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Navy Veteran Van Odell Responds to Kerry
SBVT ^

Posted on 08/19/2004 12:50:51 PM PDT by gilliam

Statement by Navy Veteran Van Odell, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, in Rebuttal to Michael Dobbs, Washington Post, August 19, 2004

A courageous, soft spoken man of the Midwest, Larry Thurlow has a heart bigger than the great plains and a commitment to truth and honesty that is boundless. He is under attack, because John Kerry is feeling the heat of truth at the hands of this honest man and others like him.

The Kerry Campaign is attacking the truthfulness of this man and the Bronze Star he so richly deserves for his actions on March 13, 1969. I was there. I saw what happened.

The mine’s detonation lifted PCF-3 completely out of the water just yards ahead of me. All boats commenced suppression fire in case enemy small arms fire ensued. None did.

All boats came to the aid of PCF-3, except one: John Kerry’s boat. Kerry fled.

Larry Thurlow piloted his boat straight toward the mine-damaged PCF-3 from which thick, black smoke billowed. He jumped aboard and personally led damage control operations that saved the boat and rescue operations that saved the lives of badly wounded men. Larry’s leadership was in the highest traditions of the naval service. His leadership allowed the other men and boats of the mission to exit the river safely.

This “single act of meritorious service” – the chief requirement of the Bronze Star – should be honored, not ridiculed, by the Kerry campaign and its allies in the mainstream media.

To reiterate, only one enemy weapon was deployed that day – the command-detonated submerged mine that disabled PCF-3. Larry Thurlow’s citation contained references to “enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire,” because that was the language chosen by John Kerry who penned the “spot report” on the action that day. There was no “enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire” received that day. John Kerry’s report was fiction – a hoax on the entire chain of command.

Larry Thurlow’s heroism and meritorious service, however, is real. To me Larry is one of the heroes of our country. He is a man who served his country when called and who returned home to be a productive citizen. Larry and men like him are the strong backbone of our society. I am proud to have served with him.


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To: blteague

Good point blteague. Do you think maybe they got on board in the beginning just so they could be part of the excitement of the campaign, or do you think they were promised something in return if he won and never thought about all this stuff coming out? I'm not accusing them of anything, I just don't understand how their stories and opinions of Kerry can be totally opposite than almost every other sailor that knew him.


101 posted on 08/19/2004 3:08:08 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Reagan is King; All

Question: Since Kerry had a new citation made up for his Silver Star in 1986? Is it possible that Kerry or someone else altered Thurlow's Bronze Star citation to fit Kerry's story?

After all, one of Kerry's stooges is Admiral Crowe.


102 posted on 08/19/2004 3:12:50 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Time and again major stories and scandals have failed to penetrate, especially once he gets into details and he said/she said."

Then along came the left, led by Howie Dean, to proclaim the EEEEVEEEEELS of Rush Limbaugh and his vast, conservative talk radio conspiracy and the Republican controlled media (that would include CNN) and swing voters became what OTHER information was available. IMO, it caused them to turn on Rush out of curiosity and surf the web for news more. Hannity already had a diverse ideological listener base because of Fox's H&C.

Even without all that we're talking about easily SEVERAL million people, Vietnamese refugees, Vietnam veterans and their families, who were directly or indirectly injured by Kerry's VVAW antics. Kerry reopening those wounds was a baaaaaaaad idea....for Kerry. The word is getting out.

103 posted on 08/19/2004 3:13:15 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: gilliam
All boats commenced suppression fire in case enemy small arms fire ensued. None did.

OK, this makes sense.

Prairie

104 posted on 08/19/2004 3:13:30 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: blteague
"It is amazing how well prepared these Vets are for the liberal game plan! They seem to know what they're going to do before they do it and are dialed in with perfect responses"

Because GOOD leaders tend to be good tacticians.

105 posted on 08/19/2004 3:16:24 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: gilliam
I read this as report as explaining some of Rassman's comments. His point of view after Kerry dumped him in the drink was about six inches above water level. He was surprised if not shocked by the mine and Kerry's maneuver that dumped him in the water, and he heard a large amount of small arms fire. It is quite possible that he really though some of it was incoming,when in fact it was all outgoing. If so that makes him mistaken, not a liar.
106 posted on 08/19/2004 3:17:34 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: ridesthemiles
"One of Kerry's crew said that they had to turn around to avoid obstructions in the water (maybe like mines!), and that this was SOP."

