Skip to comments.John O'Neill Will Be On Hannity's Radio Show Today To Discuss Kerry's Comments
Posted on 08/19/2004 12:07:26 PM PDT by pookie18
John O'Neill Will Be On Hannity's Radio Show Todat To Discuss Kerry's Comments
Rassman fell off the boat as Kerry was turning tail? Did I hear that right?
O'Neil: "Rasmussen is lying. The 'shrapnel' is not even from this incident. He claimed to get shrapnel from a water mine when he got it from his own grenade when he threw it into a rice field. Rasmussen's story doesn't work and no one else confirms it. EIGHT other eye witnesses now contradict Rasmussen. The mine went off; Kerry fled, knocking Rasmussen off the boat. There was no enemy fire. After about 5 minutes Kerry came back and Kerry picked-up Rasmussen, who he had thrown into the water to begin with."
So now Kerry is calling Meehan and even the other vets that support him liars since they have all disavowed the story?
O'Neil: "Rasmussen is obviously glad someone pulled him back out of the water, regardless of the circumstances."
... commercial break...
Yes, indeed. Kerry knocked Rassman of his boat, fled, returned when he saw there was no enemy fire and plucked up Rassman while Chenoweth was only 10 yards away from picking him up.
Of course, this will be blacked-out by the drooling lapdog press...
Registered..pinging you here..can you do something with this?..regards..
Sean is not giving O'Neil a chance to answer the W Post allegations this morning. O'Neil has to be given an opportunity to knock down that lie.
Hint: If someone is talking to you about Special Ops in a bar, it is more than likely that they are doing a 'kerry' on you. The guys I know who actually did it, rarely ever talk about it.
I've said that for two weeks. After this election, Richard Nixon will have had his vindication. Ironic that his vindication is gonna be delivered by one of his most hateful critics, John Kerry.
Like that'll help anymore :)
I have been saying this for months and have sent my observations to the media, Congress, SBVFT, and others. Namely, I provide the following:
Did he or didn't he? After reviewing Kerry's service records, as released by him, I find it hard to believe the media have not picked up on the John Lehman connection. It should set off all kinds of alarm bells, especially considering the recent flap over whether he threw his medals away or not.
A very curious question arises over Kerry's multiple Silver (3) and Bronze (2) star citations. Two of the five were signed by John Lehman who was Secretary of the Navy in the Reagan Administration 5 Feb 1981 - 10 Apr 1987. There are three Silver Star citations supplied by Kerry. One was signed by ADM Zumwalt, one by ADM Hyland, and one by Secretary Lehman. The Bronze Star citations were signed by Zumwalt and Lehman. Specifically,
Zumwalt: ADM Zumwalt served as Commander, US Naval Forces Vietnam from Sep 1968-May 1970. The Silver Star citation is more than likely the original citation taken from the award submission. Normally, as part of the nomination form, the nominator must provide a synopsis of the award (citation) that can fit on a single page suitable for framing with the certificate. Zumwalt's citation covered two pages. I suspect that Zumwalt forwarded the award to CINCPAC, ADM Hyland, for the final signature, including the citation. It is worth noting that the requirement to go to CINCPAC applied only to the Silver Star, hence only the Zumwalt and Lehman citations for the Bronze Star, i.e., Zumwalt as the final approving authority and Lehman for the replacement/reissue.
Hyland: CINCPAC probably edited the Zumwalt Silver Star citation to make it fit on to one page and to clean it up a bit to fit the existing format. ADM Hyland was CINCPAC 30 Nov 1967 - 05 Dec 1970
Lehman: Except for the last sentence, the Silver Star citation is the same as Hyland's. What makes this curious is that Secretary Lehman signed the citation at least over 12 and up to 18 years after the events occurred. Kerry served in Vietnam from November 1968 to April 1969. I doubt, in any event, that the final approval authority for Silver Stars had to go to SECNAV for approval. We also have photographic evidence that Kerry had the Silver Star medal pinned on in 1969. Kerry also acknowledges that he received them. My take is that Kerry requested replacement medals and due to the fact that Kerry was no longer an active duty service member, administrative requirements mandated that SECNAV's office had to approve the issue of the replacements once it was verified from official records that Kerry had actually earned them.
The bottom line is that Kerry probably did throw away his medals and then requested replacements in the 1980s. Someone needs to raise this issue with Kerry, i.e., why did Secretary Lehman sign duplicate Bronze and Silver Star citations at least 12 years after you left Vietnam? Kerry needs to release all of his military records including the nomination forms, which will give us the chronology and the approval chain of command.
Kerry's reaction on Good Morning America fits his MO. He wants it both ways. When he discovered that throwing away your medals was politically a negative, he came up with the story about his ribbons and someone else's medals. Kerry realized that he couldn't walk away from the story entirely, especially since he has the medals displayed prominently in his office. However, the fly in the ointment is that we now have the citations, released by him, signed by Lehman. If he indeed requested replacement medals, he has a real problem, i.e., he was telling the truth initially, lied in the 80s, and is lying now.
I recognize that confronting Kerry on his military service is fraught with problems politically, but I believe there are plenty of inconsistencies that need to be made public. His antiwar activities and associations (Fonda, Ramsey Clark, the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, et. al) also need to be exposed fully. The fact that Kerry was a member of the inactive Naval Reserves (1970-2) subject to involuntary recall and could meet with the Communist Vietnamese in Paris (per his sworn Congressional testimony) while our forces were engaged in hostilities is disgraceful. In fact it has recently been learned that Kerry met twice with the Communists in Paris.
Kerry is frozen in a time warp when it comes to his service in Vietnam. His preoccupation with his medals borders on being an obsession. If you check Kerry's released military records, you will notice that Kerry amended his DD214 with a DD215. Among other things, Kerry burnishes his Vietnam Service medal by adding four bronze service stars to reflect various campaigns. This was done in March 2001!!! Why anyone would go through that effort to make some meaningless changes is beyond me. Hundreds of thousands of veterans, including myself, could do it, but beyond self-gratification and ego, what is the point?
23 posted on 08/19/2004 7:25:31 AM EDT by kabar [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 |
Interesting thought. Also ironic is O'Neill's involvement, a reliving of the debates of old, but which Kerry, unwisely, tried to treat as new.
"No man (who will back me up later)left behind..."
I agree with you on that. My son is one of those guys who never talks. It's like pulling teeth. As far as he is concerned, he could have always done "it" better.
We hear more about him from his Commanders!
The CIA doesnt have boats?
CIA men cant drive a boat?
What was the deal here, why did they need a rookie whiner to drive them in, if it happened at all, which I do not believe.
Wouldnt the CIA have some record of such operations??
(partnering with Kerry to stir dissention in Cambodia)
It couldnt still be classified after all this time.
GO VETs, out this poseur wanna be!!
The Kerry people just bailed from Hannity's show on FNC tonight?
Kerry Campaign has bailed on H&C tonight!
Hannity: "Kerry people bailed-out of my show tonight. What are they afraid of??"