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Iran Says It May Pre-empt Attack Against Its Nuclear Facilities
NY Times ^ | August 20, 2004 | NAZILA FATHI

Posted on 08/19/2004 8:58:09 PM PDT by neverdem

TEHRAN, Aug. 19 - Iran's defense minister, Vice Adm. Ali Shamkhani, has warned that Iran may resort to pre-emptive strikes to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities.

Admiral Shamkhani made his comments in an interview on Al Jazeera television on Wednesday in response to a question about the possibility of an American or Israeli attack against Iran's nuclear projects.

"We will not sit to wait for what others will do to us," he said. "Some military commanders in Iran are convinced that preventive operations which the Americans talk about are not their monopoly. Any nation, if it feels threatened, can resort to that."

There has been speculation here that Israel may attack Iran's nuclear sites, as it struck against Iraq's nuclear facilities at Osirak in 1981.

A commander of Iran's hard-line Revolutionary Guards warned this week that Iran would strike Israel's reactor at Dimona if Israel attacked Iran's nuclear sites.

"If Israel fires one missile at Bushehr atomic power plant, it should permanently forget about the Dimona nuclear center, where it produces and keeps its nuclear weapons," said the commander, Gen. Mohammad Baqer Zolqadr.

Admiral Shamkhani said Iran was certain that Israel would not carry out such an attack without a green light from the United States. "So you cannot separate the two," he said.

On Thursday, Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi urged the International Atomic Energy Agency to close its file on charges that Iran was developing nuclear weapons, state-run television reported. This month, the United Nations agency affirmed Iran's claim that the highly enriched uranium found at an Iranian site had been carried in on equipment Iran purchased in the black market.

"If the case is not closed, it intensifies the suspicion about interference of political motives and pressures within the agency," Mr. Kharazi said.

The nuclear watchdog agency is scheduled to report its findings on Iran's nuclear activities at a meeting in Vienna starting Sept. 13. The United States has urged the agency to send Iran's case to the United Nations Security Council, which can impose sanctions.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iaea; iran; irannukes
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1 posted on 08/19/2004 8:58:10 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

And if they did...Iran would be no more.


2 posted on 08/19/2004 8:59:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: DoctorZIn

ping


3 posted on 08/19/2004 9:01:01 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Israel has capability to intercept both their planes and missiles and Iran's attack would be a complete failure. It would, however, give a perfect backdrop for Israel's strike.


4 posted on 08/19/2004 9:02:58 PM PDT by nikola
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To: neverdem

You know..after reading this article..I feel like telling Shaquille O'neal that I might kick his butt if he looks at me the wrong way..what do you think????


5 posted on 08/19/2004 9:03:17 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: neverdem

BRING IT ON YOU KERRY LOVING BA$TARDS!!!


6 posted on 08/19/2004 9:05:03 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: BerniesFriend
You know..after reading this article..I feel like telling Shaquille O'neal that I might kick his butt if he looks at me the wrong way..what do you think????

How fast can you run?

7 posted on 08/19/2004 9:06:13 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: neverdem
Iran may resort to pre-emptive strikes

Please do. We've wanted to do a bit of glass making since 1979. That would give us a chance. Or it might give the Israelis a chance, depending on who gets "pre-empted". Maybe both of us will have a go.

8 posted on 08/19/2004 9:09:11 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: neverdem
We may have to preempt their preemption.

It's going to be our fault either way.
9 posted on 08/19/2004 9:09:19 PM PDT by calenel (Peace Through Strength, and when necessary, Peace Through Victory!)
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To: teletech
How fast can you run?

Hopefully faster than an iranian jet that dares cross over Israeli air space..good one...

10 posted on 08/19/2004 9:11:49 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: nikola
"Israel has capability to intercept both their planes and missiles and Iran's attack would be a complete failure. It would, however, give a perfect backdrop for Israel's strike."

It seems to me that Iran is whistling past the grave yard. They are in the cross hairs and they know it.

11 posted on 08/19/2004 9:12:17 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: ConservativeMan55
And if they did...Iran would be no more.

Yea...Because we'll impose UN sanctions on them and make them do a food for oil program...that ought'a scare the living shit out of'em...we might even almost, but not, attack one of their cities.

12 posted on 08/19/2004 9:12:30 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: neverdem
BWHHAAAAAA!!!

Are they kidding?

I can just see the Fox News Alert

Shepard Smith: Just moments ago, Iranian soldiers launched an all-out offensive on US positions in the Middle East and....THIS JUST IN: The country of Iran has just been liberated from its tyrannical regime and Paul Bremmer is en-route to service as the Acting Authority. All Iranian forced forced that managed to survive OPERATION: Whoop-Ass, are now cowering at the feet of US Marines.