This doesn't even pass the smell test. At least two other boats went through the same water Kerry would have had to go through to help their wounded buddies, and they didn't have any problem with obstructions. Heck, if that was his worry, Kerry could have just followed in the wake of the other boats.

107 posted on 08/19/2004 3:19:34 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: RottiBiz

I hope O'Neill eats Colmes lunch.


108 posted on 08/19/2004 3:20:23 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: SuziQ
"What's really galling is the statement he made to the Firefighter's Union today. He said he learned 30 years ago in combat that when attacked, you steer your boat right INTO the attack!!"

He also said he still has shrapnel in his leg...I woulda thought that rice would have dissolved by now.

109 posted on 08/19/2004 3:20:52 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: ridesthemiles

And if $$$ starts going abroad for prescription drugs, what does sKerry think will happen to medical drug research bu American drug companies, FGS?!

Prairie


110 posted on 08/19/2004 3:21:50 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: Bob
If kerry weren't the nominee, we never would have heard of the Swiftees.

That's very likely true. So what you're saying is that they're only trying to work against Kerry's being elected, they aren't really trying to help President Bush.

I can accept that, even though anything that detracts from Kerry's campaign will indirectly aid Bush's campaign.

111 posted on 08/19/2004 3:21:50 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: faithincowboys
Question: Since Kerry had a new citation made up for his Silver Star in 1986? Is it possible that Kerry or someone else altered Thurlow's Bronze Star citation to fit Kerry's story?

From what I understand today Thurlow has stated that Kerry wrote up Thurlow's Bronze Star recommendation to match Kerry's story. He stated that there was no enemy small arms fire and that if received his Bronze Star because of that reason then it's fraudulent. I'll try and find the link.

112 posted on 08/19/2004 3:22:59 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Reagan is King

Oh, cool. Unfotunately, that story ain't getting out...YET.


113 posted on 08/19/2004 3:24:45 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: gilliam

On FNC, Brit Hume and Lt. Col. Bill Cowan are talking about Kerry's citations with John Lehman's signature on them.


114 posted on 08/19/2004 3:25:46 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Bob
Actually I just heard O'Neill say that even if the President asked them to stop, they wouldn't. That even if the SwiftBoat efforts hurt the President "that's just too bad, we won't stop because we are going to get the truth out". Are you talking about the actual 527 not being formed until after Kerry had the official nomination? Because the SwiftBoat vets have been organized as a group for several years, what's more SwiftBoat Veterans for the Truth held a news conference in May 2004 which was only carried by C-Span and spiked as a story by the AP but came out publically with their charges against Kerry well in advance of the convention.

Prairie

115 posted on 08/19/2004 3:26:28 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: RottiBiz
"(the Kerry representative backed out)"

Yep, cause Kerry and his campaign staff are going to take a night off, sit around in the ol chicken coop and get very drunk.

116 posted on 08/19/2004 3:26:48 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: prairiebreeze

and also probably way the special forces clerk thought there was a firefight.


117 posted on 08/19/2004 3:27:51 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: cogitator
So what you're saying is that they're only trying to work against Kerry's being elected, they aren't really trying to help President Bush.

I heard O'Neill on the radio the other day and he said he, and many of the other Swiftee's, are Democrats but that he couldn't let that liar and phony Kerry become President without speaking up.

118 posted on 08/19/2004 3:29:33 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Reagan is King

They all came from the same after action report, which Kerry wrote.


119 posted on 08/19/2004 3:29:40 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: Pilsner

I agree


120 posted on 08/19/2004 3:30:15 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: faithincowboys

Here's the press release:

For Immediate Release

Statement By Swift Boat Veterans for Truth Member Larry Thurlow

I am convinced that the language used in my citation for a Bronze Star was language taken directly from John Kerry's report which falsely described the action on the Bay Hap River as action that saw small arms fire and automatic weapons fire from both banks of the river.

To this day, I can say without a doubt in my mind, along with other accounts from my shipmates -- there was no hostile enemy fire directed at my boat or at any of the five boats operating on the river that day.

I submitted no paperwork for a medal nor did I file an after action report describing the incident. To my knowledge, John Kerry was the only officer who filed a report describing his version of the incidents that occurred on the river that day.

It was not until I had left the Navy -- approximately three months after I left the service -- that I was notified that I was to receive a citation for my actions on that day.

