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Posted on 08/20/2004 8:01:00 AM PDT by kattracks
(CNSNews.com) - The Bush campaign has suggested that Sen. John Kerry join President Bush in calling off the dogs -- those "shadowy" 527 groups that run ads for and against Bush and Kerry.The liberal group MoveOn.org and the anti-Kerry group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are both 527s, named after a section of the tax code.
But on Friday, a spokeswoman for the Kerry campaign backed away from the suggestion. She said what MoveOn.org is doing is perfectly fine, while what the Swift Boat Veterans are doing is "dishonest" and "dishonorable."
Debra Deshong of the Kerry campaign told Fox News there's a difference between MoveOn.org and Swift Boat Veterans for Truth: "MoveOn.org is an independent organization that existed well before the Kerry campaign," she said, whereas Swift Boat Veterans for Truth "is not an independent group."
Deshong invoked Friday's New York Times article as proof: "And in today's New York Times, it details exactly all the ties this group (Swift Boat Veterans for Truth) has to the Bush White House."
Deshong condemned Bush for not telling Swift Boat Veterans for Truth to stop running their ad. (Swift Boats say it wouldn't matter what Bush said -- see related story)
"Again, we (the Kerry campaign) have nothing to do with these independent ads, like MoveOn.org. That is an independent organization that existed well before the Kerry campaign. They have every right to be running what they are under the campaign finance laws." According to Deshong, "This is about the Swift Boat Vets that are running dishonorable ads that Bush refuses to condemn."
What about the barrage of 527 ads thrown at President Bush? a Bush campaign spokeswoman asked on Friday.
"The fact is, not only has this president had over $62 million dollars spent attacking him by these shadowy groups, but let's not forget about Michael Moore's movie," said Bush campaign spokeswoman Jennifer Millerwise, also speaking on Fox News. She noted that for weeks, Americans could "hardly turn on a TV" without seeing Michael Moore "launch unbelievable attacks on this president."
Millerwise said the Bush campaign would rather focus on the major issues -- including Sen. Kerry's spotty attendance at Senate Intelligence Committee hearings.
All this Kerry spinning is making my head spin.
Right after the first Swift vets ad appeared the president called for ALL 527 groups to ease up. John Kerry just wants the swift vets to stop.
Regards, Ivan
Hey Dems, you made it, you eat it. Enjoy!
Actually, it was the Republicans that tried to get the courts to block these 527's earlier this year. It was the Democrats that fought in favor of them.
It was fine until the attacks turned against the Democrat candidate.
Yes, there is a difference between Moveon.org and the SwiftVets. The SwiftVets are telling the truth. The limo liberals want to quash free speech if it doesn't fit their agenda.
I heard the Kerry campaign people spinning this.
Their basis for their claim is that MoveOn is older than Kerry's primary victory, and SVFT is new. Then they point at the funding.
The fact that funding between MoveOn and SVFT show the same party line partisanship, with Soros for the Dems, and Perry for the Repubs. Also, the discrepancies between the level of funding of the two groups is ignored by the Kerry campaign spinmeisters. $170 million to MoveOn, compared to much less than a million yet raised by SVFT. And the discrepancy is even greater if you consider that Soros has so far donated at least $5 million, whereas, Perry has donated somewhere in the area of $200k.
So, the Dems are employing the tactic that assumes the American voting public is stupid, and they are throwing crap up as fast as they can and hoping that it sticks.
If you think that is something...go check Drudge out Kerry wants the publisher to pull the book...akin to a real BOOK BAN...
Keep the story alive, Kerry! :) Hire Joe Lockhart, claim Bush is behind the ads, etc. etc. Keep talking endlessly about Vietnam in this world of Al Qaeda, a growing economy, Iraq, etc.
Living in the past is such a GREAT way of winning the presidency.
>>>> Right after the first Swift vets ad appeared the president called for ALL 527 groups to ease up. John Kerry just wants the swift vets to stop.
It was a good move by the President.
If all 527's, including moveon, get shut down, the libs will only have Air America in a few markets to spew their hate. Meanwhile, the swifties television ads would be lost too but they only air in a couple markets, and Rush and Hannity will be able to continue to get the word out nationwide on what they are alleging.
KERRY = T-O-A-S-T
Good response from Bush's people so far. I disagree with them that all 527's or anyone else should not speak. But at least they apply their rules to everyone. I say let everyone say whatever they want to say. Let the voters beware just like buyers beware. It's our responsibility to sort it out before we vote.
I saw this on FOX. Couldn't believe she sat there and said what she did with a straight face.
the scary thing about the boomer democrats is that they are totalitarians.
Oh, yesss! Kerry is digging deeper and deeper. People are starting to see what a slimebucket Kerry is the more his campaign shows his hypocrisy.
Millerwise said the Bush campaign would rather focus on the major issues -- including Sen. Kerry's spotty attendance at Senate Intelligence Committee hearings.Hear, hear.
