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What kind of gun should I get my wife?
na ^ | 8/19/04 | Me

Posted on 08/19/2004 1:20:25 PM PDT by Callahan

My wife of a whole month and a half is interested in getting a firearm for personal protection, as she works in an unsavory part of Philadelphia. She has limited experience with guns (her dad was a cop), but could use some advice--and many Freepers are much more knowledgable than her new husband. I joined the NRA on principle a few years ago, but shoot mostly my friend's stuff. She is barely five feet and has small hands. What's the best choice, considering cost? Also, any tips on getting a permit in the Tri-state area. Can you carry across state lines?


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1 posted on 08/19/2004 1:20:25 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan



There's an Al Bundy "Psycho Dad" joke here waiting to bust out. :)


2 posted on 08/19/2004 1:21:37 PM PDT by Repairman Jack
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To: Callahan

Oh yeah--she's a sociology professor--the perfect Freeper bride, ha ha!


3 posted on 08/19/2004 1:21:49 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
105mm Howitzer...tough to load, but absolutely deadly at close quarters!!
4 posted on 08/19/2004 1:22:20 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Callahan

Ruger SP101 hammerless in .38 Special.

Lightweight, fits a woman's hand well, and goes right into the purse.


5 posted on 08/19/2004 1:22:35 PM PDT by x1stcav (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Callahan

9mm is perfect for a lady. Teach her to aim at the crotch. It is very effective self-defense.


6 posted on 08/19/2004 1:22:40 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: newgeezer

What ever gun the kid behind the counter says "rocks!".


7 posted on 08/19/2004 1:23:24 PM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: Callahan

...although I always liked the look of the Derringer in the garter belt look! :-)


8 posted on 08/19/2004 1:23:41 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Callahan

Suggest you try a Glock. They come in many different sizes and calibers.


9 posted on 08/19/2004 1:23:47 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Bandwidth is too good for these (L)users.)
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To: Callahan

WHAT!!!

Haven't you heard? Guns KILL PEOPLE!!!! Innocent, defenseless, kindhearted, puppyloving people!!!

CNN said so and they wouldn't lie!

/sarcasm


10 posted on 08/19/2004 1:24:12 PM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: Callahan

WHAT!!!

Haven't you heard? Guns KILL PEOPLE!!!! Innocent, defenseless, kindhearted, puppyloving people!!!

CNN said so and they wouldn't lie!

/sarcasm


11 posted on 08/19/2004 1:24:40 PM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: Callahan

I hope she doesn't decide to use it on you.


12 posted on 08/19/2004 1:25:04 PM PDT by cpprfld (Who said accountants are boring?)
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To: Callahan

bttt


13 posted on 08/19/2004 1:25:24 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (If only hamsters could vote........)
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To: Callahan
I live in Northeast Philly, and can tell you that getting a permit to carry a handgun in the city is next to impossible, as far as state lines, that depends on the which state you travel into or from. The best thing you can do is ask the local police, or just go with a taser or mace.
14 posted on 08/19/2004 1:25:34 PM PDT by das65
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To: x1stcav; Callahan
Ruger SP101 hammerless in .38 Special.

I second that or some similar small frame .38/357 with a 21/2" or 4' barrel.

15 posted on 08/19/2004 1:25:43 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: Callahan

I am also 5' tall with small hands. I have a Colt 380, fits perfectly. Have her handle several different models and see what is comfortable for her. That's what my husband did. Also see that she gets plenty of practice at a shooting range with a qualified instructor so she is confident handling it.


16 posted on 08/19/2004 1:25:55 PM PDT by magnumsgirl (Welcome to America...........now speak English)
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To: Callahan

My wife loves her Walthers PPK Stainless. Small caliber (.380), but an effective, SAFE gun. Liked it so much I got another for myself. For those capable of carrying one, the trusty 1911 .45ACP wins for stopping power and reliability in MY book. Personal preferences only.


17 posted on 08/19/2004 1:26:07 PM PDT by pgobrien (NADER 2004....just to PO the Libs here in NY........)
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To: Callahan

One that kills bad guys. There are lots of that kind out there.


18 posted on 08/19/2004 1:26:17 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: cpprfld

I considered that. For a while, I had life insurance through the NRA, and she didn't off me then. I don't plan on pulling a McGreevey any time soon, so I think we're cool.


19 posted on 08/19/2004 1:26:37 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
Get one of those new feather weight revolvers. I think there about 12 oz. in 357/38cal
20 posted on 08/19/2004 1:26:47 PM PDT by 12.7mm
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To: Callahan

Go with her and pick one out together and make her part of the decision process. She will be more comfortable with the choice and hopefully will practice with it enough to be effective if the need ever arises.


21 posted on 08/19/2004 1:27:02 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Callahan

One that fits in her hands and isn't going to twist her wrist off when she fires it.


22 posted on 08/19/2004 1:27:08 PM PDT by Darksheare (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he still taste like chicken?)
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To: x1stcav
Ruger SP101 hammerless in .38 Special. Lightweight, fits a woman's hand well, and goes right into the purse.

