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Carve up Texas into 5 States? WSJ: Austin Powers
Wall Street Journal ^ | Aug 19, 2004 | VASAN KESAVAN and MICHAEL STOKES PAULSEN

Posted on 08/19/2004 2:37:00 AM PDT by The Raven

What would you say if we told you we have a way to add as many as eight new Republican senators to Congress. We could also add eight right-leaning votes to the electoral college? It's simple, it's fun, and it's perfectly constitutional: Texas should divide itself into five states.

Art. IV, Sec. 3 of the U.S. Constitution says that new states may be created out of existing ones, but only with the consent of "the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

...Congress need not take any action at all today: It granted its consent to Texas's potential subdivision 159 years ago...signed into law by President John Tyler...:

New States, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution.

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..So all that remains is for Texas to say "Yes" and act to divide itself into five...

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The Constitution's requirement that each state have equal representation in the U.S. Senate means that huge Texas -- the nation's second largest state in both people and land -- has the same representation in the Senate as puny Vermont.

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So what are y'all waiting for? ... For the good of America, for the good of Austin, for the good of the GOP, now's the time for Texas to become five Texy-Tots. Yee-haw!

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TOPICS: Editorial; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: fiveamericas; fivetexases; fourtexases; texas
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1 posted on 08/19/2004 2:37:00 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
Some parts of Texas are liberal firstly.

and you'll divide this state up only after it becomes a country!

From my cold dead hands you, you... I'll think of something.... you... divider!!

2 posted on 08/19/2004 2:39:45 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: MeekOneGOP; Humidston; Action-America

TEXAS PING!


3 posted on 08/19/2004 2:40:14 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL

Anti Texite?


4 posted on 08/19/2004 2:41:03 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: The Raven

Thats only for subscribers darn it, those yankee's


5 posted on 08/19/2004 2:41:16 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: leadpenny
Whats a Texite?

One of the really bad things about that idea is..um..

What do we name the other 4 'states'??

6 posted on 08/19/2004 2:42:16 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: The Raven

Good idea. Properly divided, California could end up with 2 Democrat Senators from West California (a narrow strip of coastal land includling LA and SF) plus 4 Republican Senators from two new states of Northern California and Southern California.


7 posted on 08/19/2004 2:43:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: The Raven
I'd rather see Texas remove itself from the Union than see it carved up into different states. If we are an independent nation then perhaps we could protect our borders from the flood of humanity that is coming across now.

What is with the fact that the federal government REFUSES to do anything when they KNOW that known terrorists are coming and going at will over the border?

8 posted on 08/19/2004 2:43:59 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: GeronL

As in Seinfeld - anti dentite.


9 posted on 08/19/2004 2:44:07 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: The Raven
"New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution..."

Which means under the provisions of Article IV. Admission of new states requires the approval of both houses of Congress.

10 posted on 08/19/2004 2:44:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: leadpenny
OH.

OK

11 posted on 08/19/2004 2:44:53 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: The Raven

...and right after THAT, California would do the same. Let's not go there.


12 posted on 08/19/2004 2:45:19 AM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: Jim Robinson
well. I'm not as emotionally tied to California.

How about we divide up Alaska?? Into 4 parts... so Texas can be the biggest state again?

13 posted on 08/19/2004 2:47:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: RetSignman

Northern Alaska can be renamed Utopia. Central Alaska can be renamed Leninland, East Alaska can be renamed Liberalvia and Southern Alaska where most people are, can be Alaska.


14 posted on 08/19/2004 2:48:36 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL

Hmmmm... can we divide Massachusetts?


15 posted on 08/19/2004 2:48:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: GeronL

North and South Dakota. There could be a North and South Michigan.


16 posted on 08/19/2004 2:51:01 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jim Robinson
Hmmmm... can we divide Massachusetts?

If you do it'll solve that problem of what to do with all those Kennedy's wandering around without an office to run for.

17 posted on 08/19/2004 2:51:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ted Kennedy is the Mass and Barney Frank is the achusetts


18 posted on 08/19/2004 2:52:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well, maybe we can carve off a chunk and donate it to Russia or Cuba??


19 posted on 08/19/2004 2:53:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: leadpenny

North and South Nebraska, North and South Kansas, East and West South Dakota, East and West North Dakota, East, Central and West Montana. Las Vegas becomes a City-State.


20 posted on 08/19/2004 2:53:41 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, maybe we can carve off a chunk and donate it to Russia or Cuba??

And what do you have against Russia and Cuba?

21 posted on 08/19/2004 2:54:09 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

>>Which means under the provisions of Article IV. Admission of new states requires the approval of both houses of Congress.

Yes...and it's already been done (from above):


"...Congress need not take any action at all today: It granted its consent to Texas's potential subdivision 159 years ago...signed into law by President John Tyler"


22 posted on 08/19/2004 2:54:18 AM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nah, cut Cal in half right there at Oxnard straight across to Needles.

Give Amerillo to Oklahoma and slice Tex from Witchita Falls to Corpus Christie.

Then can we work on Floriduh??


