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Kerry's fellow 'Swiftees' dispute his Purple Hearts (Excerpt #1 from "Unfit for Command"
Washington Times ^ | Aug. 18, 2004 | John O'Neill

Posted on 08/17/2004 11:03:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion

A number of the combat commanders, fellow officers and other men who served with Sen. John Kerry in Vietnam have challenged his accounts of combat heroism in a new book, "Unfit for Command" (Regnery Publishing), by John E. O´Neill, who took over command of Swift Boat PCF 94 from Lt. Kerry, and Jerome R. Corsi, a political scientist who has written extensively about the Vietnam War protest movement. Each of these excerpts from "Unfit for Command" includes comparisons of Mr. Kerry´s earlier published accounts to recollections of others who served with him.

First of three excerpts

Kerry, now the four-term senator from Massachusetts and the Democratic presidential nominee, is also the only known "Swiftee" who received the Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound. None of Kerry's three Purple Hearts was for serious injuries. They were minor scratches, resulting in no lost duty time. Each of these decorations is controversial, with considerable evidence (and in two cases, incontrovertible and conclusive evidence) that the injuries were caused by his own hand and not the result of hostile fire. Kerry's injuries are a subject of ridicule among fellow Swiftees.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bookexcerpt; johnoneill; kerry; swiftboatveterans; unfitforcommand; vietnam
Long, but worth reading.

Ask Kerry to sign the 180 and release his records.


1 posted on 08/17/2004 11:03:13 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

I got my copy yesterday and the volume of documentation,direct quotes and footnotes is impressive.
What is just unbelievable is the number of times, you read a sentence like-(sometimes 3 times on a page)
Kerry imagined this,
Kerry made this up,
Kerry lied about this,
Kerry fantasized this.
Each trip that Kerry took to Fantasy Island is fully documented by the eye witnesses, sometimes 20 others-whose recall is 180 from Kerry's.
Plus supporting paperwork .

As more and more people receive and read the book, the first reaction is shock that Kerry could have gotten away with this total fabrication for decades.
But, then you look at the treatment the book is getting now and you understand.


2 posted on 08/17/2004 11:16:02 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: FairOpinion

I am amazed that a newspaper finally printed the story. They also did not make the SBV look like liars. Maybe Kerry's campaign will finally start imploding.


3 posted on 08/17/2004 11:16:25 PM PDT by Merry
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To: FairOpinion
When Kerry was dispatched to go to An Thoi with Lt. Tedd Peck (who would retire as a Navy captain), Peck told him: "Kerry, follow me no closer than a thousand yards. If you get any closer, I'll teach you what a real Purple Heart is."

Ouch. That's gotta hurt.

4 posted on 08/17/2004 11:21:54 PM PDT by JennysCool (The Clinton Legacy: Sandy Berger's Pants)
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To: Merry

The Washington Times is a conservative paper.

It's still not in the "mainstream media".


5 posted on 08/17/2004 11:26:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion

Peck told him: "Kerry, follow me no closer than a thousand yards. If you get any closer, I'll teach you what a real Purple Heart is."


HAHAHAHAHA ! DAMN!


6 posted on 08/17/2004 11:32:07 PM PDT by Sgt. Pile E-6
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To: All
For the latest on this issue, plus everything else I have on The Franchurian Candidate, go to the "last" here & work backwards:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

If you wish to support the SBV, click the picture:


7 posted on 08/17/2004 11:36:31 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: FairOpinion
When Kerry was dispatched to go to An Thoi with Lt. Tedd Peck (who would retire as a Navy captain), Peck told him: "Kerry, follow me no closer than a thousand yards. If you get any closer, I'll teach you what a real Purple Heart is."

That is one very damning quote.

Peck was the skipper of PCF-94. His January action (that resulted in him and Alston being wounded) was the one kerry tried to claim as his own. He caught on very quickly that kerry couldn't be trusted.

