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Illinois Governor vetoes protection for homeowners with handguns
WQAD-TV ^ | 8/20/2004 | AP

Posted on 08/20/2004 5:29:19 PM PDT by concentric circles

SPRINGFIELD -- Gov. Rod Blagojevich vetoed a bill Friday meant to provide legal protection for homeowners who violate local gun ordinances by shooting intruders.

The legislation was a response to the heavily publicized case of Hale DeMar, a Wilmette restaurant owner who in December shot a burglar who had broken into his home twice.

Cook County prosecutors declined to press criminal charges against DeMar, but Wilmette officials charged him with violating the suburb's ban on handguns. DeMar is challenging the constitutionality of the ordinance.

The bill the governor vetoed Friday would have allowed people in situations like DeMar's to argue self-defense if charged with violating such an ordinance. It would not have guaranteed the defendant wouldn't be convicted.

Blagojevich said he vetoed the measure because he believed it would encourage people in cities such as Wilmette to buy handguns and hide them.

The measure could still become law. It passed both houses of the General Assembly by large enough margins that similar votes in this fall's veto session could override the governor's action.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; blagojevich; demar; illinois; secondammendment
The burglar and his bullet holes were just sentenced to seven years. DeMar ended a months long crime wave that the local police had been helpless to stop.

The Governor believes that the citizens' role is to do the bidding of the state rather than the state serving at the behest of the citizens. The legislature must now do it's duty.

1 posted on 08/20/2004 5:29:20 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles

What's a Blagojevich?


2 posted on 08/20/2004 5:31:56 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ( Election day: FOUR Supreme Court Justices! Enough said.)
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To: concentric circles

Unbelievable. These politicians need to be recalled and dumped in the lake with cement shoes.


3 posted on 08/20/2004 5:32:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: concentric circles

Here in the Peoples Republik of Illinois our "Governor" protects criminals.


4 posted on 08/20/2004 5:33:31 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: concentric circles
Blagojevich is nothing but a puppet of Daley's anyway.

I'm surprised that the Cook County DA isn't pressing charges against DeMar.

5 posted on 08/20/2004 5:35:09 PM PDT by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: concentric circles
You can't even own a handgun in the burbs? What about rifles and shotguns?

If that is the case, are you allowed to go "medieval" on an intruder?

7 posted on 08/20/2004 5:39:00 PM PDT by dc27
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To: Finalapproach29er; All

He was the straight man to for Slobodan Milosevic. They worked the old Cook Country vaudeville circuit, billed as Ron n Sloboda.


8 posted on 08/20/2004 5:39:17 PM PDT by olde north church
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To: teletech

"Here in the Peoples Republik of Illinois our "Governor" protects criminals."


Isn't that also known as the criminals have the elected officials in their back pocket$. Looks like the roaring 1920's are making a come back to Illinois. Time for the decent law abiding, tax paying citizens need to kick some butt.



9 posted on 08/20/2004 5:40:02 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: concentric circles
This would be a good chance to try counter suing the city for something that I can't quite put into words...

I know that the SCOTUS has ruled that the police are NOT obligated to protect individuals, however, given the fact that DeMar was burglarized in the past, the city should have known that he could very well become a victim again. And by the city banning a way of protecting himself and his family, the city was obligated to provide that protection.

I know that this would get thrown out of court, but it still really pissed me off!

Mark

10 posted on 08/20/2004 5:41:39 PM PDT by MarkL (Dude!!! You're farting fire!!!!)
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To: concentric circles
Screw the Governor. If someone is breaking into my home at 3am they're going to be greeted with a hail of bullets from a Glock 9mm. Period. I'd rather roll the dice and take a chance with the legal system than to wind up DEAD, and have my wife and son grieve for me while the Keystone Kops scribble some notes on a pad and promise to catch the killer when their next stop is Krispy Kreme.

Gunowners need to realize that the 2nd Amendment is non-negotiable. Politicians DO NOT have a say over defending your lives.

11 posted on 08/20/2004 5:42:44 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg
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To: SunnySide
Time for the decent law abiding, tax paying citizens need to kick some butt.

It'll never happen. Illinois is in the same boat as New York state and California is. Socialist Dems control the statehouses while the helpless, power-hungry RINOs with no balls stand by and do nothing.

People become used to paying taxes and such, they don't give a feces about their rights just as long as someone else is footing the bill for them.

12 posted on 08/20/2004 5:46:17 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: concentric circles

I happen to agree with the governor that the homeowners should not be encouraged to buy handguns and hide them.

They should buy them and USE them!

Pre-empt local jurisdictions, and pass a state-wide CCW measure, like civilized states have done.

ITMT, maybe if DeMar had used a 12 ga shotgun & buck or slugs, there would not have been the necessity of an expensive trial.


13 posted on 08/20/2004 5:46:34 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: SunnySide
Isn't that also known as the criminals have the elected officials in their back pocket$. Looks like the roaring 1920's are making a come back to Illinois. Time for the decent law abiding, tax paying citizens need to kick some butt.

Da Mayor of Da City of Chicaaago runs Gov. Blago by pulling his strings.

14 posted on 08/20/2004 5:47:20 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: Finalapproach29er
What's a Blagojevich?

It's an Illinois version of a Lewinsky ;-)

15 posted on 08/20/2004 5:48:27 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Not sure, sounds a lot like a Rostencowski to me.


16 posted on 08/20/2004 5:50:57 PM PDT by Ladysmith (Morality anchored to the 'definitions' of man is not anchored at all. - Petronski)
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To: dc27
...What about rifles and shotguns?