23 posted on 08/19/2004 2:54:57 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Kerry couldn't have gone to Sears in Cambodia Christmas day! They were closed!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I think I just created 16 new Senators in post #20


24 posted on 08/19/2004 2:55:06 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: The Raven

Actually Texas used to be much bigger. We used to have parts of Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado? or something like that...


25 posted on 08/19/2004 2:56:18 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL

Can we give Taxachhusettes to Canada??


26 posted on 08/19/2004 2:57:30 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Kerry couldn't have gone to Sears in Cambodia Christmas day! They were closed!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, maybe we can carve off a chunk and donate it to Russia or Cuba??

I have an idea I want to send to the President. Its a plan that would allow the sanctions on Cuba to be dropped, even though I have opposed that.

We'll drop the sanctions if we can have a Citizens Exchange Program. They send us pro-democracy dissidents and we send them our leftists...

I thikn its a great idea.

27 posted on 08/19/2004 2:58:08 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hmmmm... can we divide Massachusetts?

Even better, let's just subtract it.

28 posted on 08/19/2004 2:58:41 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: JoeSixPack1

I call it MassaTaxes. I don't think Canada would want it.


29 posted on 08/19/2004 2:58:59 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL

That's the best idea I've heard all night.


30 posted on 08/19/2004 2:59:52 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: metesky

And that's the second best.


31 posted on 08/19/2004 3:00:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Hmmmm... can we divide Massachusetts?

Let's see now.....

With a little imagination....Presto---chango


32 posted on 08/19/2004 3:04:09 AM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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To: All

How do we get all those new stars on the flag?


33 posted on 08/19/2004 3:05:38 AM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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To: The Raven
How many counties is that?? I mean... er.. states..lol.. do we still get 2 Senators? I mean Loving County, TX has like 94 people... A US Rep and 2 Senators would be a huge income boost for them.
I am tired... going to sleep..

G'Night my fellow.. Nightly Morpin Poster Pingers

34 posted on 08/19/2004 3:09:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL

>>would be a huge income boost for them.

ROFL !!!!


35 posted on 08/19/2004 3:11:10 AM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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To: The Raven
Art. IV, Sec. 3 of the U.S. Constitution says that new states may be created out of existing ones, but only with the consent of "the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

I seem to recall that West Virginia was created from Virginia during the Civil War, presumably without Virginia's consent.

36 posted on 08/19/2004 3:17:24 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

>>I seem to recall that West Virginia was created from Virginia during the Civil War, presumably without Virginia's consent

And then West VA created Sen. Byrd and the rest is history.


37 posted on 08/19/2004 3:27:33 AM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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To: The Raven

Texas ping.


38 posted on 08/19/2004 3:35:00 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Shut up and sing. I don't care what you think.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Texas ping........hell y'all won't be as big as GA.......lol


39 posted on 08/19/2004 3:36:01 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Shut up and sing. I don't care what you think.)
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To: The Raven

Yes, West Virginia was created by Union sympathizers. And we've been paying for it ever since.


40 posted on 08/19/2004 3:39:34 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (If Bush is such a dummy, how come all of his enemies look like idiots?)
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To: The Raven
Yes...and it's already been done (from above)...

I read it. I also read the resolution on the annexation of Texas as well as the resolution admitting Texas as a state. And in the annexation resolution it clearly states that admission of the new states eould be under the provisions of the Federal Constitution, which requires a majority vote in both houses of Congress to admit a new state. Texas can split itself into 4 pieces or 400 pieces and the split off parts do not become states unless Congress approves it.

41 posted on 08/19/2004 3:44:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: wideminded
I seem to recall that West Virginia was created from Virginia during the Civil War, presumably without Virginia's consent.

West Virginia was split off with the approval of a part of the Virginia legislature that did not support the southern rebellion and which remained loyal to the Union. The rest of the Virginia legislature could have participated in the vote but they were of revolting.

42 posted on 08/19/2004 3:46:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: The Raven

Its already divided into WET and DRY.


43 posted on 08/19/2004 4:00:34 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: The Raven
Our unoffical motto???... "Don't mess with Texas".

I know this was a joke, but some of us Texans probably don't take kindly to this kind of humor. If anything we'd be better off as our own conservative country. Regards, <><

44 posted on 08/19/2004 4:15:26 AM PDT by catfish1957
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To: MeekOneGOP

Texas ping?


45 posted on 08/19/2004 4:17:46 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: The Raven

I think they'd have to kill most of us first.


46 posted on 08/19/2004 4:19:24 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: GeronL
What do we name the other 4 'states'??

Texas

Texes

Texis

Texos

Texus

If one has a Democrat majority, you could call it Taxes.

47 posted on 08/19/2004 4:24:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Many will kill for socialism, few will die for it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

>>the split off parts do not become states unless Congress approves it.

Then they become counries?


48 posted on 08/19/2004 4:28:58 AM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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To: The Raven
Then they become counries?

No, because they are still a part of the U.S. Their status would be the same as a territory before it became a state. No representation in Congress.

49 posted on 08/19/2004 4:32:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Jim Noble

Nah. It'll be Texas, then East, South, Noth, and West Texas ("...Down in the West Texas town of El Paso..." [singing]....)

The new capitals will be Dallas, Houston, El Paso, and Lufkin


50 posted on 08/19/2004 4:34:38 AM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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