AM PDT by jojodamofo
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To: areafiftyone
Are there Republican CEs far more talented than these one trick script kiddies?

Of course.

Yet they didn't launch a DOS on the Kerry/Edwards website.

Again, we see which side of the debate is civilized.

3 posted on 08/17/2004 10:01:43 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: areafiftyone

I was just going to put this up. Did you see this on DUmmiesville? That's where I saw it.


4 posted on 08/17/2004 10:02:17 AM PDT by RogerWilko
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To: areafiftyone
"We want to bombard (the Republican sites) with so much traffic that nobody can get in," said CrimethInc, a member of the so-called Black Hat Hackers Bloc.

Becuz free speech iz 4 lozerz!

5 posted on 08/17/2004 10:03:05 AM PDT by smith288 (Verry Leftwards '04)
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To: jojodamofo

"crimethink" - the one-word Orwellian catch phrase for the Declaration of Independence.

Coincidence?


6 posted on 08/17/2004 10:03:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: areafiftyone

Sounds like this is one time we can help the GOP by avoiding their website.


7 posted on 08/17/2004 10:03:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Here, bite down on this.)
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To: areafiftyone

GWB should by a super computing cluster to use as a host for his web site. And when the campaign is over, they could donate it to an adult stem cell research firm.


8 posted on 08/17/2004 10:05:40 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: jojodamofo

Not to defend the liberal media, but I am sure they are quoting a post the guy made somewhere, and don't know his real name any more than I know yours (unless your real name is jojodamofo).


9 posted on 08/17/2004 10:07:41 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: areafiftyone
"We want to bombard (the Republican sites) with so much traffic that nobody can get in," said CrimethInc, a member of the so-called Black Hat Hackers Bloc.

The "Black Hat Hackers Bloc" are nothing but scriptkiddies and anklebiters. I've dealt with their kind before: pimply-faced pissant punks who couldn't get laid in a morgue.

I personally hope that "CrimethInc" enjoys tossing Bubba's salad. That's precisely where he's headed if he keeps this crap up...

10 posted on 08/17/2004 10:10:05 AM PDT by Prime Choice (I remember when John Kerry last lied to us. It is seared into my mind.)
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To: areafiftyone

And the Dept of Homeland Defense will be monitoring and tracing attacks on these sites to root out a few more of these spoiled rotten trust fund babies.


11 posted on 08/17/2004 10:12:48 AM PDT by UseYourHead (This November, remember who the terrorists are voting for.)
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To: dead
My real name is jojodamofo!

What's all this brouhaha and folderol?

12 posted on 08/17/2004 10:14:28 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: dead; jojodamofo
This pathetic person apparently has a blog.
13 posted on 08/17/2004 10:16:44 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: areafiftyone
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1185322/posts(August 5, 2004)

Members of a group opposed to the Republican National Convention, many describing themselves as anarchists, said yesterday that they would carry out illegal protest activities on the convention's second day.

In this thread, someone posted a link to a list of scheduled speakers at a hacker convention. This was the key information that I saw when I went to that link:

Electronic Civil Disobedience and the Republican National Convention

An introduction to the theory of hacktivism and the usage of hacking skills as a means of fighting for social justice by pressuring corporations and government to adopt progressive changes. Explores the history of electronic civil disobedience, tips on how to wage your own ECD campaigns, and how to participate in the upcoming actions to coincide with the protests against the Republican National Convention in late August.

CrimetheInc is an Anarchist hacker revolutionary having led successful electronic civil disobedience campaigns against a variety of government and corporate targets. Experienced political activist, having helped organize dozens of large protests against the war in Iraq, global capitalism and neo-liberal free trade agreements. Is currently organizing a multi-pronged hacktivist campaign against the Republican National Convention to coincide with the massive demonstrations to take place in New York City. Specific history about the speaker is not available due to the nature of this project.

"Civil Disobedience"? No. Vandalism caused by Brownshirts For Kerry.

14 posted on 08/17/2004 10:18:29 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: jojodamofo
Actually, they use the aliases like their real names. The aliases are used in the forums/blogs they post to. It IS their name when they are on the Net. Their hacker alias is their celebrity. A claim to fame of sorts - not just for the GOP convention but always....All their exploits, published code, etc. are under their cyber-names.

Hit a few hacker sites, and you'll see they all use aliases. Of course, the reason why is a no brainer ; )

15 posted on 08/17/2004 10:19:35 AM PDT by softengine (Single lady seeking single guy.)
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To: dead
The media has inquired of several FReepers real names and even printed them in their articles. When a FReeper tells the "journalist" that they don't like to give out his real name, the journalist will tell readers that the "outspoken" FReeper hides behind a pseudonym. Never mind that some FReepers have been harassed at home, work, and even had their employers harassed over postings.
16 posted on 08/17/2004 10:21:16 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Old Sarge
"crimethink" - the one-word Orwellian catch phrase for the Declaration of Independence.

