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Poll: 75% of US Jews favor Kerry over Bush
Jpost ^ | 17 aug 04 | Janine Zacharia

Posted on 08/17/2004 10:26:07 AM PDT by white trash redneck

A new poll commissioned by the National Jewish Democratic Council says American Jews will still vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry, despite US President George W. Bush's policies toward Israel, which have been widely praised by the Jewish community.

The poll, released on Monday, said American Jews preferred Kerry to Bush by a 75 to 22 percent margin. The survey of 817 likely Jewish voters was conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research between July 26 and 28, and has a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percent.

Respondents said in 2000 they had voted for Vice President Al Gore over Bush by a similar margin of 76 to 21 percent.

Exit polls in 2000 showed Gore won 79 percent of the Jewish vote, and Bush 19 percent.

"The White House and (President Bush's political adviser) Karl Rove in particular have expended a lot of resources on this Jewish vote. Just like with Hispanics, they've come up with zero," said Ira Forman, executive director of NJDC.

Matthew Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a rival group, discounted the survey's results since the poll was taken during the Democratic Convention in Boston.

"I discount these findings because this poll was taken right in the middle of the Democratic Convention, right in the middle of a massive deluge of Kerry press coverage," Brooks said.

"We stand firmly committed to the notion that President Bush will do substantially better among Jewish voters than he did in 2000," Brooks added.

Another survey of American Jewish opinion in January found that 31 percent of Jews would support Bush when matched with Kerry, who was not yet the nominee at the time.

The new NJDC survey said 66 percent found Kerry to be better on the issue of Israel, while 34 percent found Bush to be. Only 23 percent of respondents felt the country was moving in the right direction, while 77 percent said it was on the wrong track. Twenty-five percent approved strongly or somewhat of the way Bush is handling his job as president, while 75 percent disapproved strongly or somewhat.

A new national Zogby survey released Monday showed Kerry ahead of Bush 47 to 43 percent. Without Independent Ralph Nader and other candidates the lead stretched to 50 to 43 percent.


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Every time I read an article like this, I want to tear my hair out. However, no matter how gullible American Jews seem to be, the Palesterrorists clearly know who their friend is:

PA silently supports Kerry in US election

Palestinian officials are quietly pinning their hopes on Democratic candidate John Kerry winning the US presidential election.

Former US Middle East envoy Denis Ross is likely to be reappointed should Kerry win the American elections, a Palestinian Authority source said.

Ross has contacted with Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei and other Palestinian officials during recent visits to the region. He unofficially briefed the Palestinians on the potential new administration's Middle East plans, the source said.

Palestinians expect Kerry's Middle East policy to be closer to that of former US president Bill Clinton.

During the presidential election, senior Palestinian officials openly endorsed George W. Bush against Al Gore. The same PA officials who were outraged when Clinton placed the blame for the failure of the Camp David peace talks on PA Chairman Yasser Arafat now admit they have been disappointed and say any other administration "can only serve their interests better."

"We don't want to repeat the same mistake so let's wait and see who will win the elections and how they will deal with the Middle East," a PA Foreign Ministry official said. "I do not believe Kerry wants to publicize any plans for the Middle East or any contacts with the Palestinians so as not to hurt his election campaign," the official added.

He did not think Kerry's outlook will be very different from Bush's policies. Kerry might appoint former national security adviser Sandy Berger as secretary of state, in which case Ross is likely to be appointed Middle East envoy, another PA source confirmed.

"We believe the [pro-Palestinian Authority] State Department will play the major role again, instead of the national security adviser and secretary of defense," another source reported.

Qurei is trying to convince the American administration and Democrats of his proposal to deploy armed policemen in Palestinian cities in the West Bank to enforce law and order and enable an IDF withdrawal.

Israel has not yet responded to a PA demand for a senior security meeting to coordinate the deployment of PA policemen and agree on the type of weapons they would be allowed to carry and their numbers.

1 posted on 08/17/2004 10:26:13 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck

Interesting that a Jewish group is more concerned with the results of a poll than which candidate would be best for the group's interests.


2 posted on 08/17/2004 10:29:40 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: white trash redneck

How could such an educated and responsible group of people be so politically stupid for so long?