8 posted on 08/17/2004 11:36:46 PM PDT by Bob
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To: FairOpinion

Yes, but it's still being excerpted in the media......and with the amount of "talk" this will generate and the amount of people it will reach who maybe normally wouldn't buy the book, it is SOOOOOOO worth it!!!!! This AIN'T going away!!


9 posted on 08/17/2004 11:58:44 PM PDT by soozla (Definition of "Gun Control": USE BOTH HANDS!!)
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To: FairOpinion; The Bandit

HEY, the website
http://swiftboats.net/
is back up!

That's the one that does the best it can to list EVERY
swiftboat veteran it can, and the boat(s) he served on,
and when.


10 posted on 08/18/2004 12:10:41 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FairOpinion

Brinkley's book (Tour of Duty) the authorized and official biography of the weird one has Kerry writing in his diary that he has yet to be fired on by the enemy...and that comment is written nine days AFTER his so called first purple heart incident


11 posted on 08/18/2004 12:12:21 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: Capn DOC; Chad Fairbanks

HEY, the website
http://swiftboats.net/
is back up!

That's the one that does the best it can to list EVERY
swiftboat veteran it can, and the boat(s) he served on,
and when.


12 posted on 08/18/2004 12:12:32 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: jnarcus
"Brinkley's book (Tour of Duty) the authorized and official biography of the weird one has Kerry writing in his diary that he has yet to be fired on by the enemy...and that comment is written nine days AFTER his so called first purple heart incident."

Very interesting. I haven't heard this pointed out before.

Kerry's house of cards is starting to collapse.

13 posted on 08/18/2004 12:15:24 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion
Kerry is turning out to be a total fraud !

I bet he gets elected (I hope not) because most of the public are idiots when it comes to knowing who they are voting for.

14 posted on 08/18/2004 12:19:10 AM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: america-rules

"John Fraud Kerry reporting for duty, UN you now have total comtrol of our military. Just make sure you send someone in my administration a memo if you send our forces to war."


15 posted on 08/18/2004 12:38:29 AM PDT by Sgt. Pile E-6
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To: FL_engineer
HEY, the website http://swiftboats.net/ is back up!

I wish that bogus site would just die.

It lists kerry as having been on PCF-66 (which he wasn't) for his entire time there. It doesn't list him on PCF-44 or PCF-94 (which he was).

16 posted on 08/18/2004 12:52:56 AM PDT by Bob
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To: america-rules; All
Check this out. I think it says it better than anything I've read so far.

The Kerry Files: The Young Opportunists Handbook

17 posted on 08/18/2004 1:01:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: FairOpinion

I still want to hear Kerry explain how one gets a non-friendly fire shrapnel wound in a boat, while engaging the enemy on shore. It simply defies the laws of physics. If the VC fired a mortar or RPG at the boat and hit it they would have killed everyone in the boat. If they missed and hit the water there would have been no shrapnel. The only possible way to get shrapnel from the enemy in this situation is if the Vietcong had dropped a round on themselves with the resulting shrapnel hitting the boat. M40 grenades have very distinctive shrapnel and a medic or doctor with any experience would spot it instantly.


18 posted on 08/18/2004 1:10:16 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Casloy

its the magic shrapnel, he learned about that from JFK and the Warren Commission report or his buddy Teddy...


19 posted on 08/18/2004 1:12:54 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: FairOpinion

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

20 posted on 08/18/2004 3:12:17 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: JennysCool

'When Kerry was dispatched to go to An Thoi with Lt. Tedd Peck (who would retire as a Navy captain), Peck told him: "Kerry, follow me no closer than a thousand yards. If you get any closer, I'll teach you what a real Purple Heart is." '

Is that from the book? I can't see it in this article...


21 posted on 08/18/2004 6:41:01 AM PDT by bitt (Release all the records; sign the 180, john kerry.)
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To: bitt
It is. Follow the link to the entire Times article.
22 posted on 08/18/2004 7:37:44 AM PDT by JennysCool (The Clinton Legacy: Sandy Berger's Pants)
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To: JennysCool; The Bandit; doug from upland; crushkerry; Cincinatus' Wife; kattracks; Lando Lincoln; ..
excellent, thanks!
( I wonder if Kerry transferred OUT of coastal division 14, to division 11 because he had developed so poor a reputation with EVERYONE there? )
23 posted on 08/18/2004 10:49:57 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer

An excerpt from, Unfit for Command.

