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Some of the world’s greatest scientific minds tell us what they love—and hate—about Einstein
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Posted on 08/20/2004 9:43:04 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: coconutt2000
These physicists, Einstein included, have an overblown sense of their intellectual powers. They think they can understand how our Universe works. They will only ever be able to understand a small fragment of it.
To: PatrickHenry
If Einstein has had a negative influence on anything, it's that the physics community since his time has teneded to lean left on most issues, largely because they have looked up to him on everything else. That and the Oppenheimer case has led a lot of otherwise bright minds to advocate some of the most dunderheaded policy positions imaginable.
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08/20/2004 10:51:28 AM PDT
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RightWingAtheist
(<A HREF=http://www.michaelmoore.com>stupid blob</A>)
To: djf
Denis Weaire wrote an article about the physics of missing socks years ago. What is it about Irish physicists and foot garments?-)
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08/20/2004 10:53:47 AM PDT
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RightWingAtheist
(<A HREF=http://www.michaelmoore.com>stupid blob</A>)
To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
They think they can understand how our Universe works. They have known for 50 years that relativity and quantum mechanics are incompatible. They hope that superstring theory can be of some help, but probably no one thinks they will ever understand ultimately what the structure of the Universe might be, or if that is even the right question.
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posted on
08/20/2004 10:56:42 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
To: All
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posted on
08/20/2004 11:01:35 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(If I never respond to you, maybe it's because I think you're an idiot.)
To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; RightWingAtheist; PatrickHenry; Physicist; hopespringseternal
Case in point, Helen Caldicott.
Blecchh!
UNION OF CONCERNED LIBERAL SCIENTIFIC SISSY BOYS
-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)
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08/20/2004 11:10:50 AM PDT
by
The Scourge of Yazid
("And then they invented 'New Coke.' Or, as I like to call it, "syrupy piss-water.")
To: PatrickHenry
A picture circa 1912:
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posted on
08/20/2004 11:14:55 AM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: RightWingAtheist; Doctor Stochastic; Happygal
Archetypal Irish physicist: Aye, we be a strange lot, laddie boy. I tink it's de Guinness.
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08/20/2004 11:18:23 AM PDT
by
The Scourge of Yazid
("And then they invented 'New Coke.' Or, as I like to call it, "syrupy piss-water.")
To: ConsistentLibertarian
"He seemed to consider working out the details of the atom and its nucleus more as busywork than as fundamental science."
Google: INTP As a hardcore ENTP, I know where he's coming from. Paperwork...can't the clerks do that?
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posted on
08/20/2004 11:25:16 AM PDT
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Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
These physicists, Einstein included, have an overblown sense of their intellectual powers. They think they can understand how our Universe works. They will only ever be able to understand a small fragment of it.On the contrary, we physicists understand much better than laymen how little--or how much--is understood, because we know where the boundaries lie.
It turns out that fundamental questions of how space and time behave are comparatively simple and knowable, and if our answers aren't truly complete, they are very nearly so. Questions such as "how does water flow" or "how do protein molecules get their shapes" or "how do bumblebees keep aloft" or "how does a carburetor do what it does", now, those are hard questions.
To: Oberon
Surly civil servant: Hey pal, what da hell do I look like, some kinda butlah or sometin'?(!) Friggin' clerk. Gimme a friggin' break. Sheesh! Deez people.
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posted on
08/20/2004 11:30:12 AM PDT
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The Scourge of Yazid
("And then they invented 'New Coke.' Or as I like to call it, "syrupy piss-water.")
To: The Scourge of Yazid
Hey pal, what da hell do I look like, some kinda butlah or sometin'?(!) Friggin' clerk. Gimme a friggin' break. Sheesh! Deez people. Hey, I never said it was right...I just said I understood! =]
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08/20/2004 11:38:50 AM PDT
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: djf
The implication being he had stumbled on something that outmoded his theory, or simply showed it to be a specialized subset of something bigger.Maybe he just recognized that he didn't understand the universe, after all.
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08/20/2004 11:40:34 AM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: RightWingAtheist
I just finished reading a book titled "How the Laser Happened" by Charles H. Townes. Townes was the inventor of the Maser (Microwave Amplified Stimulated Emission Radiation) in 1954 and along with his brother-in-law Art Schawlow was awarded the first patent for the Laser (or optical Maser aka Light Amplified ...) in 1959. He was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1961 for this work. By the way, Townes is still alive at 89 years old.
In his book, Townes mentions that Einstein was the first to conceive of Stimulated Emissions in 1917 and in retrospect was very curious that it took so long (1954 and 1959) for his theory to be realized.
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08/20/2004 11:41:20 AM PDT
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tang-soo
(Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
To: RightWingAtheist
LOL!
Well at least they talk about socks and not underwear...
Maybe there's a sock shortage there.
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posted on
08/20/2004 11:43:26 AM PDT
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djf
To: djf; Physicist
The Lucasian(sp?) chair at Cambridge? I'm wrong, I think that's Horton.
No, it's Hawking.
To: longshadow
You are correct. Not sure what Conway (Horton) is doing these days. He certainly revolutionized mathematics.
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posted on
08/20/2004 11:48:32 AM PDT
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djf
To: djf; longshadow
The Lucasian(sp?) chair at Cambridge? By "occupying the Siege Perilous", I meant to say that they're both dead.
I'm wrong, I think that's Horton.
Who?
To: RightWingAtheist
What still drives me crazy about Einstein is that he did not participate in the scientific revolution he helped launch. His successful theory of the photoelectric effect was a key step in establishing the correctness of quantum mechanics.That's because he knew that QM was/is a hack.
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08/20/2004 11:52:39 AM PDT
by
mikegi
To: Physicist
John Horton Conway, mathematician. He invented the game of Life, a set of rules for two-dimensional automatons, that take on a life of their own.
He has succesfully proved that there are a limited number of problems in math.. I think the number he came up with is 19.
Thats all there is. Every math problem is one of the 19 types.
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08/20/2004 11:57:22 AM PDT
by
djf
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