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Kerry's fellow 'Swiftees' dispute his Purple Hearts
The Washington Times ^ | 8/18/2004 | O'Neill & Corsi

Posted on 08/18/2004 6:56:52 AM PDT by kellynla

First of three excerpts

In the history of Swift Boats in Vietnam, all military personnel served a tour of duty of at least one year unless seriously wounded. Among the few exceptions was John Kerry, who requested to leave Vietnam in 1969 after four months, citing a regulation that permitted release of personnel with three Purple Hearts. Kerry, now the four-term senator from Massachusetts and the Democratic presidential nominee, is also the only known "Swiftee" who received the Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound. None of Kerry's three Purple Hearts was for serious injuries. They were minor scratches, resulting in no lost duty time. Each of these decorations is controversial, with considerable evidence (and in two cases, incontrovertible and conclusive evidence) that the injuries were caused by his own hand and not the result of hostile fire.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: kerry; kerrylied; purplehearts; swiftboatveterans
Kerry has about as much credibility as a screen door on a submarine!
1 posted on 08/18/2004 6:56:56 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

2 posted on 08/18/2004 6:58:46 AM PDT by The G Man (This election is a choice between a War on Terror and a Negotiation with Terror.)
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To: The G Man

Perfect! LOL!


3 posted on 08/18/2004 7:00:31 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: The G Man

What??? The NY Slimes printed this???? Kerry the lie-master is in trouble now.


4 posted on 08/18/2004 7:02:09 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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To: The G Man

5 posted on 08/18/2004 7:03:25 AM PDT by egf
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To: kellynla

The public should demand the release of Kerry's military records. This demand should be constant and consistent until the records are released.


6 posted on 08/18/2004 7:05:55 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush!)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

"What??? The NY Slimes printed this???? Kerry the lie-master is in trouble now."

Sorry, but not in our life-times. This is from the Washington Times. If the N.Y. Times ever prints this, or its equivalent, I'll eat the Sunday edition...LOL

-Toonces


7 posted on 08/18/2004 7:07:38 AM PDT by Toonces T. Cat (The Token Republican in Deep South Texas...)
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To: Admin Moderator

Would you correct the spelling of 'Swiftees' in the title for me. Thanx


8 posted on 08/18/2004 7:11:00 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla

4 months + 0 stitches + 0 days in the hospital + 0 surgeries + 3 purple hearts = FRAUD.


9 posted on 08/18/2004 7:14:36 AM PDT by vigilo
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To: kellynla


Kerry Lies

War Criminal or War Hero,
See both you cannot be.
You claimed you burned a village,
Sounds like a crime to me.
Cambodia in Sixty-Eight,
You say that you were there.
You said Nixon said you weren’t,
Just why would Nixon care?
He wasn’t even president,
Till Nineteen Sixty-Nine.
But details never bother you,
Bold lies do suit you fine.
Three Purple Hearts for paper cuts,
A Bronze and Silver Star.
Then home you came, threw them away,
But look now, there they are.
You testified with still more lies,
About brave fighting men.
The things you claimed that they did,
Just aren’t true now or then.
So tell us please John Kerry,
Which lie we should believe.
Oh what a tangled web you weave,
You practice to deceive.

Conspiracy Guy aka DIF 8/10/2004
Photo by MeekOneGOP

10 posted on 08/18/2004 7:15:20 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: The G Man

With all that has been written and all that has been said it is almost impossible in my mind to believe Kerry over all those other honorable veterans all the way up the chain of command. Something is terribly wrong here. If John Kerry doesn't release his records then he looks guiltier each and every day. What is HE hiding?????

These men have a lot to lose with this book. Why would they bring down this kind of attacks on their personal lives if they didn't know what they say is the truth? There is no way I can believe they are doing it for political purposes EXCEPT for the fact they dont' believe kerry is honorable or has the character to lead this great country.

If I were a vet during that time I would approach Kerry (respectfully of course) and ask him to tell me to my face, in front of my wife and my grown children and in front of the world that I raped, cut off ears, murdered and killed animals of innocent people.

I would ask if he saw me do that.
I would ask if he knew my name?
I would ask him if he has proof that I personally did any of that?
I would ask him to accuse me once more only this time to my face and in front of my wife, and my grown children.
I would ask him to pinpoint every detail of the things he is accusing me of.
I would then stand up in front of everyone and denounce his accusations.
I would then demand kerry take back the lies he said about me as my wife and grown children stand by my side.
I would then ask questions of him and what he did in the war.

It was a terrible thing for kerry to come back and say those awful, horrid things about his brothers as he calls them. To accuse them of such atrocities is unforgiveable. Why didn't he stop them?
Why didn't he report them?
Why did he wait to come back and go before the committee?
Why did he associate himself with Jane Fonda and that ilk?