I believed then as I believe now that I received my Bronze Star for my efforts to rescue the injured crewmen from swift boat number three and to conduct damage control to prevent that boat from sinking. My boat and several other swift boats went to the aid of our fellow swift boat sailors whose craft was adrift and taking on water. We provided immediate rescue and damage control to prevent boat three from sinking and to offer immediate protection and comfort to the injured crew.

After the mine exploded, leaving swift boat three dead in the water, John Kerry's boat, which was on the opposite side of the river, fled the scene. US Army Special Forces officer Jim Rassmann, who was on Kerry's boat at the time, fell off the boat and into the water. Kerry's boat returned several minutes later -- under no hail of enemy gunfire -- to retrieve Rassmann from the river only seconds before another boat was going to pick him up.

Kerry campaign spokespersons have conflicting accounts of this incident -- the latest one being that Kerry's boat did leave but only briefly and returned under withering enemy fire to rescue Mr. Rassmann. However, none of the other boats on the river that day reported enemy fire nor was anyone wounded by small arms action. The only damage on that day was done to boat three -- a result of the underwater mine. None of the other swift boats received damage from enemy gunfire.

And in a new development, Kerry campaign officials are now finally acknowledging that while Kerry's boat left the scene, none of the other boats on the river ever left the damaged swift boat. This is a direct contradiction to previous accounts made by Jim Rassmann in the Oregonian newspaper and a direct contradiction to the "No Man Left Behind" theme during the Democratic National Convention.

These ever changing accounts of the Bay Hap River incident by Kerry campaign officials leave me asking one question. If no one ever left the scene of the Bay Hap River incident, how could anyone be left behind?

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/article.php?story=20040819100856500


121 posted on 08/19/2004 3:34:15 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: cake_crumb
Remember too that this was the last incident in Kerry's abbreviated tour. Shortly thereafter, Tom Wright says he took the steps to have Kerry sent home. IMHO Tom got the reports on Kerry's actions that day, started the out-processing and in order to gain Kerry's acquiescence (Wright says Kerry didn't want to leave) offered to endorse the paperwork - sort of a here's the medal, now get the heck out of my AO. We'll only know if Kerry releases the paperwork.
122 posted on 08/19/2004 3:34:34 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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To: cogitator
"The reason for what they're doing is to help re-elect President Bush and to make sure that Kerry isn't elected."

You're wrong. They have NOTHING WHATEVER to gain by lying. They're not out to get President Bush reelected, that's a Kerry campaign talking point. Not accusing you, it's just that you might be absorbing it without knowing it.

They're out to regain THEIR HONOR, STOLEN BY MEN LIKE HANOI JOHN KERRY WITH THEIR LIES AND COOPERATION WITH THE ENEMY. THEY BELIEVE IN THEIR HEARTS OF HEARTS HE IS A TRAITOR TO HIS BROTHERS IN ARMS AND A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, WHO CONTINUES BETRAYING BOTH HIS BROTHERS IN ARMS AND SECURITY OF THIS COUNTRY TO THIS DAY. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SIMPLE POLITICS.

IF THEY LIE THEY WILL BE FOUND OUT AND THEY WILL LOSE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING : SELF RESPECT, QUITE POSSIBLY THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR HONOR, AND THEIR COUNTRY. OUR COUNTRY

123 posted on 08/19/2004 3:38:18 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Yardstick

AP writers are always ready to go into action at any Democrat's behest.


124 posted on 08/19/2004 3:38:24 PM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful)
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To: prairiebreeze
My understanding is that SBVfT wasn't even discussed until kerry was well on his way to wrapping up the dem nomination. That would have been just before their initial May 2004 press conference.

There has been a Swift boats veterans' association (I don't know its official name.) for years but that's not the same as the SBVfT 527 organization.

I'll try to find their incorporation date or the date they registered as a 527.

125 posted on 08/19/2004 3:41:36 PM PDT by Bob
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To: cogitator
So what you're saying is that they're only trying to work against Kerry's being elected, they aren't really trying to help President Bush.

John O'Neill has said this from the beginning. He and his fellow Swift Boat Vets were content to let it ride until along came Kerry making his Vietnam 'heroism' the cornerstone of the campaign. Since they knew the truth, they didn't think that a man who would outright lie about his service deserved to be Commander in Chief, not to mention the fact that here he was talking like his Vietnam service was such a wonderful thing when 30 years before, he trashed and slandered Vets as soon as he could when he got home! O'Neill said that was just not right and thought something should be done about it, and he was in a position to debate Kerry having done so during the time Kerry was running around calling his fellow vets baby killers, etc.

