Posted on 08/18/2004 7:45:57 AM PDT by kattracks
Sadr has already been entrenched for months. He will probably continue to use these 'fake truces' until our election. If Kerry gets elected, Sadr has a more favorable negotiating position.
So they'll leave one mosque in favor of another? (Where they can continue to kill Iraqis and Americans)...or maybe they can break down to smaller units and go back to safe houses, to continue guerilla ops later. Very very skeptical about this. There is no honor among thieves. There is no honor among islamists.
So that means we get to fight him somewhere else in another holy place in another 4 months. As soon as he leaves that place they should kill him.
Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has accepted a peace plan drafted by the Iraqi National Conference, which would include laying down arms and withdrawing his militia from a holy shrine in the city of Najaf, a delegate told the conference Wednesday.
U.S. Army soldiers fire an anti-tank rocket at an insurgent position near the cemetery in Najaf, Iraq, Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2004. Iraq's National Conference refused Wednesday to send a second delegation to the holy city of Najaf to negotiate an end to fighting between U.S. troops and loyalists of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, a day after he rebuffed their demand for a meeting. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)
A U.S. soldier takes aim down a street at an Iraqi man riding a motorcycle during a firefight in eastern Baghdad's Shi'ite suburb al-Sadr City, August Photo by Pool/Reuters
U.S. Army soldiers run through a school courtyard during a gun battle with insurgent snipers near the cemetery in Najaf, Iraq, Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2004. Iraq's National Conference refused Wednesday to send a second delegation to the holy city of Najaf to negotiate an end to fighting between U.S. troops and loyalists of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, a day after he rebuffed their demand for a meeting. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)
Smoke and fire spread through a building under fire from U.S. forces near the cemetery in Najaf, Iraq, Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2004. Iraq's National Conference refused Wednesday to send a second delegation to the holy city of Najaf to negotiate an end to fighting between U.S. troops and loyalists of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, a day after he rebuffed their demand for a meeting. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)
A group of handcuffed Iraqi detainees sit on the ground while being watched by the U.S. Army's 1st Cavalry Division soldiers after being arrested for driving a stolen ambulance and testing positive for explosives on their hands in eastern Baghdad's Shi'ite suburb al-Sadr City, August 18, 2004. U.S. tanks entered Baghdad's Shi'ite sprawling Sadr City slum on Wednesday and took positions in the main streets. U.S. tanks moved into the district of at least 2.5 million people early in the day to keep control of the fighters of the al-Mahdi Army in its stronghold. REUTERS/David P. Gilkey/Pool
Mahdi army fighters loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr hoist their weapons as violence continues in the al-Sadr stronghold of Sadr city neighbourhood in Baghdad, Iraq Wednesday Aug. 18, 2004. Iraq's National Conference refused Wednesday to send a second delegation to the holy city of Najaf to negotiate an end to fighting between U.S. troops and loyalists of al-Sadr, a day after he rebuffed their demand for a meeting. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)
U.S. Army soldiers of the1st Cavalry Division run across a street during a firefight in eastern Baghdad's Shi'ite suburb al-Sadr City, August 18, 2004. U.S. tanks entered Baghdad's Shi'ite sprawling Sadr City slum on Wednesday and took positions in the main streets. U.S. tanks moved into the district of at least 2.5 million people early in the day to keep control of the fighters of al-Mahdi Army in its stronghold. REUTERS/David P. Gilkey/POOL
U.S. Army soldiers take cover during a gun battle with insurgent snipers near the cemetery in Najaf, Iraq, Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2004. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)
Mahdi army fighters loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr prepare to launch a mortar attack as violence continues in the Sadr stronghold of Sadr city neighborhood in Baghdad, Iraq Wednesday Aug. 18, 2004. (AP Photo/Str)
Well, they flushed him out without a shot being fired. From a civil affairs POV, that's a good thing.
Now, we can track his movements...
National convention sources in Baghdad report radical Shiite rebel Sadr letter agreeing to lay down arms and evacuate Imam Ali Mosque. Confirmation awaited from Najef where Sadr and militiamen besieged by US and Iraqi forces in shrine. Earlier, Iraqi defense minister Shaalan visited troops in embattled city and said final offensive against Sadr only hours away.
His Tehran handlers understand his image will disappear rather quickly once he's dead. Much for upsetting for the long haul to have him kicking back, Mandela style, in some prison. And since the Tehran's goal is to kick us out and take over, I'd say it's a good call. We need to kill him.
This means nothing to Al Sadr, who is a liar and murderer.
I continue to be astonished at this low level of discussion re: Sadr. Half the posts insist we are stupid becuause we, the USA, don't kill him, blow up the shrine, nuke Najaf, etc.
Don't we Freepers understand that this is Iraq, we have given them back sovereignty and apparently they prefer negotiated solutions to having us blow up their heritage?
Personally I think the BS with Sadr has gone way past the point where something violent needs to done to him (e.g. killed or jailed), but I'm not the PM of Iraq and neither is GWB.
This weird Kabuki dance Middle Easterners do is so illogical by our standards, yet if our goal is a democratic Iraq we need to let them handle their own countrymen.
Expect he will tuck tail but his associates and imported gunmen will not go down easy.
That makes me really worry about the conditions that were offered.
Al Sadr will leave the mosque and promptly be arrested for the murder of the Iman last year. All insurgents from out of country will be jailed, questioned and eventually repatriated to their country of origin.
When it is made known that Iran played a big part in this, the US will begin to make plans.
This just pure BS. Now his so call army of thugs will go free to go kill our soldier at some other place and time.
I was hoping we would destroy all of them. I was going to post what I wrote below but it seems like it is not going to happen now.
I've lost count..Would that be 3# cease fire or #4?
Al-Sadr will claim by Sunday afternoon that the terms of the agreement (doesn't matter what they are) have been broken allowing him to do whatever he wants. It is like Saddam playing tag with the French and UN (of course, they were very well paid to play) where there was no end to anything. We will eventually have to knock down his whore house of a mosque, sucker the Iranians into doing something they can't back up and spend election day in Teheran.
Kill them all.
Seems the powers that be have the gonads of a flea when it comes to what others think, and ones of an elephant when it comes to getting our solders killed just so we don't kill some POS Muslim or damage some "Holy"(actually un-holy in my book) shrine.
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