3 posted on 08/17/2004 10:30:03 AM PDT by Right Wing Puppy (Bush is stronger than you think.)
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To: white trash redneck
Poll: 75% of US Jews favor Kerry over Bush

You have GOT to be kidding me! Kerry will do his damnedest to fork Israel over to the Palestinian terrorists faster than you can say "suicide bomber"!

4 posted on 08/17/2004 10:30:12 AM PDT by Prime Choice (I remember when John Kerry last lied to us. It is seared into my mind.)
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To: white trash redneck
Kerry might appoint former national security adviser Sandy Berger as secretary of state, in which case Ross is likely to be appointed Middle East envoy, another PA source confirmed.

Gawd Almighty I'm having a nightmare reading this!
5 posted on 08/17/2004 10:30:53 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: All

I know what Kerry's plan for the Middle East is!

He is going to attempt to broker a peace between Palestine and Israel by disarming Israel.

This will bring out the Israeli Zionists, who are for the most part quiet compared to the Palestinian militants.

Kerry's diplomatic efforts in the past have always focused on disarming our friends first, hoping that the enemy would take that as a sign of good faith and follow suit.

Kerry's foreign policy efforts are all failures.


6 posted on 08/17/2004 10:31:33 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: Prime Choice

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Islamonazis want Kerry to win in November. What else need be said? SSZ


7 posted on 08/17/2004 10:32:17 AM PDT by szweig
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To: white trash redneck

Please dont take this as being Anti -Semitic, but if 76% of American jews like Kerry over Bush there are some dumb-assed American jews.


8 posted on 08/17/2004 10:33:19 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: white trash redneck
Headline should read: Self-hating Jews and Jew-Hating Islamists support Kerry over Bush.
9 posted on 08/17/2004 10:33:39 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: white trash redneck

You know something? It will serve them right if something really horrible happens to Israel if Kerry gets elected. Sad to say but sometimes people need a painfull reminder of who their real friends are.

If and when something bad happens, tell the Jewish voting block that while we are sorry for the damage done, Israeli blood rests on their hands this time around.

Also be sure to remind them that they have also found something to agree on with the people sworn to eradicate their race:

Kerry for President in 2004


10 posted on 08/17/2004 10:33:52 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: white trash redneck
Poll: 75% of US Jews favor Kerry over Bush

In my 43+ years on this earth, this is one thing for which I cannot figure an explanation. How could so many reject the one guy who is more committed than just about anyone else to maintaining Israel's strength in the Middle East?

11 posted on 08/17/2004 10:33:56 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: white trash redneck

What the heck is wrong with these folks? Talk about an ostrich brigade! They are the ultimate example of appeasment and where it gets you.... I wonder if they will have regrets, if a President Kerry ends all aid and comfort to Israel?


12 posted on 08/17/2004 10:34:08 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: white trash redneck

Very disappointing numbers. Do Jews not follow politics? I dont get it.


13 posted on 08/17/2004 10:34:21 AM PDT by No Blue States (Hype is on the way! Kerry/Edwards)
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To: white trash redneck

Isn't it odd that the one thing a majority of Palestinians and American Jews agree on is Kerry?


14 posted on 08/17/2004 10:34:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Rummyfan

"Gawd Almighty I'm having a nightmare reading this!"

When kerry probably wins this, I'm just out of politics. I'll hope the AWB expires and will hope my taxes don't double, but I simply can't 'follow' politics again if this happens.


15 posted on 08/17/2004 10:35:38 AM PDT by Kornev
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To: Prime Choice

We can take some solace in the fact that this poll was conducted by a Democratic organization and is therefore likely to skew the results. While Kerry will of course take the majority of the Jewish vote -- which after all is more concerned about preserving liberalism than caring about Israel -- it does not seem possible that Bush would do as poorly among Jewish voters as he did in 2000. Completely unscientific, but I personally know quite a few Jewish voters who have changed from anti to pro-Bush since 9-11. I don't know any who have gone in the other direction.


16 posted on 08/17/2004 10:35:46 AM PDT by speedy
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To: white trash redneck

I wonder what percentage of Jews in Isreal prefer Bush over Kerry?