126 posted on 08/19/2004 3:41:36 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: prairiebreeze

The Swift Boats for Truth group formed after it became clear that John Kerry would be the nominee back during the primary.


127 posted on 08/19/2004 3:43:07 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: Combat Override Button

Kerry served his country in combat. Ok

Kerry came home and lied about his fellow soldiers. What about that? Did he have to? NO! But did he? YES!

Kerry was booted out of Vietnam, he was ticked about it, he came home and purposely destroyed honorable Vets. He discussed assassinations of U.S. Senators for heaven's sake!

What is wrong with you?


128 posted on 08/19/2004 3:45:13 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Triple
The only lifting of Cut & Run Kerry's boat was the front as he was hauling a$$ away from the "fight".
129 posted on 08/19/2004 3:48:04 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: Pilsner
It is quite possible that he really though some of it was incoming,when in fact it was all outgoing. If so that makes him mistaken, not a liar.

Good point.

130 posted on 08/19/2004 3:50:45 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: maryz
"I did see on another thread something about the swiftboats firing in case of enemy fire."

Believe me, when we were fired upon all hell broke loose. I recall one incident on one of the boats in our division where the gunners mate on the twin .50s froze up on the triggers and one of the barrels warped resulting in a round exiting through the side of the barrel and through the pilot house.

I always figured the VC used to fire on our Swift Boats just to watch all resulting chaos.

131 posted on 08/19/2004 3:52:37 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (John Kerry, Unfit to be Commander in Chief)
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To: NonValueAdded
"Tom Wright says he took the steps to have Kerry sent home."

Yes I remember. Kerry was a dangerous loose cannon.

Kerry didn't want to leave? Interesting. I speculated before that Kerry's been mentally unstable most or all of his life. One would almost think he ENJOYED shooting fleeing enemies in the back, and going psycho in a free fire zone for no particular reason, according to some of the accounts. It wasn't jus tthe fleeing but some excerpts of his diary I've read that give me the impression he spent most of that 4 months shivering in abject terror.

His favorite game was to make believe he was King Arthor....must be hard for him to reconcile his sadistic tendancies (all sadists are cowards) with the image of an honorable hero. Looks like he projected his own Dark side onto a hundred thousand innocent men just so he could recreat himself in his Arthor/Prince Charming persona.

Charming indeed.

132 posted on 08/19/2004 3:52:39 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: gilliam

Liberals and liars never seem to grasp the "first rule of holes."


133 posted on 08/19/2004 3:52:50 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: Bob

Yes, there is certainly a distinction between the vet organization and the 527. From pages 4 and 5 in "Unfit to Command" which I am currently reading, a description is given of the SwiftBoat Vet reunions in Norfolk, VA Summer 2003.
That day Dan Daly, the master of ceremonies introduced many dignitaries in attendence and when the time came to introduce Kerry, Daly said "...who many be the next president of the United States. A deafening silence ensued. Daly was embarrassed and said "I guess I laid an egg with that one".

A year later another Swiftee gathering occured led by Rear Admiral Roy Hoffman, when the Swiftees had written an open letter to Kerry. This was right before the press conference they held in May 2004. Kerry accepted the nomination in what, July?


134 posted on 08/19/2004 3:54:04 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: cake_crumb
Even without all that we're talking about easily SEVERAL million people, Vietnamese refugees, Vietnam veterans and their families, who were directly or indirectly injured by Kerry's VVAW antics. Kerry reopening those wounds was a baaaaaaaad idea....for Kerry. The word is getting out.

Do you think these Vietnamese people would speak up and out against Kerry? I think we need to hear from a few of them. Like how their relatives were killed because of Kerry's actions in the VVAW.

135 posted on 08/19/2004 3:54:21 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Cuttnhorse
I always figured the VC used to fire on our Swift Boats just to watch all resulting chaos.

Hey, they need a laugh, too!

Seriously, I'm impressed with anyone who can do that. Thanks for your service!

136 posted on 08/19/2004 3:54:26 PM PDT by maryz
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To: cogitator
If kerry weren't the nominee, we never would have heard of the Swiftees.

That's very likely true. So what you're saying is that they're only trying to work against Kerry's being elected, they aren't really trying to help President Bush.

