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Kerry touts his economic plan ("go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich")
Bradenton Herald ^ | 8/21/04 | GROMER JEFFERS JR.

Posted on 08/21/2004 1:28:53 AM PDT by Libloather

Kerry touts his economic plan in North Carolina
GROMER JEFFERS JR.
Knight Ridder Tribune News Service
Posted on Sat, Aug. 21, 2004

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - Peter Offnick, a former Vietnam veteran who says his job was outsourced to Mexico, is the kind of voter John Kerry hopes to attract.

"I was quite disappointed," said the 60-year-old factory worker from Charlotte, who lost his job after 30 years. "I wasn't sure what I was going to do."

Offnick was one of several laid-off workers who met with Kerry on Friday in Charlotte.

The Massachusetts senator has made employment, heath care and economic growth major components of his campaign in hopes of taking advantage of the job losses and sagging economy during the Bush administration.

But President Bush easily carried North Carolina, the home of Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards, in 2000.

Even so, Kerry hopes the state's crippled textile industry and job losses - that he estimated at 162,000 - would steer residents toward Democrats.

Friday marked his second campaign visit to the state, and he pinned the blame for job losses on President Bush's policies.

"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich and we grew the economy," Kerry told a packed gymnasium at the Central Piedmont Community College, where workers like Offnick are being retrained. He touted a plan that he says would provide health care for most Americans, restore jobs and energize the economy.

Among other things, Kerry said he would "end tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas," create a new jobs tax credit and cut corporate taxes.

"To be strong at home," he said, "you have to put people back to work."

The Bush-Cheney campaign said Kerry's attempts to put the blame for outsourcing on the president are overstated.

"The reality is Kerry has voted 98 times for job-killing tax increases, and at least 40 of his business supporters are outsourcing while Kerry misleadingly claims to be against it," campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said in a written statement.

After leaving Charlotte, Kerry flew to hurricane-ravaged southwest Florida, where he met with emergency workers and storm victims. Florida Sen. Bill Nelson accompanied him.

Kerry received a 15-minute briefing in Punta Gorda, where authorities have set up an emergency operations center.

"This is very inspirational," he told one worker. "Thank you, man. You're doing a great job."


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"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich and we grew the economy,"

My question - if the *Crinton plan was SO great, why did it end in recession?

1 posted on 08/21/2004 1:28:54 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

What an idiot. Clinton will win him votes in the South? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


2 posted on 08/21/2004 1:30:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Howlin; Liz; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Mudboy Slim
"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich..."

Are we supposed to stop hating the rich now?

3 posted on 08/21/2004 1:30:21 AM PDT by Libloather (What did Bergler stow - and when did he stow it?)
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To: Libloather
"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich, widowed wives."
4 posted on 08/21/2004 1:47:05 AM PDT by swilhelm73 (I WILL VOTE FOR GEORGE W. BUSH INSTEAD OF JOHN KERRY because I still believe in the rule of law)
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To: Libloather
"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich and we grew the economy,"

I thought Kerry hated the rich. I thought the rich weren't being taxed enough and didn't pay their fair share. I thought all of Bush's friends were rich. I thought the Iraq War was fought solely to line the pockets of the rich. I thought rich people didn't understand the plight of the average person or little person or whatever you're calling it this week. I thought there were two Americas and that the rich in the first America were screwing everyone over in the Second America.

5 posted on 08/21/2004 1:47:49 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Libloather

Yep, back to the good old days of the Enron, Worldcom, Global Crossing, and MCI frauds that thrived under clintion and were prosecuted under GWB.


6 posted on 08/21/2004 2:06:08 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
Not to mention naive venture capitalists who were easily suckered by slick dot com marketing pukes. The hordes of naive investors who threw money at an IPO in hopes of catching a quick return on the hype. It was all insubstantial vaporware. When the hype was gone, so was the money. The "pump and dump" fraudmeisters in the executive offices took their looter's prize and moved on to another company.

Venture capital has moved offshore. The fraudulent accounting practices that fueled meteoric stock price increases are watched with a jaundiced eye by the SEC now. The massive amounts of money thrown at the stock market was a consequence of falling interest rates and the need for employees to find a suitably high return investment for retirement. The days of a company retirement pension have come and gone. Sadly, much of that money was poured into fraudulent businesses. The retirement nest eggs evaporated from corporate boardroom lies and slick work by the accountants.

7 posted on 08/21/2004 2:27:36 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Nah, Kerry LOVES the rich -- they're the ones whose taxes he wants to raise (while protecting the middle class, of course) while growing the GOVERNMENT.

And when everybody's rich --- at least according to gov't economist wonks --- everybody gets soaked, leaving three people in Upper Preet, Arkansa, as the entire middle class.

Woo hoo!!!! Money, money, money!!!


8 posted on 08/21/2004 3:17:35 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Had a bellyfull already and still swallowing by the quart...)
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To: Libloather
My question - if the *Crinton plan was SO great, why did it end in recession?

My answer: when the scammers amassing millions realized that with Algore was their candidate, they knew the jig was up and that the adults were coming to Washington. That's what caused the bubble to burst in Mid-year 2000.