OR (Alternate and preferred Ending)

....THIS JUST IN: The country of Iran is now flat, black and smoky as a result of several inbound ICBMs. The only reported survivors were cockroaches and a few high-ranking former Iranian Government Officials.

13 posted on 08/19/2004 9:12:39 PM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: calenel

BRING IT. Israel will kick ass and Iran will be turned into one big sheet of glass. If they launch ANYTHING against our mainland, they are toasties.


14 posted on 08/19/2004 9:12:39 PM PDT by NW Baptist
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To: neverdem
Iran's defense minister, Vice Adm. Ali Shamkhani, has warned that Iran may resort to pre-emptive strikes to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities.

Well, that's our cue. Let's take 'em out now.

As I recall, Israel stepped up and took out Iraq's nuclear facilities years ago. Thank God they did, otherwise Saddam would have been a still-greater threat. I hope we can rely on them to do the same with Iran.

15 posted on 08/19/2004 9:13:45 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: nikola

Having heard this from Iran,it seems if a strike were made to take out their nuke facilities, it would also take out as many missile sites as possible, and maybe even their air force.


16 posted on 08/19/2004 9:14:06 PM PDT by ampat
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To: Heff
Shepard Smith: Just moments ago, Iranian soldiers launched an all-out offensive on US positions in the Middle East

That's about it. I gotta chuckle out of it too.

17 posted on 08/19/2004 9:15:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: neverdem

They are just trying to set us up so they can go screaming to the U.N. like children, screaming "IT ALL STARTED WHEN HE HIT ME BACK!"


18 posted on 08/19/2004 9:15:26 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: calenel

We may have to preempt their preemption.

It's going to be our fault either way.



Hell, it's always our fault.

HOWEVER, if Iran really wants to make a thing of it..... who do you think will be in the most trouble?


19 posted on 08/19/2004 9:15:37 PM PDT by Just Lori (Liberal Credo: Ignorance is diversity, and diversity is : "a good thing".)
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To: neverdem
Here's the Aug 18th version
20 posted on 08/19/2004 9:16:02 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: ampat

What would be wrong with launching a thousand ship-based missiles (ala Iraq '92) and remove every missile silo and nuclear facility in Iran?

But Kerry might object to that, citing that it isnt a gentler war...


21 posted on 08/19/2004 9:16:11 PM PDT by NW Baptist
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To: Heff
"The only reported survivors were cockroaches and a few high-ranking former Iranian Government Officials."

Kindred spirits.

22 posted on 08/19/2004 9:16:49 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: BerniesFriend

How tall are you?


23 posted on 08/19/2004 9:16:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: NW Baptist

But Kerry might object to that, citing that it isnt a gentler war...


You mean "More Sensitive", right? =)


24 posted on 08/19/2004 9:18:28 PM PDT by Just Lori (Liberal Credo: Ignorance is diversity, and diversity is : "a good thing".)
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To: lewislynn
we might even almost, but not, attack one of their cities.

Isn't threatening "an overwhelming response" good enough?

25 posted on 08/19/2004 9:20:26 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: blackbart.223
It seems to me that Iran is whistling past the grave yard. They are in the cross hairs and they know it.

True. I would think that the leaders are also having to worry about their own population rising up to throw out the theocracy. The unhappy millions of Iranians have seen the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq and many remember life before Khomeni.

26 posted on 08/19/2004 9:21:15 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Kerry: Like Gruber from McHale's Navy TV - Always after a Purple Heart)
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To: neverdem
Iran Says It May Pre-empt Attack Against Its Nuclear Facilities

Could it be they are that stupid? I wonder if there is someone in the state department whispering in their ear that we and Israel would not respond. LOL. Worked once before.

27 posted on 08/19/2004 9:21:52 PM PDT by paul51
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To: neverdem
Iran may resort to pre-emptive strikes to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities

That's a pretty open statement .. who else besides Israel do they plan on attacking??

28 posted on 08/19/2004 9:23:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: paul51

Yes, they COULD be that stupid. We are talking about Islamics here. To assume that they reason like we do is suicidal.

I would have hoped Iran would have learned from Khadafy and Lybia that we will call the bluff. Unfortunately, with Russia backing Iran, this could get messy.


29 posted on 08/19/2004 9:24:29 PM PDT by NW Baptist
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To: BunnySlippers
How tall are you?

How tall I am is none of your concern...I can take out Shaq just as iran can take out Israel and the USA...oh heck..iran should just take over the entire planet..be done with it..(end of sarcasm..:) )

30 posted on 08/19/2004 9:25:30 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: neverdem

"Go ahead...Make our day."

