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Hanoi T-shirt sales funding campaign
World Net Daily ^ | August 21, 2004

Posted on 08/21/2004 1:18:05 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Presidential candidate John Kerry can count on the support of at least one group of Vietnam Veterans – and they're still in Vietnam.

Following Kerry's denunciation of the ad by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, criticizing him for exaggerating his war record, a group of former U.S. soldiers gathered in Hanoi to express their support for Kerry and to call President Bush a "draft dodger" for his service in the Texas Air National Guard during the war. And they were selling T-shirts to tourists to raise money for Kerry's campaign.

The $5 shirts sport a picture of President Bush with a line crossed through it and have "Americans Overseas for Kerry" emblazoned across the front. The proceeds are earmarked for donation to the Kerry campaign.

"The first day they came in, we had a stack at a cafe and were examining them, and four Japanese tourists asked if they could buy them," said Chuck Searcy, an Athens, Georgia, veteran who served in Vietnam for one year.

Searcy, who has lived and worked in Vietnam for nine years, is a representative of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund.

"It's an effort on the part of a few of us to bring some attention to Kerry's war record to counter some of the allegations and some of the lies being made of his service in Vietnam," he told Reuters.

Searcy said arrangements for printing the shirts were made by Larry Holzman, a Hanoi-based American who runs DTK International, a non-profit organization that markets condoms and contraceptives in Vietnam.

"We had very serious disagreements among ourselves about the war," Searcy told Associated Press in criticism of the ads, "but the creed was that we never spoke ill of another veteran. That ethic has been violated in this election, and it's pretty shameful."

The Swift Boat Veterans would probably agree. In their second ad, a young John Kerry appears on behalf of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April 1971, testifying that his fellow troops in Vietnam "had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

According to the May 19, 1997, Viet Nam News, Searcy was part of a contingent of former members of VVAW, who came to Hanoi to honor Ho Chi Minh and to mark the 30th anniversary of VVAW's founding which fell on the North Vietnamese communist leader's birthday.

The new blockbuster, Unfit for Service, notes that Kerry also praised Ho Chi Minh in 1971, comparing him to George Washington.

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U.S. veterans of the Vietnam war, John Lancater (L), Andre Sauvageeot (2nd L), Phil Karber (2nd R) and Chuck Searcy (R), wear T-shirts in support of the U.S. presidential candidate John Kerry , in Hanoi August 21, 2004. With the U.S. presidential race taking a decidedly bitter turn over John Kerry's Vietnam war record, U.S. veterans in Hanoi are selling T-shirts supporting his run for the White House. REUTERS/Kham

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1 posted on 08/21/2004 1:18:07 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They're selling the shirts in Vietnam and then sending the money to Kerry's campaign, right?

Doesn't that violate the prohibition on foreign donations in any Presidential Election Campaign?

2 posted on 08/21/2004 1:20:26 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

You''l hurl PING!


3 posted on 08/21/2004 1:20:49 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...in Hanoi, no less.

Class. Pure class. </sarcasm>


4 posted on 08/21/2004 1:21:39 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

TRAITORS ONE AND ALL....


5 posted on 08/21/2004 1:22:37 PM PDT by BMC1
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To: Prime Choice; Carl/NewsMax; jmstein7

"Doesn't that violate the prohibition on foreign donations in any Presidential Election Campaign?"

Carl, looks like you could get a good story about this.

Jon, do you know much about FEC law? How would one file a complaint with the FEC?


6 posted on 08/21/2004 1:23:00 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"-We had very serious disagreements among ourselves about the war," Searcy told Associated Press in criticism of the ads, "but the creed was that we never spoke ill of another veteran. That ethic has been violated in this election, and it's pretty shameful-"

Kerry spoke ill in 1971 before a Congressional hearing, accusing his fellow veterans of horrible war crimes that he had no evidence of except second hand stories from people who 'allegedly' were Vietnam vets. Where is the indignation from these Kerry supporters?
7 posted on 08/21/2004 1:25:02 PM PDT by airborne (Death From Above)
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To: adam_az

Can someone tell me exactly how to post a picture? I have one I received in an email I would like to post.

Thank you.


8 posted on 08/21/2004 1:25:17 PM PDT by BMC1
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To: Prime Choice

"American's Overseas"!They are not real American's and i refuse to accept them as such.Also,the communists to protest at the GOP convention,SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO!


9 posted on 08/21/2004 1:26:53 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Prime Choice; All
And if that doesn't make your mad, read this. Well, read it even if you're mad.