17 posted on 08/17/2004 10:36:36 AM PDT by marktuoni (Verry/Backwards)
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To: Numbers Guy
Interesting that a Jewish group is more concerned with the results of a poll than which candidate would be best for the group's interests.

They think that voting for Kerry is in their interest. One reason that Jews prefer the Democrats is that they are the most socially leftist ethnic group in America: they are more concerned about legal abortion than Israel.

Quite frankly, anyone who resides in America should be more concerned about what goes on this country than in any other -- otherwise, more there.

18 posted on 08/17/2004 10:36:43 AM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: Numbers Guy
A new poll commissioned by the National Jewish Democratic Council

Consider the source! I think the Jewish vote will go for Bush in historic numbers....

19 posted on 08/17/2004 10:37:18 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: sgtbono2002

I don't understand the Jewish community's ties to the Democrats. It really makes no sense. Republicans have a better Israeli policy, have a better tax policy, and have a stronger policy on National Defense.

The only thing that I can think of that might be a drawback is the religious ties that the party has with the Christian conservatives that might turn the Jewish population off. But besides that Jews are generally successful and care about their homeland, and should buy into the Republican message hook, line, and sinker. I just don't get it. Never have, and never will.


20 posted on 08/17/2004 10:37:44 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: marktuoni
I wonder what percentage of Jews in Isreal prefer Bush over Kerry?

I believe there was a poll done recently where the majority of the Israeli Jews polled preferred Bush over Kerry.

21 posted on 08/17/2004 10:37:57 AM PDT by PallMal
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To: Right Wing Puppy
How could such an educated and responsible group of people be so politically stupid for so long?

[singing] "tradition, tradition, Tradition!"

22 posted on 08/17/2004 10:38:16 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: white trash redneck

What can possibly be the reason for this? Are Jews more anti-Christian than pro-Israel?


23 posted on 08/17/2004 10:38:18 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Rummyfan
It would almost appear that many in the Jewish community fear conservative Christians more than the PA. I guess they would rather their brothers and sisters in Israel die than run the risk of Christian conversions over here.
24 posted on 08/17/2004 10:38:33 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: speedy
When kerry probably wins this, I'm just out of politics.

I know what you mean. I think Kerry would be Carter II, and this is a very bad time for a Carter II. We're lucky enough to have survived the original.

25 posted on 08/17/2004 10:38:52 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Numbers Guy

Does this poll include Forida's 'Orange County'?


26 posted on 08/17/2004 10:39:22 AM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: white trash redneck

It is as amazing to me that Jews would vote for the party of anti-Semitism as it is that blacks vote the party of racism. They've all lost their minds.


27 posted on 08/17/2004 10:39:29 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Right Wing Puppy

just look at unions members, vote to take their own guns away and raise their taxes...among other things


28 posted on 08/17/2004 10:39:46 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece:Kerry/Edwards...so full of crap they need two Johns.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Its like cows voting for Hamburger Helper.


29 posted on 08/17/2004 10:40:13 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: blasater1960

Dream on. It Ain't gonna happen. Not in our life time.


30 posted on 08/17/2004 10:40:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Puppy (Bush is stronger than you think.)
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To: PallMal
I believe there was a poll done recently where the majority of the Israeli Jews polled preferred Bush over Kerry.

Correct. The harsh reality in which they live on a daily basis brings good sense.

31 posted on 08/17/2004 10:41:01 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: white trash redneck

All you have to know to determine that the results of that poll are statistically biased is to see who conducted it.
The only question is what percentage of the Jewish vote will Bush actually get. An intuitive guess is somewhere in the 30s. Although that might not seem like much, if Bush had done that in Florida in 2000, there would have been no recount circus.


32 posted on 08/17/2004 10:41:31 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: white trash redneck
I can't understand the Jewish support of Democrats. It is insanely illogical. If somehow Bush wins and the Jews do vote +70% for Kerry, then Bush should do the only honorable thing and respond to their desires. He should say "since the Jewish Americans overwhelming supported Kerry, I will abide by their desires and do the following. I am proposing to eliminate all financial aid to Israel and minimum support otherwise."

I can't stand how they want their cake and eat it too. Let these groups finally bear the consequences of their actions. We are damned if we do, damned if we don't. If these groups don't have negative consequences put upon them by their choices, then they will continue to support Democrats at no cost to their pork. The Reps in the pass ignored such block voting against them and not there is a good chance Bush will lose in Nov b/c of it.

