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Carville, Davis, and Other Pests – “Those We Don’t Speak Of”
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 20 August 2004 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 08/19/2004 12:52:45 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

This is a movie review, a reminder of one of the most reprehensible people in American history, and a well-deserved pranging of James Carville and Lanny Davis. Both of them appeared last week on every TV program in the known universe to decry the criticisms of John Kerry by 254 Swift Boat veterans because “they were not on the same boat.”

This is a bald-faced, brass-plated lie in a number of ways. But before we count those up, a review of M. Night Shyamalan’s latest movie, The Village, is in order Yes, this will connect up. And so will a brief history of Aaron Burr, who killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel in Weehawken, New Jersey in 1804.

If you enjoy subtle, effective thrillers, Shyamalan’s latest movie is a must-see. Even if thrillers are not your cup of tea, it’s still worthwhile. This is one of the few directors of whom I say, see all the movies he ever produces. I’ll say enough about this film to show the connection with Carville and Davis. But I will not spoil the surprise; Shyamalan’s twists at the end of his movies are legendary.

In The Village, this quiet town of simple folk is hemmed into its boundaries by “Those We Don’t Speak Of” in the surrounding woods. These are fearsome creatures, huge and with great claws, easily angered, and deadly to both man and beast. The Elders of the town have strict rules for how the people must keep to themselves and avoid antagonizing “Those We Don’t Speak Of.”

We turn now to Carville and Davis. After the Swift Boat Vets for Truth put out their first TV commercial about dishonesties in John Kerry’s record, and their book, Unfit for Command, was due to come out, the counterattack came from these two gentlemen. It did not come from Kerry himself. It did not come from any of the much smaller group of Swift Boat Vets who support Kerry. (Those are well-scripted, and kept under wraps. Contact the Rev. Alston at his church in Columbia, SC, and you will be referred to the Kerry press office.)

No, it was these two paid verbal assassins who came out to do battle on TV. And their central point, the mantra they repeated incessantly and passed off to the assistant assassins who appeared on the lesser TV, radio and print media assignments, was this: “They were not on the same boat.”

Let’s take that statement apart. Not all of the 13 or so Swift Boat Vets who support Kerry WERE on the same Boat with him. The story of Rev. David Alston, whose speech I praised three weeks ago when I thought he was telling the truth as he believed it, has unraveled. After his hospitalization for a head injury, which happened the same day as the injury to the Lieutenant who Kerry replaced on the 94 Boat, Alston only came back to duty for a single week before Kerry engineered his trip back home.

So his magnificent speech on Wednesday night in Boston was fraudulent, and so was John Kerry’s praise for Rev. Alston’s presence on the 94 Boat. And the story of Jim Rassman, the Man-Whose-Life-Was-Saved, is also unraveling. His version of what Boat he initially was on does not match the official records, nor does Kerry’s conduct just before the “Deliverance.”

On the other side of the equation, one of the Swift Boat Vets who opposes Kerry, Steve Gardner, served as long or longer with Kerry as all those who still support him. Gardner was a few feet away from Kerry the whole time, and deems him an unfit commander.

But the whole “on the same boat” issue is a fraud. Everyone who has seen John Kerry’s home movies in which he and other sailors took their Boats and reenacted missions for his camera, knows that this is a fraud. Those movies, woven into a hagiography by a disciple of Steven Spielberg, clearly showed the fraud. And though only 14 million people saw that glowing film when it was first broadcast in Boston, that Mekong River clip has been run repeatedly.

In watching such carefully crafted films, what’s left out is as important as what’s included. There was no mention whatsoever that Kerry’s political career began with election as Lieutenant Governor of Massachusetts under Michael Dukakis. I suppose that would have resembled a resume item stating that Kerry was First Officer on the Titanic. And Kerry’s 20-year career in the US Senate garnered a whole 27 seconds in that film, if my stopwatch was correct. But I digress.

As I describe what you’ve seen in the Mekong footage but perhaps not paid close attention to, you will perceive the fraud. The shot is from the stern of one Swift Boat. Most of the time, it shows a second Boat about 100 feet behind. But as the clip continues, for just three seconds a third Boat is seen, about 100 feet behind the second Boat. Kerry’s own film shows the way these Boats operated. For the mutual safety of the Boats and their crews, they operated in packs or groups of two to seven. The hulls of these Boats were thin, with little protection from attack. They were therefore very easy to sink if damaged at the waterline. The crew of a Boat would probably die en masse, if their Boat was sunk during a solo mission.