***On March 15, 2004, Admiral Hoffmann's telephone rang again. Once again, the caller was John Kerry. Kerry had clinched the Democratic nomination, and he
knew that Hoffmann was organizing Swiftees to bring out the truth about him, his exaggerated military record, and his antiwar lies that had slandered his fellow
veterans. Kerry made the admiral an offer: If you will back off and drop your efforts, I will ensure that my biography, Tour of Duty, which I know is unfair to you,
will be changed to make it accurate in a revised edition. Here is my secretary's number - you can get me anytime.

The offer from the Democratic presidential candidate was an attempt to flatter Hoffmann, a warrior whose coin is not power or wealth, but honnor--an honor deeply
impugned by Kerry's book. Hoffman, after all, is a wounded survivor of the amphibious assault at Wonson, Korea, where his minesweeper still lies below the frigid
waters of Wonson Harbor. Kerry knew that winning Hoffmann over to his side would thwart the Swiftees' efforts to discredit him. Hoffmann told Kerry that he and
the vast majority of his shipmates could never forgive him for his defamation of our Navy and other U.S. Armed Forces by his slanderous and undocumented
accusations of unspeakable atrocities in Vietnam before the U.S. COngress in 1971, his leadership in the VVAW, and his association with the traitorous Jane Fonda
and others of her ilk. Surprisingly, Kerry responded by simply saying that he "was expressing his conviction."

If Admiral Hoffmann were truly a butcher whose conduct "sickens" John Kerry to this day, an impression one could easily gain from reading Tour of Duty, then why
did Kerry offer to change inaccuracies he knew were in Tour of Duty in exchange for Admiral Hoffmann and the Swiftees ceasing their activities? In emails on May
3, 2003, and on May 7, 2004,trying to dissuade Swiftees from joining Admiral Hoffmann, Wade Sanders referred to the group as "bitter drunks," something the
sailors involved deeply resented. Moreover, Sanders referred to Joe Ponder, a seriously disabled Swiftee who cried when talking about Kerry's charges, as "a
whining crybaby."*** - pages 68-69


24 posted on 08/18/2004 10:51:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: FL_engineer
Excerpt from "Unfit for Command"

Tom Wright, another PCF commander at An Thoi, discussed John Kerry with several other Swiftees on base right after the March 13 incident. They were aware of the three Purple Heart rule that sounded like "three strikes and you're out." John Kerry could be sent home. So Wright approached Kerry one night and proposed to him that several fellow Swiftees on the base felt that it might be best for everybody if Kerry simply left. The next thing Wright knew, Kerry was gone, the exact result Wright hoped to achieve. Pg 92-93
25 posted on 08/18/2004 10:56:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: FairOpinion; All

The swift boat controversy - six letters

Wednesday, August 18, 2004

FYI, Kerry's military and medical records have indeed been released to the public ["As swift boat controversy swirls, DuPage Dems host Kerry crewmate Wasser," August 17, 2004]. They are posted on his website, www.johnkerry.com. Also, it's hard to trust the opinions coffered by men who never served with John Kerry, or the opinions of a man (John O'Neill) who is funded by a Republican-leaning PR agency. That's like asking me to trust a blind man to cut my hair; it's not a good idea and somebody might get hurt.


Josie Nericcio
Los Angeles, CA






The charge that President Bush was missing from his National Guard duty is misleading. President Bush was in Cambodia with Senator Kerry on his secret mission.


Kenneth Parady
Grand Rapids, MI






I am pleased to see that Mr. Wasser will attend an event in our area soon. I hope he will be able to help us clear up some of the charges against Sen. Kerry.


