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Libertarian Press Release Regarding Troop Realignment
August 17, 2004 | Libertarian Party

Posted on 08/18/2004 7:14:45 AM PDT by Undertow

WASHINGTON, DC -- President Bush's plan for a massive realignment of U.S. troops is half right, says Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik: All U.S. forces should be re-deployed -- right back to the United States.

"Bush wants to remove U.S. troops from places where they don't belong, then put them in other places where they don't belong," says Badnarik. "It's time to bring all of our men and women home and start using them for defensive purposes only."

In a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Monday in Cincinnati, Bush announced that in order to make the military more agile in the war on terrorism, approximately 70,000 U.S. troops would be shifted from Cold War-era bases in Europe and Asia. Some would be stationed in the United States, while others would be sent to the Middle East, the former Soviet republics and South Asia.

But moving more U.S. troops into the Middle East and volatile central Asian nations may provoke more terrorism than it prevents, Libertarians say.

"The U.S. military presence in the Middle East has been used as a justification for several terrorist attacks, including the September 11 tragedy," Badnarik said.

"How long can politicians pretend to be surprised when terrorist threats turn into bloody reality? How many more innocent Americans have to lose their lives before U.S. policy makers come to their senses and stop interfering in other nations' affairs?"

While removing U.S. troops from Germany 15 years after the collapse of the Soviet threat is a positive development, putting them in harm's way elsewhere makes no sense, Badnarik says.

"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says the goal of Bush's plan is to create more 'deployment locations' for U.S. troops," he notes. "But what politicians call deployment locations are actually wars waiting to happen.

"In recent history, presidents have deployed our troops to locations like Vietnam, Lebanon, Bosnia, Somalia and Iraq, and each time Americans died needlessly. The lesson is that politicians can't be trusted to distinguish between national defense and military adventurism.

"Bush's plan is nothing more than more military adventurism, and it's only a matter of time before innocent Americans pay the price -- again."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: badnarik; bongbrigade; libertarianparty; libertarians; lp

1 posted on 08/18/2004 7:14:45 AM PDT by Undertow
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To: Undertow

Wonder if this is ok with the seeds n stems division of the L party?


2 posted on 08/18/2004 7:16:00 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Undertow
"Bush wants to remove U.S. troops from places where they don't belong, then put them in other places where they don't belong," says Badnarik. "It's time to bring all of our men and women home and start using them for defensive purposes only."

Yea...Lets fight them terrorists on OUR shores!!! Go Badnarik!!!!!!! WHoo hoo!!!!1

*cough*

3 posted on 08/18/2004 7:17:39 AM PDT by smith288 (Verry Leftwards '04)
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To: Undertow

Uh, libertarian party? The best defense is a good offense.


4 posted on 08/18/2004 7:18:33 AM PDT by ellery (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Undertow

"U.S. forces should be re-deployed -- right back to the United States"

I agree 100%


AMERICANS FIRST


5 posted on 08/18/2004 7:18:39 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Undertow
But moving more U.S. troops into the Middle East and volatile central Asian nations may provoke more terrorism than it prevents, Libertarians say

Huh is this michael moore or Michael Badnarik.

Both the same, IMO.

6 posted on 08/18/2004 7:18:51 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: mgc1122
Wonder if this is ok with the seeds n stems division of the L party?

There is no division; that is their main agenda.

7 posted on 08/18/2004 7:19:57 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Undertow

"It's time to bring all of our men and women home and start using them for defensive purposes only."

As long as they close the border first when they get here. Next they can round up all the illegal immigrants already here.

But that isn't what he wants is it?


8 posted on 08/18/2004 7:21:08 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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To: Undertow
The public might take this guy more seriously if he were to pay $249 for the right to call himself Dr. like his VP candidate did.
9 posted on 08/18/2004 7:22:55 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Undertow
"How long can politicians pretend to be surprised when terrorist threats turn into bloody reality? How many more innocent Americans have to lose their lives before U.S. policy makers come to their senses and stop interfering in other nations' affairs?"

The 9/11 plot was formulated, researched, planned out in many nations; Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, Germany, England, Spain, and the U.S.

When other nations support terrorists, provide them money, training, transportation, communication, etc so they can plot and pull off an attack on American soil, then it's our duty to "interfere in their affairs."

War is not longer just 1 or 2 nations against others... this is world-wide. So we'll stick our noses anywhere we must to keep our people safe.