John Kerry has a lot of questions to answer. When you accuse your fellow soldiers of such atrocities then you should be able to prove what they did and you should be able to face them one on one and stand your ground.

God bless the Vietnam Vets. So many died in that war and so many came home lame and hated. John Kerry should get down on his knees and beg their forgiveness for the horrors he said they did. It only aided and abetted the enemy and that in my mind is TREASON.


11 posted on 08/18/2004 7:16:04 AM PDT by cubreporter (-I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

No, it's the WASHINGTON TIMES.


12 posted on 08/18/2004 7:17:37 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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To: The G Man

13 posted on 08/18/2004 7:20:59 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Conspiracy Guy

GREAT poem.


14 posted on 08/18/2004 7:21:08 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Savage Beast

Yes, Kerry should release his military and medical records.


15 posted on 08/18/2004 7:21:56 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: egf

I'd buy band-aids like that!


16 posted on 08/18/2004 7:23:10 AM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http:\\www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: kellynla
From Nealz Nuze today...

THE POODLE CAUGHT IN ANOTHER LIE

Fresh off his 'Christmas in Cambodia' fairy tale, The Poodle has been caught in another whopper, this time regarding one of his Purple Hearts. This is separate from the questions surrounding his being awarded the Purple Heart in the first place.

It looks like Kerry has contradicted himself in his own diary. In Douglas Brinkley's "Tour of Duty," which is Kerry's official, approved war biography, The Poodle writes an entry after a mission. In that entry he says that after several missions he has not yet taken any enemy fire. Ok .. big deal. Big whoop, right? Sorry .. but actually this is a big deal.

The problem here is that this particular entry in Kerry's diary was made concerning the mission which followed that mission where he earned his first Purple Heart. Now .. think this one through. Kerry goes on a mission and earns a Purple Heart. Then, after his next mission, Kerry writes in his diary that he has not yet experienced any enemy fire. Tell me .. if Kerry had not yet experienced enemy fire then how did he earn a Purple Heart?

Again, just as with Swift Boat Veterans for Truth allegations, somebody is lying. Is it The Poodle, who has now been caught in yet another lie, or those who have nothing to gain by pointing out the inconsistencies?

Shouldn't the media be taking a look at this? That's right...I forgot. The media is so pro-Kerry they will never do anything to damage his chances in the presidential election. They really need to concentrate on figuring out whether or not George Bush showed up for guard service.

17 posted on 08/18/2004 7:26:10 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Thanks. Ever see this one?

First Down Kerry




This is how I flew above, the jungles there in Nam.
I held the skid and fired my gun, bam bam bam bam bam.
We approached the landing zone, I was the first man down.
“First Down Kerry”, I was called, Air Cav had come to town.
I designed the Huey, the Cobra, the Jolly Green.
Still I went to fight VC, I was a lean machine.
Swift boats, choppers, bombers too, ah yes I did it all.
For four months I was busy, but still I took the call.
I served with honor, brave, and true, saved so many men.
Viet Nam is safer now, I would go back again.

Conspiracy Guy aka DIF 8/5/2004

18 posted on 08/18/2004 7:28:30 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: kellynla

Fixed. Thanks.


19 posted on 08/18/2004 7:29:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: kellynla
When Kerry was dispatched to go to An Thoi with Lt. Tedd Peck (who would retire as a Navy captain), Peck told him: "Kerry, follow me no closer than a thousand yards. If you get any closer, I'll teach you what a real Purple Heart is."

BWAWAWAWAWA! Kerry tried to claim credit for Peck's battles on PCF94. After Peck nailed them, once again, the story disappeared from Kerry's website.

20 posted on 08/18/2004 7:30:09 AM PDT by hobson
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To: Toonces T. Cat

Wondering if Teresa is ready to dump the candidate yet? After their screaming fight the other night, have they gotten back together yet? Anybody know? Maybe she is discovering what John ONeil and the other Swiftees already knew.


21 posted on 08/18/2004 7:31:26 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot
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To: kellynla

"The doctor's account
Kerry somehow "gamed the system" nearly three months later to obtain the Purple Heart that Hibbard had denied. How he obtained the award is unknown, since his continued refusal to execute Standard Form 180 means that whatever other documents exist are known only to Kerry, the Department of Defense and God."


Doug Brinkley has rotten egg all over his face. He needs to hold a "press" conference and explain how he was seduced by this snake.

I just saw on Fox News, of all people, who said when the ad first ran it was not a big deal, wee willie Kristol major league supporter of Johnny McCain that JFKerry and his campaign need these "CREDIBLE" Swift Vets to GO AWAY!!!!


22 posted on 08/18/2004 7:35:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I'm telling you, when I read the paperwork on the first PH and I saw where it took Ketchup almost three months to get someone to "sign off" on the medal after Hibbard had initially denied his "request", I knew that there was something fishy about it!