Please ask him what were the dates he was on the boat with Sen. Kerry and would he please respond to the allegations that then LT. Kerry made up or embellished much of the information he submitted for his awards? Was Mr. Wasser ever in Cambodia during his time on LT. Kerry's boat?


I would also be interested in knowing if Mr. Wasser was recruited by the campaign to support Sen. Kerry's election and what compensation, if any, he has received for his services including paid time off from his job (if he is not retired), travel expenses, living expenses, per-diem, and any other allowances or compensation. I have no knowledge that Mr. Wasser has been involved in any of the aforementioned, but believe his answers will help us decide the argument about Sen. Kerry's record in the RVN.


You [IL Leader] appear to be in a unique position to actually interview one of Sen. Kerry's supporters and ask the questions many of us have about this controversy. I have not read any account from any news organization where any of his crew has been fairly questioned; or questioned at all for that matter.


While I remain skeptical at this time about the accuracy of Sen. Kerry's accounts of these events, it will mean a great deal to me to hear directly from one of his supporters about their experiences during that time.


Please send me any further articles your newspaper publishes pertaining to Mr. Wasser and this event.


Dan Caulkins
Decatur






Thank God for the Internet! It has replaced the lack of investigative reporters in the main stream media. It's true that one must sort through the bogus as well as the factual, but the facts are there to be found.


Serious questions are being raised about Kerry's Viet Nam record. His "Christmas in Cambodia" statement made on the floor of the US Senate has proved to be false. If Kerry and "his crewman" David Alston would simply sign their Form 180's and release their service records, the US public would be able to better judge the facts.


Rev. Alston, who praised Kerry at the Democratic Convention, was injured on January 29, 1969 and evacuated, according to official Navy documents, the day before Kerry took command of Alston's boat, PCF-94. I would like to see from the official service records if he ever returned to serve with Kerry as he claims. Inquiring minds want to know!


I'll continue to sort out the facts from the fiction on the Internet, but I'm glad I don't have to wait for the mainstream media, 80% who vote Democratic, and who have given up any investigative journalism of their side!


David K. Tanner
Sausalito, CA






The news media needs to start hounding him for records and answers to the charges from the other swift boat crews.


Sid Morris
Bowling Green, OH






It is amazing the difference between hate mongers and intelligent souls ["Anti-Bush/Anti-Kerry - two letters," August 16, 2004]! It is quite apparent that Richard S. Russell has not done his homework but listens only to what the mainstream media has to offer. Whereas John Copeskey has most graciously and intelligently expressed his hurt and concern for what John Kerry has done to those who served so gallantly in Vietnam. His words echoed the thoughts of another reader whose son served in Vietnam as well.


I am so deeply touched that these people [this includes the Swift boat Crews] have come forward to educate those of us who know so little about the traumas and misconceptions of a "dirty war" heroically fought over thirty years ago.


My husband was in Naval Air in WWII. He received the Silver Star and Purple Heart. I know how important it is to keep the records straight -- something John Kerry will never understand. And now my grandson is in the National Guard honoring and serving his country.


What Richard Russell and his ilk should understand is that it was not George W. Bush being honored by the Viet Cong - it was John Kerry. Those were not George W. Bush's words being aired to the prisoners at the Hanoi Hilton - those viscously spewed words of hatred came from John Kerry.


Let us pray that the people of this country demand credibility and accountability from those who want to lead this great nation of ours!


JoAnn T. Travers
Kirkland


http://www.illinoisleader.com/letters/lettersview.asp?c=18697


26 posted on 08/18/2004 11:06:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: FL_engineer

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 08/18/2004 11:15:46 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FL_engineer
( I wonder if Kerry transferred OUT of coastal division 14, to division 11 because he had developed so poor a reputation with EVERYONE there? )

I wouldn't include the parentheses. Most people can smell a phony. ;^)

28 posted on 08/18/2004 11:51:20 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: FL_engineer

thanks for the ping


29 posted on 08/18/2004 1:35:30 PM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: FL_engineer

THANK YOU, Sir!


30 posted on 09/04/2004 10:45:37 AM PDT by Capn DOC
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