Coincidence?

Nice catch.

17 posted on 08/17/2004 10:21:32 AM PDT by softengine (Single lady seeking single guy.)
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To: RogerWilko

Actually I did see it there but they were posting from Wired News which we can't post on this website. I posted another article from DefenseTech and I saw this one on the same page so I figured DefenseTech has not complained yet about copywrite infringement.


18 posted on 08/17/2004 10:23:34 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: weegee
Apparently this crimethinc fellow wasn't too popular at Defcon (the hacker convention):

Tempers Flare

Unfortunately I was unable to attend the Electronic Civil Disobedience and the Republican National Convention talk given by a teenager called CrimetheInc (real name unknown). With a talk title like that, you know that sparks may fly, and they did. I cannot report exactly what the speaker said, as the tape has not yet been made available. Hopefully they will appear on the Defcon media archives page soon. According to eyewitnesses who saw the talk, some attendees took offense to what the speaker was saying. At the end of the talk, someone ran up to the stage and tried to assault the speaker. Security grabbed the speaker and placed him in isolation for a few hours.

http://www20.tomshardware.com/business/200408021/defcon-07.html

19 posted on 08/17/2004 10:25:30 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: areafiftyone

Simple, the people watching will get their eye candy, but for putting out information, have several websites to do such with and hand a paper to the press at the convention based on what is easiest to use.


20 posted on 08/17/2004 10:25:45 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: areafiftyone
So it's no surprise that hardened electronic activists are planning to jam up the servers of georgewbush.com, rnc.org, and related websites, once the Republican National Convention gets underway on August 29.

We can include Free Republic in that list too, I'd wager.

Prairie

21 posted on 08/17/2004 10:26:27 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: smith288
Becuz free speech iz 4 lozerz!

You fail the l33t-speak final. A better form would be:

FR33 $P33CH I$ 4 LU$3R$ (I AM L33T!!!)

22 posted on 08/17/2004 10:29:45 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: prairiebreeze
We can include Free Republic in that list too, I'd wager.

Probably. "Step into my parlor", said the spider to the fly...

23 posted on 08/17/2004 10:31:23 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Diplomats. The best diplomat I know of is a fully loaded phaser bank" - Cdr. Montgomery Scott)
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To: kevkrom
You fail the l33t-speak final.

You use an online wizard to make l33t speak, dont you? Fess up....

24 posted on 08/17/2004 10:31:34 AM PDT by smith288 (Verry Leftwards '04)
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To: areafiftyone
Actually I did see it there but they were posting from Wired News which we can't post on this website.

Hmmm. Maybe you should notify Wired of DU's infraction.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

Unless they are playing "favorites" by not directly authorizing such use (These publishers have asked us not to allow any material at all to be posted to FR: wired.com).

25 posted on 08/17/2004 10:58:19 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: smith288
You use an online wizard to make l33t speak, dont you? Fess up....

Nope... just spent waaaay too much time on the Internet in general (back to the old Usenet days), and Slashdot.org in particular.

26 posted on 08/17/2004 11:02:12 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: jojodamofo

Would you prefer that the Press be an arm of a Gestapo?


27 posted on 08/17/2004 11:02:14 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered.©)
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To: kevkrom
FR33 $P33CH I$ 4 LU$3R$ (I AM L33T!!!)

Ack.. what a poser I am... this is better...

PHR33 $P33X I$ 4 LU53RZ (I @|\/| 'L33T!!!)

28 posted on 08/17/2004 11:08:52 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: areafiftyone

A good firewall will defeat anything except a massive distributed DOS attack. Setting that up would require launching a trojan to infect unsuspecting internet users.


29 posted on 08/17/2004 11:08:57 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: jojodamofo
Bush doctrine is preemption.

Attack them and their supporters (like DNC, MoveOn.org, etc.) first.

Might not be a bad idea for dealing with the protesters as well. Took most of the sizzle out of the anti-Vietnam 1971 attempt to "shut down the government" in DC. Strike them in their marshaling areas the day prior. Shut down their websites with electronic attacks, jam their cell phone numbers, arrest them for every sort of even marginally illegal activity. Make no pretense of civil tolerance for their uncivil demonstrations and dissent.

Oh, and as Shakespeare so eloquently put it..."The first thing we do is kill all the (their) lawyers." Figuratively speaking, of course.