Kerry’s own film clip also shows that crew and commanders on accompanying Boats had as good or better vantage points to see what happened on another Boat, than the crew on that Boat – especially if that one was under active attack. Consider what the Carville-Davis same-boat canard really means. On the beach of Normandy, or in the Arden Forest, would accurate descriptions of what happened only be known by members of the same platoon, or would other soldiers not far away have an accurate viewpoint?

In the air, would only pilots on the same plane have a view of the action? Or would other pilots in the same squadron have an equal or possibly better vantage point to describe what actually happened?

Kerry’s own film clip shows that the Swift Boats operated in close order, like platoons of soldiers, or squadrons of planes. Neither James Carville nor Lanny Davis are stupid men. It’s impossible that they have not seen the Kerry film clip. Therefore they know exactly how the Swift Boats operated. They KNOW that the mantra they’re using to attack the Swift Boat Vets for Truth is a bald-faced lie. They KNOW that they’re engaging in character assassination, not political debate. They’re willing to do that to get the only result they care about: political victory at any cost.

And that brings us to Aaron Burr. He was a brilliant politician, but he was devoid of ethics. His great legacies in American history are three. He turned a social organization in New York into the oldest and most corrupt urban machine in the US, Tammany Hall. He caused the addition of the 12th Amendment to the Constitution, to avoid a repeat of his attempt to steal the Presidency (from Thomas Jefferson). And he shot and killed Hamilton, a Framer of the Constitution, a man whose boots Burr was not fit to black.

Burr was the ultimate politician, always looking for the winning angle regardless of whether it was either ethical or legal, always looking out for himself. Among his lesser achievements were two attempts to foment the revolt of parts of the Union. His second such effort, to break away New Orleans, resulted in his trial for treason. He narrowly avoided conviction.

Burr is the American politician with the blackest soul. Anything to win; no exceptions. And now you see why I compare Carville and Davis to Burr. They, like him, are lawyers, politicians, and public spokesmen. They, like him, are a disgrace to each and every one of those professions. They, like him, are monsters of American politics, who serve no purpose except to scare the children.

When the “children” at issue are actually the voters who will elect a President of the United States while the nation is at war, the true horror of Carville and Davis is revealed. They are willing to sabotage the future of the nation and the safety of its citizens with lies to scare people into voting for a fraud.

Other than actually shooting a Framer of the Constitution, other than seeking the rebellion of parts of the Union, it is hard to see how these two gentlemen are any less dangerous in their efforts to damage this nation for their own political benefit, than was Aaron Burr.

And for those who have seen The Village, there is a final, tight parallel between “Those We Don’t Speak Of” and Carville and Davis. I can’t mention that without spoiling the ending. See for yourself.

Of course, if anyone in the Kerry camp was actually interested in getting the truth on the table, the first step would be for John Kerry to sign a Form 180. That allows release of the personnel records of anyone in the military to those who want to see all documents, such as reporters. George Bush signed a Form 180 long ago and without hesitation. Documents released by the Kerry Campaign so far are the ones they choose to release. Even those raise serious questions about Kerry’s version of the truth.

Kerry has not signed the Form 180, and is offering the pretense that all documents have been made public. They have not. Speaking as a lawyer, when the other side conceals documents, it usually means those documents will damage their position. Otherwise, they would turn the documents over, quick like a bunny. That’s just common sense.

And that type of common sense has not yet inflicted itself on either the Washington Post or the New York Times, which published largely document-free articles on the Swift Boat veterans late this week. Both newspapers were far more interested in making negative comments about ordinary Swift Boat vets, than they were in establishing the truth about John Kerry’s service. As a former college newspaper editor, I would have rejected both articles as short on facts and long on the personal opinions of the writers.

Notice that neither of these articles refer to Kerry’s “Christmas in Cambodia,” his oft-repeated claim about his boat and crew in 1968, which even Kerry has backed away from, without yet figuring out what story will take its place. I’ve mostly left that out, too, because that lie has already been put to bed.

So the subterfuge continues about the four-month tour of the Lieutenant on Swift Boats in Vietnam. (There’s an insidious TV theme song in there, somewhere.)