Again, I find myself flashing back to the (always disturbing) image of Michael Moore, seated next to Pres. Carter at the DNC convention.
Don't think you well see O'Neill at the Republican convention, though.
well = will
But, using the "nuts and sluts" approach will backfire bigtime.
Americans hate hypocrites. Landslide comin down, Nov 2.
In other words: "Hypocrisy is fine! It's the cornerstone of the Kerry Campaign".
Good Grief! Do they really think that they can get away with that???
They are counting a LOT on their base...the MSM.
Bump to read the rest later.
"Four legs good! Two legs BETTER!"
I believe a certain fascist regime BANNED BOOKS and BURNED them. Was it not so?
Essentially the argument is: "Thw Swiftboat Veterans are funded by a TEXAS REPUBLICAN."
"'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,' Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton tells the online mag... Developing..."
What an absolute scream.
Row after row of slime anti-Bush books, filled with falsehoods, in the stores, but that's perfectly fine.
But don't touch one hair on the head of sKerry.
According to the WP article, "The dispute is unlikely to end soon. John O'Neill, a member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and author of the anti-Kerry book "Unfit for Command," said the group raised nearly $500,000 from 10,000 donors in recent days."
I'm not from Texas.
It doesn't matter.
One of the original, main donors is a Texas Republican.
Ergo, because the group is funded by a Texas Republican, John Kerry is innocent of the claims made against him.
(Read my tagline)
AND a FLORIDA REPUBLICAN!! I'm sending all my GOP donations to the Swift Boat Vets now. They're the only ones with B*LLS enough to call Kerry the lier that he is.
Can't believe I just said the B word - that's what the RATS have done to this 66 year old Grandma! I'm a RAT victim!!
At first I couldn't believe my ears. Then I realized "this is nothing new ... the Kerry campaign is the master of hypocrisy." What was even more amazing is that she used the NYT's article to support her claim ... an article which SHOULD be an Editorial. I couldn't believe it. But ... then ... I can. I don't put any EVIL past these people. They are monsters. The NYT and the rest of the MSM should be stripped of their Press Credentials and subjected to Campaign Finance Laws ... think of the BILLIONS of dollars of advertising that all the media's news reports would cost if they were "ad time." Think about the NYT. How much would that hit-piece today have cost if it were an ad???
All Freepers check out the new swift boat ad.
If this doesn't move you, I'm questioning your patriotism.
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video2.html
THe announcer says "there were two men" than goes on tho tell Kerrys "heroic" service , than slams GW's service. It is a MINUTE LONG...BIG BUCKS thanks to Soros (sp?)
I spit my coffee out this morning when one of these nitwits
said that President Bush should stop the SwiftVets' ad, but Kerry "had no control" over MoveOn.org's advertising. What a bunch of wackos.
When I was a child, we used to taunt each other with: "You can dish it out, but you can't take it -- nanner, nanner, nanner." That is my response to those intellectural giants defening MoveOn.org and calling for the Swift Vets to be silenced, all in the same breath.
Yes, there is a difference between Moveon.org and the SwiftVets. The SwiftVets are telling the truth. The limo liberals want to quash free speech if it doesn't fit their agenda.
You are sooo right.
you go grandmother.
we need more people mad enough to say things that we normally wouldn't do in mixed company.
and yes in this ol conservative chivilry still lives.
and mixed company decorum is a must. AKA values!!!!!!!!
Thanks -- I live in beautiful Cocoa Beach with some other retired folks - good people. BUT, they've gotten to the point they're afraid to talk politics to me 'cause I don't take any prisoners AND they'd better agree with ME!! LOL - hope I'm helping Bush rather than driving people away!!
Looks like the f'ing kerry campaign is getting desperate. The big blowtorch is starting to get hot now. Here are three threads that are very interesting.
KERRY CAMPAIGN CALLS FOR BOOK BAN
*****HUMAN EVENTS FIRST-RUN EXCLUSIVE*****: POWs Join Swift Boat Vets in
Kerry Hires Joe Lockhart to Combat Swift Boat Veterans
Debra Deshong of the Kerry campaign is a lying political whore.
LOL! There must be some sort of compensation out there for that!
Flash traffic. Confidence is high; I repeat; confidence IS high.
Let's face it, though. John Kerry could have done at least the following things:
---taken the Americans hostage in Iran;
---tried to assassinate President Reagan;
---blown up the Challenger;
---tried to assassinate President Bush 41;
---bombed the World Trade Center;
---blown up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City
---killed our forces in Mogadishu, Somalia, Kosovo, et. al;
---had sex with an intern;
---planned the attacks of 9-11
and he would still get at least 35% of the vote on November 2, for the simple reason that he's not (PRESIDENT) Bush.
Ivan, you nailed it!
Bring out the butter and the jelly...
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