O'Neill has stated strongly that the group doesn't care what impact they have regarding GWB's election chances.

Paraphrasing O'Neill: If our efforts hurt the Bush campaign, that's tough. This is about getting to the truth of kerry's service and ours.

I'll try to find the direct quote on that statement.

137 posted on 08/19/2004 3:54:29 PM PDT by Bob
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To: RasterMaster
TO me the most telling statement today was made by John O'Niell --- "There were 5 boats in an area 75 feet wide, supposedly under enemy fire and none of the boats had a single bullet hole."
138 posted on 08/19/2004 3:56:30 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: cake_crumb
It wasn't just the fleeing but some excerpts of his diary I've read

There was one Christmas entry posted that was just so adolescent and self-pitying that all I could think of was the old 60s song "Why Must I Be a Teenager in Love?" (which I always hated, BTW!). The subject matter was -- obviously -- different, but the tone!

139 posted on 08/19/2004 3:56:52 PM PDT by maryz
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To: prairiebreeze
From pages 4 and 5 in "Unfit to Command" which I am currently reading,...

Now you'got me jealous. My copy hasn't arrived yet.

140 posted on 08/19/2004 4:00:24 PM PDT by Bob
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To: gilliam
The attacks on the SBVT by the Dems is reminding me of the scene from Braveheart. The one where the English come charging on horseback toward Wallace's line of men. The men wait until the last moment to raise up the lethal phalanx of pikes to smote down the English.

Just keep charging Dems.....
141 posted on 08/19/2004 4:02:49 PM PDT by thepainster
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To: Reagan is King

I heard O'Neill on the radio the other day and he said he, and many of the other Swiftee's, are Democrats but that he couldn't let that liar and phony Kerry become President without speaking up.

I love it when the Dems go after other Dems!
Nader is finding out how viscious the Dems can be also.
DemoRAT feeding frenzy!

However, I still support the Swift Vets even if some are DemoRATs.


142 posted on 08/19/2004 4:05:55 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Bob

From Drudge:

SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH TO RELEASE NEW TV AD // latest television ad from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth will be released tomorrow at 10:00 am. The ad will begin airing next week in select markets... Developing...


143 posted on 08/19/2004 4:05:55 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Combat Override Button
If Kerry’s boat fled and then came back, that may have been the correct course of action.

The correct course of action is to basically circle the wagons around the wounded vessel. By fleeing you leave the disabled boat in the open so that whoever is on the shore has a "sitting duck" target.

The reason they travelled in groups was so that if one boat were attacked, the other boats would give cover to rescue the attacked boat. The protocol was for the boats to circle the damaged boat and to engage in laying down fire in all directions while attempting to rescue the crew from the damaged boat. By fleeing, Kerry cut off at least one direction in which the other boats could lay down fire. He also reduced the number of guns available to lay down cover fire for the rescuers.

144 posted on 08/19/2004 4:09:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: jimbo123

LOL...Fox News just reported that
Kerry basically dared them [the SBVfT] to keep up their 'attacks' " ...I turned to Hubby and said "I THINK they'll take him up on that dare"


145 posted on 08/19/2004 4:09:52 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: jimbo123

I saw a cryptic message on another thread that the new ad features POW survivors from the Hanoi Hilton.


146 posted on 08/19/2004 4:12:34 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: SuziQ

Can we obtain a copy of the "After Action Report" under the FOIA?


147 posted on 08/19/2004 4:15:15 PM PDT by mondoman (Kerry's reaction to SBVFT is ALL George W. Bush's fault!)
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To: richardtavor
Already has been spun. One of Kerry's crew said that they had to turn around to avoid obstructions in the water (maybe like mines!), and that this was SOP. I guess all of those other boats were not following standard CYA procedures....

But according to G.I. Gigolo's report, and Rassman's corroboration...Kerry went 5 KILOMETERS away, then turned and came back after all the heavy lifting was done!

Funny that no one else seemed to need 5 Klicks of "clearance"!

148 posted on 08/19/2004 4:16:06 PM PDT by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: Always Right

When danger reared its ugly head
John Kerry turned his tail and fled
Brave brave John Kerry


149 posted on 08/19/2004 4:31:43 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: cake_crumb

LOL I am hopping all over the place myself trying not to miss anything!
Not getting much done today!


150 posted on 08/19/2004 4:35:23 PM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea (God shed His grace on thee.)
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