A fine gun. ....and it'll shoot full-power .357 mag loads all day if one can handle it. Those things are built like tanks.

23 posted on 08/19/2004 1:27:12 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Repairman Jack

I gotta second the hammerless revolver. Revolvers do not jam, plus a little snub nose .38 is perfect size for a purse or pocket. Ruger makes extremely durable products, and it's an American company.


24 posted on 08/19/2004 1:27:19 PM PDT by Rammer
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To: TXBSAFH

For small handed ladies I often recommend the Kahr 9mm and 40 caliber handguns www.kahrarms.com

They really aren't any bigger than the Walther PPK/s and are very reliable. The MK9 and P9 models are so good they are approved off duty guns for the NYPD.


25 posted on 08/19/2004 1:28:04 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun...more than one, if possible..)
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To: Callahan
You run the usual narrow course between concealability on the one hand and shootability (is that a word?) on the other. Little, concealable guns can be noisy and intimidating for the novice to practice with, and they NEED practice! Larger ones that are more pleasant to shoot may not fit a purse.

I'd recommend against a semi-auto in this case. There are more bells and whistles involved in the safe tactical employment of these things from concealment than with a wheelgun.

What I'd do for her is to purchase a .38 cal 2-in barrel snubnose such as the Charter Arms I have about 10 feet from me. Have her practice with low-recoil wadcutters and load the thing with +P semijacketed hollowpoints for carry. If she really needs it she won't notice the difference in recoil or even hear it go off. The advantages are small size and manageability during practice; the disadvantages are only five shots and a longer time to reload if (heaven help us) a reload is necessary. It also does not require anything more than a "point and pull" user interface. In high-adrenaline self-defense situations that's a big deal, especially for somebody who has minimal training.

Just my $0.02. You're going to get a hundred different opinions from the other gun buffs on FR. Don't listen to any of them. ;-)

26 posted on 08/19/2004 1:28:28 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Callahan

Right off the top I would suggest that you don't buy her a gun till she's VERY familiar with one. Till then I would suggest pepper spray and good self defense training.

When you do get her a gun get something small and simple. something between a .22 and a .38 with a clip beats a revolver for simplicity and ease of use.

My wife and I don't own any handguns, just rifles and shotguns. we go to the shooting range a couple of times a month.


27 posted on 08/19/2004 1:29:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Here, bite down on this.)
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To: x1stcav; Callahan

I respectfully disagree. I am a male with small hands, and was never quite comfortable shooting a Ruger. S&W small-frame revolvers, OTOH, fit my hands perfectly, had good triggers, and were very accurate.

BTW, Gun Tests magazine has excellent firearms reviews and comparisons. They have a website, but I think you have to be a subscriber to read the reviews.


28 posted on 08/19/2004 1:29:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Callahan
You're probably going to get a lot of replies on this. This is ONLY my opinion.

Unless she's an enthusiast, buy her a DA (double action) revolver chambered for the .38 SPCL. You might want to be sure that it's stressed for +P ammo for more stopping power. Teach her to fire it double action, and don't ever even tell her that cocking the hammer is an option untill she's VERY comfortable with it.

I would say go with one of the newer DA semi-autos chambered for something like .40 S&W, but there's NOTHING quite like a jam when you don't need one!...and a wheel gun won't (generally) jam.

If she can handle the additional weight, buy a revolver chambered for the .357 magnum. You can teach her to shoot with regular ole .38 SPCL, ammo... and if it turns out that .357 ammo is too much for her, keep .38 SPCL +P ammo in it.

...just my .02 from teaching some women in my family to shoot, and observing them.
29 posted on 08/19/2004 1:30:26 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: das65

I thought the Penn. was a shall-issue state.. Are you telling us that the issuing authority is breaking the law?


30 posted on 08/19/2004 1:30:30 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Callahan
What kind of gun should I get my wife?

In the case she might point it in your direction, get her a cap gun.

If you want her to have a real gun that will stop bad guys, buy her a Taurus .38 Special.

31 posted on 08/19/2004 1:30:52 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Callahan

Get her a shotgun. You can't shoot yourself easily with one when you are "all shook up".


32 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:03 PM PDT by RISU
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To: Callahan
I'd recommend this. Charter Arms 38 Special, it's small yet very lethal. Then spend some time at the range.




My wife has one of these Ruger P97 DC in 9mm, but Autos require more experience.


33 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:07 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: Callahan
I strongly suggest this revolver. Smith and Wesson Model 36. 2 inch barrel in .38 Special cal. Five shots. I have one, and its a good self defense revolver. Can be found in used, very good condition for between $250 - $300. Since the new Smith & Wesson management told the Klinton administration to go "screw" the previous British owners anti-gun agreements, I have no problem recommending it.


34 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:20 PM PDT by Lockbar (Hell starts at home.)
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To: TommyDale
...although I always liked the look of the Derringer in the garter belt look! :-)

Oh yeah, like in the introduction video for the series "Silk Stalkings."

35 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:24 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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To: Callahan

Effective, but inconvenient.

36 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:25 PM PDT by inkling
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To: Callahan
S&W 642 point-and-click interface.