9 posted on 08/21/2004 3:30:18 AM PDT by woofer
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To: Libloather

Yes the great Clinton economic record....when Nasdaq crashed. The truth is both parties will claim credit for economic events that are beyond their control. At least the Republicans occasionally pass tax-cut legislation that lets people keep some of their money before it gets flushed down the various government ratholes. With Kerry and Dems in control, we can count on more of our money being wasted...and more corporations relocating overseas. Kerry should be honest enough to tell voters that he won't be able to stop that.


10 posted on 08/21/2004 4:40:40 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Libloather

"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich"...

People like Ken Lay, terry mcawful, Global Crossing, Enron Board etc etc etc???

LLS


11 posted on 08/21/2004 5:12:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Yeah, what CHENEY said"!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

OKay, so what was it that Clinton did that created the economic boom? Did he invent the faster microprocessor that helped drive the PC market? Did he help code Windows, Linix, Sybase and the other applications that helped drive the information explosion? Did he create better manufacturing processes, did he consume the inventory causing more to be manufactured?(excluding possibly condoms) Did he do anything to increase food production?

So exactly what did he do exect hold office while the American people busted there humps getting the above list and more accomplished with no help from Clinton.


12 posted on 08/21/2004 5:48:16 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Libloather
"The reality is Kerry has voted 98 times for job-killing tax increases, and at least 40 of his business supporters are outsourcing while Kerry misleadingly claims to be against it," campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said in a written statement."

Good to see Dubyuh's RapidResponseTeam is on the job...fact is, Kerry's got NO PLAN WHATSOEVER to grow the economy. He really is a weak, ineffectual man with very little to offer the Country.

Kerry's TOAST...MUD

13 posted on 08/21/2004 5:49:21 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Libloather
"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich and we grew the economy."

This is a great line with some strategic truth to it. While both parties play games with the economy through their pograms and the influence of the Fed, the Dems are a lot more cynical about it. Over the past several administrations--back to the days of Ford and Carter, both in the area of the economy and in the area of military preparedness, the Dems inherit a relatively good situation and spend it down. They overstimulate the economy and they run down the military, leaving it to the next administration--usually Republican--to rebuild.

Some exceptions to that rule: LBJ did both "guns and butter," which ushered in the stagflation of the 70's. It may be that GWB's combination of compassionate conservatism and the need to prosecute the War on Terror does the same thing and leads to stagflation over the next decade.

Also worth noting: Carter, incompetent in every sphere, so overstimulated the economy through the FED that stagflation got dangerously close to runaway inflation. Reagan had to clean that mess up with a high interest rate, overvalued dollar policy, which led to some other problems, like speeding up deindustrialization of US manufacturing by making it more competitive to manufacture overseas.

14 posted on 08/21/2004 5:53:14 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Libloather

I seem to recall Clinton characterizing Reagan's terms as the "Decade of Greed". I guess it's ok to get rich if you're a Democrat.


15 posted on 08/21/2004 7:17:59 AM PDT by afz400
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To: DJ Frisat
Nah, Kerry LOVES the rich ...

He's never married any other kind.

16 posted on 08/21/2004 7:20:51 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Dutch Boy

My friend, you miss-interpreted my post. klintoon never did anything (maybe signing welfare reform in an a$$ saving move) to improve the economy. He did much to hurt it, however.

LLS


17 posted on 08/21/2004 7:42:22 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Yeah, what CHENEY said"!)
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To: Libloather

"We need to go back where we were with Bill Clinton, when people got rich and we grew the economy,"


But when the GET rich, then we're supposed to confiscate their income so that they can't invest in a new company and create more jobs. (Sarcasm)

Such circular reasoning as the Dems exhibit is ludicrous. Most small business owners fall in the income group they say they'll tax heavily--small business owners who now are having a hard time providing health insurance benefits, etc.


18 posted on 08/21/2004 7:59:19 AM PDT by loveliberty2 (.)
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To: Libloather
Clinton's economic plan wasn't good. He was just good at cooking the numbers and getting the media to lie. Notice there are only homeless when Republicans are in office.



"We're going to take things away from you
on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Rodham Clinton
(July 26, 2004, NY Daily News)




Click here to check out my web site dedicated to exposing Hillary.


19 posted on 08/21/2004 8:13:52 AM PDT by christie (http://www.hillaryforpresident-2008.com -- NOT!)
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To: Libloather

Hey, Kerry, when you're heading back to the future and you meet someone going into the past --- it's best to avoid eye contact.


20 posted on 08/21/2004 8:21:38 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: Myrddin; Dutch Boy; driftless
I thought your replies were very good and hope that you don't mind that I used some of it to write a letter to the editor of my newspaper today.
21 posted on 08/21/2004 9:55:24 AM PDT by ~Vor~ (Give monthly to FR...it's cheaper & much better than that liberal rag delivered to your door!)
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To: ~Vor~

Don't forget Black Tuesday! (Happened right around the time Reno was successful suing Microsoft...)


22 posted on 08/21/2004 4:09:26 PM PDT by Libloather (What did Bergler stow - and when did he stow it?)
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