23 posted on 08/18/2004 7:41:57 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla
*bump*

O'Neill is not mincing words here. Kerry's PH's were improvidently granted, period, based on Kerry's fabrications at the time -- and the proof is incontrovertible.

24 posted on 08/18/2004 7:44:09 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: kellynla

Last time I looked at the documentation on Kerry's website, all three PH commendations were there in PDF format. All signed on the same date, all signed by "Lehman", who would not be secretary of the Navy for years in the future- Lehman had nothing to do with the Navy in 1969, iirc.

Odd little things, records.


25 posted on 08/18/2004 7:44:24 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: The G Man
Hallelujah! Finally a graphic that fits the tale spun by that master story-teller.
John Kerry...NOT Francis Ford Coppola
26 posted on 08/18/2004 7:45:47 AM PDT by VOA
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To: kellynla
I agree, one has to wonder how he pulled off this medal collection scam.

We are not talking about "sanity" here, this is beyond the bizarre. Amazing how easily so many people are seduce by con artists.
27 posted on 08/18/2004 7:46:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: DBrow
Odd little things, records

And if we can ever get the Navy medical records,
I believe they will put a fork in the turkey.
He's done!
28 posted on 08/18/2004 7:54:32 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Just mythoughts
I agree, one has to wonder how he pulled off this medal collection scam

You'd be surprised what someone can get accomplished at the Officer's Club after a few rounds...
29 posted on 08/18/2004 7:59:25 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla

I'm beginning to think that the Swift Boat Officers and Sailors were happy that regulation was there so that it could get this idiot Hanoi john away from them. I'm not a combat veteran but I am an U.S. Air Force veteran of seven and a half years in the seventies. I didn't live through what you guys did and I can only imagine what it feels like to have someone in your outfit that could get you killed just because you couldn't trust him to back you up. God bless all our people in uniform past, present, and future.


30 posted on 08/18/2004 8:01:09 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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To: kellynla

"You'd be surprised what someone can get accomplished at the Officer's Club after a few rounds..."


You are correct, surprised is a good description, however, to have the mind to lay the foundation to become president, is not a common to 99.9% of the population.

JFKerry has not been able to pull this off alllll by himself, he has had lots of help.

JFKerry is speaking to Vets on Fox News.


31 posted on 08/18/2004 8:04:07 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: egf
Years ago, Curad (I think it was) came out with adhesive bandages like that. They called them "Battle Ribbons" and they were very popular for a while.

I remember hearing them advertised on the Arthur Godfrey radio show. (Reveals my age, I know!)

32 posted on 08/18/2004 8:19:09 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: kellynla

Wouldn't it be something if Kerry's military records were "leaked" out of the Pentagon. Rummy and/or his lieutenants must know the contents of them by now, right?


33 posted on 08/18/2004 8:19:26 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: kellynla

bump


34 posted on 08/18/2004 8:22:13 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: JOE43270
I'm beginning to think that the Swift Boat Officers and Sailors were happy that regulation was there so that it could get this idiot Hanoi john away from them.

The Navy screwed up royally, Kerry should have been shipped out of there...I know we didn't have that kind of problem in the Marines when I was in the bush in Nam. If we had a screwup, we choppered him out A.S.A.P.!!!

Giving this clown 3 PH's, a Silver & Bronze Star is a slap in the face to all those honorable and brave G.I.'s who legitimately earned them!
35 posted on 08/18/2004 8:22:20 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


36 posted on 08/18/2004 8:25:01 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: kellynla

I really understand why Kerry is absent from so many Senate hearings.... He feels guilty when he is in the same room with a real veteran.


37 posted on 08/18/2004 8:43:48 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: kellynla

The American people better listen to you guys that are combat veterans. Otherwise I'm afraid of what thing will happen. Hanoi john will give us and everything that is American away. Thank you Kellynla, you are farther up the veterans ladder than I. God Bless all our people in unform past, present, and future.


38 posted on 08/18/2004 9:02:38 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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To: Phantom Lord

39 posted on 08/18/2004 10:22:57 AM PDT by Darth Reagan (your lazy butts are in this too)
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To: JOE43270; All
Well, Joe, if I ever run into any of these liberal clowns, Kerry, Kennedy, Michael Moron et al, I will read them the "riot act"!!!

And it is up to all FReepers to educate their family and friends of exactly what Kerry is all about!

He disgraced the uniform he wore and he betrayed his fellow Viet Nam veterans and their families with his lies and his antiwar protests!

Semper Fi,
Kelly
40 posted on 08/18/2004 10:26:33 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Darth Reagan

Registered better watch his back.


41 posted on 08/18/2004 1:18:14 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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