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About the Author: John Armor is a civil rights attorney who lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. CongressmanBillybob@earthlink.net

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aaronburr; alexanderhamilton; form180; georgebush; jamescarville; jimrassman; johnkerry; kannydavis; michaeldukakis; newyorktimes; revdavidalston; shyamalan; stevegardner; swiftboatvets; tammanyhall; thevillage; unfitforcommand; washingtonpost
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1 posted on 08/19/2004 12:52:47 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Constitution Day; TaxRelief; mhking; JohnHuang2
Please ping this on, if y'all choose to.

John / Billybob

2 posted on 08/19/2004 12:54:10 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Bravo, O Distinguished Gentleman!


3 posted on 08/19/2004 12:59:21 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Great job, John! Thanks!


4 posted on 08/19/2004 1:01:49 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Kerry’s own film clip shows that the Swift Boats operated in close order, like platoons of soldiers, or squadrons of planes. Neither James Carville nor Lanny Davis are stupid men. It’s impossible that they have not seen the Kerry film clip. Therefore they know exactly how the Swift Boats operated. They KNOW that the mantra they’re using to attack the Swift Boat Vets for Truth is a bald-faced lie. They KNOW that they’re engaging in character assassination, not political debate.

And every liberal media outlet that parrots this line of attack is just as guilty. This is an indictment of the entire liberal media, and not just Davis and Carville, who were clearly test marketing this spin prior to broader release.

5 posted on 08/19/2004 1:02:04 PM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: Congressman Billybob

James Carville is not only an ethically-challenged disgrace to his country, his party and the legal profession, he is (in my opinion) a potent argument against the theory of evolution.


6 posted on 08/19/2004 1:07:05 PM PDT by RichInOC (James Carville...Gollum without the vestiges of a conscience.)
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To: TaxRelief; mykdsmom; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day, TaxRelief or Helms if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
7 posted on 08/19/2004 1:11:20 PM PDT by Constitution Day (...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Redux of the Clinton years IF Lurch is elected!! Heard he intents to bring them all back to the WH!! Ughhhh :(
8 posted on 08/19/2004 1:14:42 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas

It appears that Swift Boats operate much like a Tank Platoon only on water. You may not be on same vehicle as a man but you're operating close enough to get to know all members of the platoon.


9 posted on 08/19/2004 1:17:46 PM PDT by Credo
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To: Congressman Billybob

I'm going to print this out and read it shortly but I'll bump it right now because, coming from you, I know it will be thoughtful, intelligent and dead-on accurate.


10 posted on 08/19/2004 1:27:14 PM PDT by Hatteras
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bttt


11 posted on 08/19/2004 1:35:10 PM PDT by eureka! (May karma come back to the Rats and presstitutes in a big way....)
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To: Congressman Billybob

nice work.


12 posted on 08/19/2004 1:52:57 PM PDT by KDD (Then he was lying)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Carville = Gollum

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

13 posted on 08/19/2004 1:53:03 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Congressman Billybob

nice work.


14 posted on 08/19/2004 1:53:16 PM PDT by KDD (Then he was lying)
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To: McGruff; malia; YaYa123; leadpenny

Ping!


15 posted on 08/19/2004 2:52:33 PM PDT by Springman
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To: Egon

Excellent! Ping


16 posted on 08/19/2004 3:16:21 PM PDT by RhoTheta
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To: mhking

17 posted on 08/19/2004 3:17:37 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (No animals have been hurt in the making of this tag line)
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To: reagan_fanatic

BUMP


18 posted on 08/19/2004 4:33:54 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Constitution Day
Great job, nice piece, I too have been a writer and

broadcaster since 1972. I watched collateral instead

of the village, it was awesome, Cruise is so hard to beat.
19 posted on 08/19/2004 5:42:45 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Great job John.

L

20 posted on 08/19/2004 6:54:03 PM PDT by Lurker ( Rope, tree, liberal. Adult assembly required.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

What does Mary Matalin see in a man like Carville? I wonder how she can stay married to him while she works for the Republicans? Maybe she is able to separate the man from his work but I couldn't. His rantings in support of Clinton and Kerry shows too much of his character. IMO, she married beneath her.

Thanks for the article, Congressman Billybob! It's right on!


21 posted on 08/19/2004 7:45:19 PM PDT by AReaganGirl (President Reagan gave us back our confidence. Now, let's help Bush to carry on Reagan legacy!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Taxman Bravo Zulu!