George Bush: Saving your ass... like it or not!

10 posted on 08/18/2004 7:23:52 AM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
But that isn't what he wants is it?Nope. The LP is for OPEN BORDERS!
11 posted on 08/18/2004 7:23:54 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Undertow
"It's time to bring all of our men and women home and start using them for defensive purposes only."

That plan guarantees that we'll eventually need them for defensive purposes - in the streets of Los Angeles.

I have great affinity for the Libertarian positions on many issues, but some of them are completely clueless on conducting foreign policy.

12 posted on 08/18/2004 7:25:36 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Undertow

13 posted on 08/18/2004 7:27:03 AM PDT by Petronski (First algore invented everything, then Kerry smuggled it to Cambodia.)
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To: Undertow
The Libertarians have fallen victim to the same fallacy as the liberals. The enemy isn't trying to kill us because they're mad at our interference in foreign affairs. They're trying to kill us because we refuse to acknowledge that there is one God and that Mohammed is his prophet. A religious motivation is so alien to the leftist, and sadly to the Libertarian, worldview, that they assume that all this must really be about environmentalism or wealth imbalance or hatred of President Bush or some other "real" cause.
14 posted on 08/18/2004 7:29:13 AM PDT by SedVictaCatoni
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To: theDentist

I'd prefer our troops at home as well, but's more xenophobic than we, the world power, should be. Rogue nations are less impressed when all our troops and carriers are nowhere in their vicinty than when they're only a few day's sail away.


15 posted on 08/18/2004 7:31:47 AM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: mgc1122
the seeds n stems division

As a liberservative, or is it a conservberal, I find that very funny, I truly lol'ed.

16 posted on 08/18/2004 7:35:02 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: Undertow

We'd ahve to have all the troops here if he was in charge, because they'd throw the borders open to everyone and anyone.

We'd need the military in our cities and towns.

(The open border policy of the Libertarian Party is just one of the reasons I think they have gone off the deep end and diminished what could have been a true 3rd party in America, and one of the reasons I can no longer support them)


17 posted on 08/18/2004 7:37:22 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: eyespysomething
The open border policy of the Libertarian Party is just one of the reasons I think they have gone off the deep end and diminished what could have been a true 3rd party in America, and one of the reasons I can no longer support them.

"Open borders" would be a good policy if the borders enclosed something like a libertarian nation. What kills me about groups like the LP is that they haven't a sense of priorities.

18 posted on 08/18/2004 7:43:13 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Undertow
When your neighbors house is on fire, you go put out that fire before your own house burns down. You can make appoligies to your neighbor later and any restoration if it is needed.

The LP would rather stand around pointing at the flames licking at our shores saying, "Ooooh... pretty!"

Their anti-war stance is one of the major black marks against the LP in this libertarians viewpoint.

20 posted on 08/18/2004 7:50:00 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: smith288

Oddly, one of the best things we could do to help prevent terrorism in the US is to restore full force to the Second Amendment and use the citizen militia to help patrol our borders.


21 posted on 08/18/2004 7:51:14 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: eyespysomething
We'd need the military in our cities and towns.

Imagine 80 million law abiding gun owners with their full Second Amendment Rights, instead of our hamstrung 2A right now. 80 million is a lot of extra crime preventors out running around.

22 posted on 08/18/2004 7:54:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Yes, you are correct, sorry, early morning fog.

Oh wait, its not early morning...just not thinking right now.


23 posted on 08/18/2004 7:57:12 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: eyespysomething

As long as Bush doesn't screw gun owners, like his father made the mistake of doing, he's got my vote this fall. I just wish he was more pro-gun rights than he is.


24 posted on 08/18/2004 8:01:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Undertow
Who cares what the Libertarian pary thinks?
Voters sure don't!
25 posted on 08/18/2004 8:11:52 AM PDT by apackof2 (Damn the torpedos! Full speed ahead!)
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To: Undertow

Hmm...if the sole purpose of a military is to control the homeland (it might start OUT as "defense", but we're talking government control here), we're talking a whole new and awful way of life. If the Lefty-tarians want independence from the government, this is NOT the way to get it. What lunatics!


26 posted on 08/18/2004 10:15:57 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: cinFLA
The LP is for OPEN BORDERS!

You must not be a big fan of Asa Hutchinson.

27 posted on 08/18/2004 10:27:16 AM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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