31 posted on 08/19/2004 9:25:34 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Havoc be upon them!)
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To: NW Baptist

Russia backing iran if they launch an attack? I think not


32 posted on 08/19/2004 9:26:17 PM PDT by paul51
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To: paul51

Better read up on it first...


33 posted on 08/19/2004 9:26:42 PM PDT by NW Baptist
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To: BerniesFriend
Hopefully faster than an iranian jet that dares cross over Israeli air space..good one...

LOL! I think the Iranians just might want to think hard before taking any action.

34 posted on 08/19/2004 9:31:57 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: Lawgvr1955
"The unhappy millions of Iranians have seen the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq and many remember life before Khomeni."

The Muslim clerics in charge of theocracy in Iran are shi**ing in there robes at this point. Count on it.

35 posted on 08/19/2004 9:33:19 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: neverdem

Let's do this.

Bring it!

Iranian officials are peein' in their burkas over the possibility that their own people might turn on them.
They're trying the divert attention routine to unite the masses against the 'Great Satan', IMO.


36 posted on 08/19/2004 9:34:10 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: NW Baptist
Iran launches missile attack vs Israel ( I know, no one is that stupid). Israel responds with a devastating missile and air attack with US approval. Russia does what?
37 posted on 08/19/2004 9:34:53 PM PDT by paul51
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To: blackbart.223

I say the vocal idiots are blufing. But Iwould like to see them try. Israel would simply eliminate them with nukes. Us... I dunno. Maybe we could just sit back, grab the popcorn and watch Israel kick ass for a change.


38 posted on 08/19/2004 9:35:18 PM PDT by NW Baptist
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To: neverdem

Preemptive strike,,,

Like Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941?


39 posted on 08/19/2004 9:37:21 PM PDT by RonHolzwarth (History repeats itself - first as tragedy, then as farce" - Karl Marx)
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To: RonHolzwarth

Dateline: Iran Leveled

Israel took turns heating things up in the former nation of Iran yesterday, lobbing nukes over the head in reaction to Iran's silly missile attack against Israel, which took out a sheep pasture 100 miles from the nuclear facility of target.


40 posted on 08/19/2004 9:39:54 PM PDT by NW Baptist
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To: ASA Vet
Isn't threatening "an overwhelming response" good enough?

We may have to get approval from the UN before we make any wholesale threats. But, it seems we prefer a lifetime of UN sanctions, resolutions and "formal protests"...

41 posted on 08/19/2004 9:39:54 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: NW Baptist
Look, ya get one of them "missing" Soviet suitcase nukes, add the Russian red mercury to it, and stick it in Iran where it
would dissuade the Mullahs that going nuclear (as in weaponry) wasn't that great of an idea.
42 posted on 08/19/2004 9:48:57 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: NW Baptist
"Us... I dunno. Maybe we could just sit back, grab the popcorn and watch Israel kick ass for a change."

Isreal has been kicking ass for quite some time. This tiny nation has held the Muslim world at bay. There is a lesson here that the rest of us should learn.

43 posted on 08/19/2004 10:02:06 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: neverdem
"If Israel fires one missile at Bushehr atomic power plant, it should permanently forget about the Dimona nuclear center, where it produces and keeps its nuclear weapons," said the commander, Gen. Mohammad Baqer Zolqadr.

Actually, should an attack of this sort take place, I'd be willing to bet that there would be quite a few nuclear weapons missing from the stockpile at Dimona, and things would be getting very bright and hot in Iran.

Mark

44 posted on 08/19/2004 10:04:19 PM PDT by MarkL (Dude!!! You're farting fire!!!!)
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To: neverdem
Re #1

They have been hanging out with N. Koreans so long that they now talk like N. Koreans. Hello, Democratic People's Republic of Iran!:)

45 posted on 08/19/2004 10:49:46 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: neverdem

and allah thinks that there has been a run on virgins lately . . . wait until they try that one.


46 posted on 08/19/2004 11:21:32 PM PDT by smonk
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To: neverdem
...Israel would not carry out such an attack without a green light from the United States.

Israel no more needs our permission than we need France's!

47 posted on 08/19/2004 11:43:48 PM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
And if they did...Iran would be no more.

They are thinking "Goliath" without reading the story.

The free world against Iran....or even the whole of the "Axis of Evil" doesn't take much to consider the outcome of their glorious battle!

48 posted on 08/20/2004 12:05:26 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: neverdem
Here's a poll to Freep!
49 posted on 08/20/2004 2:32:43 AM PDT by fuzzy122
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To: neverdem

(sniff)

Anyone else smell that?!

Smell's like burning mullahs...


50 posted on 08/20/2004 2:33:42 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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