The village only outlaws possession of handguns. DeMar could have blown the burglar to smithereens with buckshot and allowed God to complete the miscreant's education. As it is, DeMar's weapon of choice makes him a criminal.

17 posted on 08/20/2004 5:54:05 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: MarkL

I also thought that SOTUS not only ruled that the police are not obligated to protect an individual, but also ruled in numerous cases that "what people do in the 'privacy of their bedroom' was NOT the government's business."

Add violation of privacy to your hypoteticalo suit.

If Texans can have illegal dildoes, Illinoisans should be able to have illegal handguns.

It is an apples/oranges case, I know; but it is the type of anaolgy that passes for logic in many successful lawsuits these days.

You never know until you "try", "try", and if necessary, appeal to "try" yet again, like Brady & HGCinc etc do.


18 posted on 08/20/2004 5:56:40 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: concentric circles

Was the logic used to pass this law, "you'll be safer without all those dangerous handguns in the village?"


19 posted on 08/20/2004 6:00:12 PM PDT by dc27
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To: ApplegateRanch

hypoteticalo = tpyohypoglossical for "hypothetical".

(Can I blame the 'Kitten on the Keys'? Thought not. Oh, well.)


20 posted on 08/20/2004 6:03:09 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Impeach or recall that POS, he must be pro-criminal. Maybe one of his constituents will break into his house and show him no mercy.I presume he is from a third world country where sanity has been banished. I think the legitimate answer to what's a, (must be a fool or madman.)


21 posted on 08/20/2004 6:14:48 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic")
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To: Finalapproach29er
What's a Blagojevich

I think it's Martian for gasbag.

22 posted on 08/20/2004 6:15:41 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: concentric circles

Rod Blagojevich is just where Illinois is today. Its Rat infested. And of course to get re-elected, he needs the support of the Daley Machine in Chicago. This is his payment to them.


23 posted on 08/20/2004 6:17:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Rod Blagojevich is just where Illinois is today.

Don't be so hard on "One Term Rod". No man has done more to remove the memory of George Ryan than Rod Baby.

Thank goodness I live in the Southern Illinois where guns are still legal.

24 posted on 08/20/2004 6:34:15 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Kerry: Like Gruber from McHale's Navy TV - Always after a Purple Heart)
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To: Lawgvr1955
George Ryan is the guy who made me vote for a Democrat for the first time in 20 years.

Being an Illinois Republican is a lot like being in a slow motion train wreck with no way to escape.

L

25 posted on 08/20/2004 6:50:02 PM PDT by Lurker ( Rope, tree, liberal. Adult assembly required.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I'm glad I don't live in Illinois these days. Wow.

BTW: You're right, Reagan was the best. He could explain conservatism in way his successer can't. I miss him.


26 posted on 08/20/2004 8:17:07 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ( Election day: FOUR Supreme Court Justices! Enough said.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I'm glad I don't live in Illinois these days. Wow.

BTW: You're right, Reagan was the best. He could explain conservatism in way his successer can't. I miss him.


27 posted on 08/20/2004 8:17:49 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ( Election day: FOUR Supreme Court Justices! Enough said.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
I'm glad I don't live in Illinois these days.

NY isn't much better, this state's governor despises the Second Amendment almost as much as Blagojevich.

28 posted on 08/20/2004 8:29:05 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: concentric circles
DeMar isn't exactly the best poster-child for the ISRA, he wasn't only charged with violating the Wilmette law, but also for failing to renew his Illinois State FOID, which can be punished by up to a year in jail.

dc27 wrote:

...What about rifles and shotguns?

concentric circles writes:
The village only outlaws possession of handguns. DeMar could have blown the burglar to smithereens with buckshot and allowed God to complete the miscreant's education. As it is, DeMar's weapon of choice makes him a criminal.
Hopefully DeMar has learned his lesson from this little incident -- the $750 fine and losing his pistol makes it an expensive lesson.

If he's smart, DeMar's next automatic will be by Benelli.

29 posted on 08/20/2004 10:53:35 PM PDT by Nonesuch
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To: ServesURight

"It'll never happen. Illinois is in the same boat as New York state and California is. Socialist Dems control the statehouses while the helpless, power-hungry RINOs with no balls stand by and do nothing.

People become used to paying taxes and such, they don't give a feces about their rights just as long as someone else is footing the bill for them."

You said it.


30 posted on 08/20/2004 11:23:15 PM PDT by Gigantor (Por favor, mantengase alejado de las puertas...)
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To: Finalapproach29er
What's a Blagojevich?

A gun grabbing cretin in thrall to Hizzonor Daley. I think of him as "Blag The Impaler".

31 posted on 08/21/2004 10:30:12 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Nonesuch
DeMar isn't exactly the best poster-child for the ISRA, he wasn't only charged with violating the Wilmette law, but also for failing to renew his Illinois State FOID, which can be punished by up to a year in jail.

The statutes regarding firearm and ammo purchases require a current and unexpired FOID card. The statutes regarding transportation of firearms that are not disassembled require a current and unexpired FOID card. The 'basic' possession statute, however--the only one that would be applicable in this case--merely requires a FOID card formerly issued by the State Police. I don't know if the issue has been brought up in court, but the difference in wording is quite apparent and should be significant.

32 posted on 08/21/2004 11:43:58 AM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: El Gato

LOL.


33 posted on 08/21/2004 3:20:57 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ( Election day: FOUR Supreme Court Justices! Enough said.)
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