37 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:31 PM PDT by anonymous_user (The Kerry/Edwards campaign reminds me of "Flowers for Algernon.")
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To: Callahan
"Also, any tips on getting a permit in the Tri-state area. Can you carry across state lines?"

Well, you can forget a carry permit if she's going through NJ. If she's transporting the weapon through New Jersey, she needs to unload it, place it in a lockable container, lock the container, and place that in her trunk. She's also not supposed to make any unnecessary stops while she's transporting the gun. NJ's firearm laws are insane. If she's going to be going to places in New Jersey, I'd have to recommend pepper spray. At the very least, do some research into NJ's gun laws. If you're really trying to be careful, consult an attorney in New Jersey about what can and cannot be done.
38 posted on 08/19/2004 1:31:40 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: Callahan
I like what S&W has in the snub nose styles myself. A .357 can be loaded down to a .38 special or .38 if she is not comfortable with such a powerful round. With small hands she might have a hard time chambering a round, my wife does.
It's not hard to get a CCW permit in Pa., but Philly is a different story.
One major point that I have gone over repeatedly with my wife when we were first married; Is she prepared to take someones life? If she needs to pull a gun on someone she must be ready to use it without second guessing herself.
39 posted on 08/19/2004 1:32:28 PM PDT by stevio (Bumper sticker on my truck "Flush the Johns - Bush/Cheney '04")
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To: Callahan; All

I'm glad you posted this because I have a question about guns and I've been waiting for a thread like this.

I would like to buy a gun for home defense. Several people have recommended shotguns. My husband says that would be a bad idea for me because the recoil would knock me on my backside. He thinks a handgun would be better for me.

Any opinions would be appreciated.


40 posted on 08/19/2004 1:32:35 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (A proud member of the bourgeoisie since 1966)
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To: Callahan

Let her pick the REVOLVER of her choice. Go to a gun shop that has or has access to a pistol range and let her fire several.She will most likely settle on a S & W hamerless .38 or a Taurus titanium .38. Both are VERY safe ,very easy to operate, can be loaded with lots of different load types and conceal well.At short ranges both will do the job. (especially if you empty them).Also they aren't all that expensive.


41 posted on 08/19/2004 1:32:38 PM PDT by ping jockey ("It only takes $.13 to do the job right")
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To: Callahan

Taurus or S&W lightweight hammerless revolver in .38 Special.


42 posted on 08/19/2004 1:32:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Callahan

A Ladysmith in .38. It is a DA revolver; the hammer is faired over so that it doesn't catch on anything when you pull it.
She will need to practice with it - DA triggers are not as much fun as SA triggers. The long pull can make it less accurate.


43 posted on 08/19/2004 1:33:33 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I agree with those who recommend a .38, hammerless. She could even go cheaper, say with a Taurus.

DO NOT GET HER AN AUTOMATIC, like a Glock or Walther or any 9MM.

Why? Automatics are fine guns for people who clean and baby them. Sitting in a purse, probably cleaned once a year, is not babied. Hence, an auto very may JAM when needed. (As an aside I carry an small frame auto -- a Sig .380 --- BUT I baby my gun.)

My wife carried a .38 hammerless Taurus for years. Belly gun -- all that is needed.


44 posted on 08/19/2004 1:33:34 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Callahan
A gun for a new bride is a risky scheme.

I'd suggest she change jobs first.

45 posted on 08/19/2004 1:33:55 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: Callahan

My .357 Magnum Ladysmith fits very nicely in my small hands, but has more recoil than some women prefer so I prefer .38 Special (or +P) for ammo. I tried my brother's Kimber 1911 (.45) and love that gun! Less recoil and the first gun I can point-n-shoot with quite accurately.


46 posted on 08/19/2004 1:34:13 PM PDT by Ladysmith (Morality anchored to the 'definitions' of man is not anchored at all. - Petronski)
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To: MileHi

I 3rd that. My wife loves her SP-101. She keeps +P .38's in it. It's built like a tank and goes bang everytime.


47 posted on 08/19/2004 1:34:45 PM PDT by Ribeye (Protective headwear courtesy of "Reynolds Aluminum Products - Implant Suppression Division")
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To: Callahan

Let her pick the REVOLVER of her choice. Go to a gun shop that has or has access to a pistol range and let her fire several.She will most likely settle on a S & W hamerless .38 or a Taurus titanium .38. Both are VERY safe ,very easy to operate, can be loaded with lots of different load types and conceal well.At short ranges both will do the job. (especially if you empty them).Also they aren't all that expensive.


48 posted on 08/19/2004 1:35:17 PM PDT by ping jockey ("It only takes $.13 to do the job right")
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To: Callahan

My husband got me a Beretta .380 for our 7th anniversay. It fits perfectly in my small hands. I love it and not too much recoil. He has a S&W (I know, I know) 9mm, and that kicks too much for me. Good Luck


49 posted on 08/19/2004 1:35:17 PM PDT by CherylBower
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To: cripplecreek

You can't buy pepper spray or mace in PA.


50 posted on 08/19/2004 1:35:37 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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