Most excellent article, John!


22 posted on 08/20/2004 12:25:02 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
GREAT column, my friend!

Now that Jerry Agar is going to KC, I hope that you will still be able to appear on his yet-to-be named replacement's show.

23 posted on 08/20/2004 5:53:58 AM PDT by Constitution Day (...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
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To: AReaganGirl

SHE meet up with this guy during the campaign for BUSH senior , I have always thought she was a part of BUSH losing the WH ,in my opinion being married to this guy and being around him ,and the confidence one puts into a marriage, should disqualify her from being part of the GWB campaign, and to be perfectly honest how can anyone thats not blind wake with this creature next to you ,everyday and have children with him EWWWWWWW.


24 posted on 08/20/2004 5:57:27 AM PDT by douglas1
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To: Congressman Billybob

bttt


25 posted on 08/20/2004 9:26:39 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: sauropod

read later


26 posted on 08/21/2004 12:12:12 PM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Congressman Billybob
would accurate descriptions of what happened only be known by members of the same platoon,

A more accurate analogy would be to the same squad. Squads usually operate in coordination with other squads in the same platoon, but different platoons in the same company might be well separated (on the scale of ground operations verses those of maritime or riverine operations) and often out of direct sight of each other.

27 posted on 08/22/2004 10:29:15 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Are there any effective ways to induce main stream reporters to ask for the 180?


28 posted on 08/22/2004 10:41:02 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Congressman Billybob
Nice piece.....

Only thing I would quibble about would be this: "Burr is the American politician with the blackest soul." I think ol' Bill Clinton's heart is as black as the devil's riding boots....If nothing else, Burr and Clinton could be neck n' neck...to win the "black'ist soul" award.

Well now come to think of it....while many pundits and lover's of all things Clinton alike...claimed Bill was the first black president....I think Clinton wins hands down.

Best FRegards,

29 posted on 08/22/2004 10:53:51 AM PDT by Osage Orange ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good"- Hillary Clinton)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Bump for later read.


30 posted on 08/22/2004 11:02:56 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: AReaganGirl

she can stay married to him while she works for the Republicans? Maybe she is able to separate the man from his work but I couldn't. His rantings in support of Clinton and Kerry shows too much of his character. IMO, she married beneath her

I once recently saw the two debate each other. Keep this under your hat but Carville can be an amazingly effective debater when he is (trying) to be polite. Otherwise, I fail to see how his ugly rantings can convince anybody of anything except that he is a lowlife.

31 posted on 08/22/2004 6:17:47 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Congressman Billybob

Well done John, how's the CFR effort coming along?


32 posted on 08/23/2004 3:17:58 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Kerry/Edwards: Hating America One Vote at a Time)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Great post! At the end of the day, it is also noticed that Kerry has not brought suit against John O'Neill..so anything Clinton's junkyard dogs say is just pure BS..they have been picked to defend and deflect Kerry's honor and his political career....what a feckless pair.


33 posted on 08/23/2004 10:13:31 PM PDT by scoastie
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To: Congressman Billybob
Great post. If you're going to publish this though:

On the beach of Normandy, or in the Arden Forest,

It's the Ardennes Forest I believe.
34 posted on 08/24/2004 7:08:42 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
Thanks for the compliment, and the correction. When I read your comment about the "Ardennes Forest" the remnants of my college French kicked in. I feel certain you are right.

John / Billybob

35 posted on 08/24/2004 7:41:44 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: dirtboy

Colmes is still trying to make a hit with it .. telling POW Galanti that the guys making the charge weren't on the boat. I almost fell over!


36 posted on 08/24/2004 9:16:51 PM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: Nov 2004 - is an Election for the Soul of America)
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To: RoseofTexas

You're exactly right .. Kerry = Clinton II


37 posted on 08/24/2004 9:19:22 PM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: Nov 2004 - is an Election for the Soul of America)
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To: Credo

Plus, several of the SBVs have said that at the end of the day they were all billoted together or in close proximity. They ate together and actually lived together. You get to know a person pretty well .. even if you aren't on the same boat.


38 posted on 08/24/2004 9:21:11 PM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: Nov 2004 - is an Election for the Soul of America)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Print out and wear as a Campaign Button or go HERE to print.

Feel free to reuse this anywhere you wish...

39 posted on 08/24/2004 9:25:43 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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