33 posted on 08/17/2004 10:41:45 AM PDT by liberty2004
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To: white trash redneck

That needs a self-genocide alert!

Can a people really be that dumb at times?
According to this poll, yes.

Makes me understand what Moses was put through coming down from the mountain with the 10 commandments.
Even his own brother was doing the wrong thing, so this is a historic pattern of getting things wrong at times.

How can a people known for good business sense seem to lack total common sense at times?


34 posted on 08/17/2004 10:41:59 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: white trash redneck
A new poll commissioned by the National Jewish Democratic Council

I don't buy it. Consider the source!

35 posted on 08/17/2004 10:42:15 AM PDT by inkling
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To: RogueIsland

The one good thing you can say about Carter -- he was so bad, he made it possible for Reagan to get elected. As far as I can see, that is the only service he ever rendered to the United States.


36 posted on 08/17/2004 10:42:30 AM PDT by speedy
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To: sgtbono2002
... but if 76% of American jews like Kerry over Bush there are some dumb-assed American jews.

Agree ... combine the fact that Jews typically vote democ'Rat' and Kerry can claim (honestly, for once) that he has Jewish ancestry ... on his father's side of the family. Of course, Kerry being Kerry, led Massachusett voters to believe he was of Irish extraction for most of his political career.

37 posted on 08/17/2004 10:42:49 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Rakkasan1

Good point. But the majority of Jews don't belong to unions. They have grossly misplaced paranoia if you ask me.


38 posted on 08/17/2004 10:42:54 AM PDT by Right Wing Puppy (Bush is stronger than you think.)
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To: misterrob

My thoughts exactly.


39 posted on 08/17/2004 10:43:00 AM PDT by Muzzle_em
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To: white trash redneck

Well isn't this a kick in the junk! If they got their wish it would be hard to feel any empathy for the adverse consequenses they would suffer.


40 posted on 08/17/2004 10:43:11 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Numbers Guy

I don't get it. I thought that Jews were the ultimate capitalists. Why would they go for socialist kerry. Jews in have been persecuted by socialists for decades. And what about Israel. Something stinks here.


41 posted on 08/17/2004 10:43:54 AM PDT by ampat
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To: No Blue States
Very disappointing numbers. Do Jews not follow politics? I dont get it.

Many liberal Jews are more afraid of Christian fundamentalism than they are of a foreign threat posed by Arabs. Israeli Jews aren't so confused on this issue...

42 posted on 08/17/2004 10:44:08 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: white trash redneck

The American Jewish community pays lip service to supporting Israel but is far more concerned with themselves. For example when polled they are much more willing to give up land for peace (as if that works) than Israeli citizens are. They think Kerry is better for them and really don't care what happens in Israel.


43 posted on 08/17/2004 10:44:39 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (Bush, DeLay and Armstrong - Good to be a Texan.)
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To: white trash redneck

So Pat Buchanan is correct to have a pro Arab view.


44 posted on 08/17/2004 10:44:39 AM PDT by COURAGE (A charter member of the Grim FReeper Club)
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To: white trash redneck

This reflects the secularization (and liberalization) of ethnic Jews. We Christians who support Israel are called upon to make them jealous for their God.


45 posted on 08/17/2004 10:44:55 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Right Wing Puppy

This Poll was done by a Clinton Poller.

I'm a Jew and never defore have I heard so many of my Jewish friends say they are either voting for Bush or not at all ebcause of their disgust not for the Dem party so much but with the Dem electorate.


46 posted on 08/17/2004 10:45:32 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: white trash redneck

I wouldn't trust any foreign polls, regardless of the group.


47 posted on 08/17/2004 10:45:33 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: Right Wing Puppy
How could such an educated and responsible group of people be so politically stupid for so long?

Mental illness.

48 posted on 08/17/2004 10:45:52 AM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Right Wing Puppy
Over 50% of Jews under 30 voted for Bush in 2000, and this was before many switched to the GOP after witnessing the abject failure of Democrat/Labor policies at stopping Islamist terror.
49 posted on 08/17/2004 10:46:09 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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