30 posted on 08/17/2004 11:30:23 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: Yonkers Finest
"Manhattan is gonna be a disaster area. Bad enough NYPD has to worry about securing Madison Square Garden but now they're gonna have to contend with tens of thousands of nutjobs"

Maybe so, but if any police department can deal with this, it is New York's. Think about what they've dealt with over the past few years. An extra 60,000 or 70,000 people in town for a few days is barely perceptible. And if some punks get out of line...well...let's just say the Apple ain't Seattle.

32 posted on 08/17/2004 12:09:47 PM PDT by Ol' Sox (Isa u Akbar)
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To: areafiftyone

Apparently a couple of Republican sites are down right now- at the same time.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1193455/posts?page=10


33 posted on 08/17/2004 3:12:08 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Riley

bump!


34 posted on 08/17/2004 3:13:45 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: Riley

MAN THE COMPUTER STATIONS.....WATCH OUT FOR THE ENEMY viruses. RED ALERT!!!


35 posted on 08/17/2004 3:15:27 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: jojodamofo
"Liberal media covering for these savages by allowing them to use aliases. Unconscionable."

Kind of tough to use his real name when no one knows it. For what it's worth, he was removed by security at Defcon (a 'hacker' convention) during his speech because his ranting on about attacking the RNC angered some in the audience to the point that they rushed the stage to physically attack him. During his speech, one of the organizers of Defcon took over the mic for a couple of minutes to specifically distance himself, the staff, and the con from what was being said.
36 posted on 08/17/2004 3:16:32 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: js1138
"A good firewall will defeat anything"

Precisely the type of thinking that gets so many corporate computers rooted. These days, the computers are left to be as insecure as ever with the solution du jour being, "stick a [security appliance] in front of it and you'll be fine". Guess what - it a'int fine.

"Setting that up would require launching a trojan to infect unsuspecting internet users."

Why? There are millions of compromised systems sitting on wide open broadband connections just waiting for someone to issue commands as the clueless owner wonders why his internet connection seems slow all of a sudden.
37 posted on 08/17/2004 3:23:27 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: weegee
"Civil Disobedience"? No. Vandalism caused by Brownshirts For Kerry.

It's not vandalism. It's destruction of property and unauthorized access to computers. Those are felonies.

38 posted on 08/17/2004 3:25:27 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ˇ°ml maximizeˇ± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: js1138

A “Good Firewall” is only an inconvenience. I have a public IP, and one night, I was up at 2 AM (I am a Programmer who was a Hacker long enough ago that the statutes have expired…) and my public Network lights up with activity that I am not causing, so I log on to the Server, some guy has gotten through the hardware firewall (not hard) and is port scanning my server, I fire up some software I have, back trace his IP through a couple of remote controlled computers, and find out his IP is from the old Soviet block. I started a scan of his home IP, and he shut down his computer faster than you can say OOPS!!! (then I blocked all the IP Addresses belonging to his ISP)

The point is, if these guys want to get caught, just attack where people will be watching… (That’s a Dare, go on Attack the GOP during their Convention, and you WILL be caught), So come on guys (and gals) show how sneaky you are attack a big heavily watched site, make a name for your selves, and help us get you off the (net) streets.

I was a smart Hacker, if there is such a thing, because: 1) I never damaged anything 2) I never bragged about where I’d been, and 3) I decided on my own it was not a fun game without having to be caught.

Cheers


39 posted on 08/17/2004 4:00:12 PM PDT by DelphiUser
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To: NJ_gent
Precisely the type of thinking that gets so many corporate computers rooted.

I thought I was being clear that a firewall could defend against a DOS attack. Nothing else was implied. Of course a massive attack will overwhelm the pipe, but that's hard to pull off.

40 posted on 08/17/2004 5:07:44 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: js1138
"I thought I was being clear that a firewall could defend against a DOS attack."

That's a little better, but it's still dependent on the firewall. Depending on what the DoS attack consists of and exactly what the firewall is (appliance, pc, simple broadband router, etc), the firewall can still potentially go down with relatively minor traffic. As for DDoS attacks, you only need as much bandwidth in all the zombies as the target has downstream. For most small to medium size companies, that's usually less than 3mbps. With the surge in home broadband services offering 256 and 384k upstream, you can suddenly take down a T-1 line with under 10 rooted victims. If the company is smart, they've got a backup account that can remain running while the service provider for whatever the webserver is on gets their act together to filter the DDoS. If they're super smart, they've got the webserver located offsite so that their network isn't risked by such a flagrantly insecure machine on the network.
41 posted on 08/18/2004 8:34:09 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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