Kerry's World: Father Knows Best***As early as prep school, John Kerry showed signs that he shared his father's suspicions about America's cold war foreign policy. In a debate at St. Paul's in the late '50s, he argued that the United States should establish relations with Red China. During his junior year at Yale, he won a speech prize for an oration warning, "It is the specter of Western Imperialism that causes more fear among Africans and Asians than communism, and thus it is self-defeating." And, when he was tapped to deliver a graduation speech in 1966, he used the occasion to condemn U.S. involvement in Vietnam, intoning, "What was an excess of isolationism has become an excess of interventionism." ***

10 posted on 08/21/2004 1:27:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BMC1

The easiest way to do it is just put the link in a post and I'll add the stuff to make it show. I've tried to explain it but without much luck.


11 posted on 08/21/2004 1:28:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I wonder how much his comrade in communism Jane Fonda has given him.


12 posted on 08/21/2004 1:30:29 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (Never forget: "We will take things away from you for the benefit of the common good"-Hitlery Rodham)
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To: All
The new blockbuster, Unfit for Service, notes that Kerry also praised Ho Chi Minh in 1971, comparing him to George Washington.

Acknowledging the young Kerry's ambitions the New Left (now Rat party leaders) took Kerry to be their Ho.

13 posted on 08/21/2004 1:31:14 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry spent four months fighting a war then YEARS attacking it. This time around he's defending the war and attacking those who question his conduct.

In both instances he has spit on many men and women who fought honorably.

14 posted on 08/21/2004 1:31:49 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: BMC1

How do we know these guys were really in Vietnam? (Even so, who the hell cares? There are plenty of lying freaks who served in Vietnam--Kerry is just one of them).

Democrat plants call in to radio talk shows and say they are a republican but "are voting for Kerry because ..."

Democrats infiltrate many Republican organizations. Watch the freak show during the Republican Convention. There will be thousands of sign carrying "Republcians for Kerry" and "Veterans for Kerry", and 99% of them (or all of them) are nonveteran socialist Democrats.


15 posted on 08/21/2004 1:32:11 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The picture is in an email and I don't know how to link it.

If I can link it, how do I make sure the email addresses don't get linked at the same time?


16 posted on 08/21/2004 1:32:28 PM PDT by BMC1
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To: BMC1

Put your mouse on the picture and LEFT click then come to a post and RIGHT click.


17 posted on 08/21/2004 1:35:00 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BMC1

It should only pick up the picture address. When you preview your post it should show you if the email address is in there and then you could just not post it. But I don't think that will happen.


18 posted on 08/21/2004 1:36:42 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Prime Choice

Americans overseas can donate to political campaigns. The fact that they made that money overseas is not a barrier. They probably are just selling them to themselves anyway, but the media loves this kind of story.


19 posted on 08/21/2004 1:37:16 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Communist traitors for Kerry, that's the ticket!


20 posted on 08/21/2004 1:37:38 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife





Subject: The Marines







Incredible!





ACLU Upset At Marines



If you look closely at the picture above, you will note that all the Marines pictured are bowing their heads. That's because they're praying.

This incident took place at a recent ceremony honoring the birthday of the corps, and it has the ACLU up in arms. "These are federal employees," says Lucius Traveler, a spokesman for the ACLU, "on federal property and on federal time. For the! m to pray is clearly an establishment of religion, and we must nip this in the bud immediately."

When asked about the ACLU's charges, Colonel Jack Fessender, speaking for the Commandant of the Corps said (cleaned up a bit),

"Screw the ACLU." GOD Bless Our Warriors, Send the ACLU to France.



Please send this to people you know so everyone will know how stupid the ACLU is Getting in trying to remove GOD from everything and every place in America.

May God Bless America, One Nation Under GOD

When I did left click nothing happened so I said select all, then copy and paste.


21 posted on 08/21/2004 1:39:49 PM PDT by BMC1
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To: CWOJackson

He's a real snake in the grass.


22 posted on 08/21/2004 1:40:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Old Sarge
Mommy Heinz!
Help!
Now my shipmates on the
USS GRIDLEY CG-21
are attacking me.

Click Here Mommy
and see what
the USS GRIDLEY crew say.


They say I told lies in Tour of Duty
GRIDLEY CREW ARE LIKE
SWIFT BOAT MEANIES!

OOPS! I POOPED in my diaper again.

Mommy : Don't take my allowance away.
Mommy : Why does McCain
still campaign with Bush?
Mommy : Why doesn't Al Gore defend me?
He was a Vietnam Vet.

Mommy : OOPS I Pooped again.

Mommy : Why did Hillary release FBI Files on me?
Mommy : Where is Ted Kennedy?



23 posted on 08/21/2004 1:41:19 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: Prime Choice
"They're selling the shirts in Vietnam and then sending the money to Kerry's campaign, right?

Doesn't that violate the prohibition on foreign donations in any Presidential Election Campaign?"

How naive you are. We're talking about Democrats; laws don't apply to them, because despite their tactics, their ultimate motive is so pure and noble. (sarcasm off)
24 posted on 08/21/2004 1:43:28 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's interesting to see how many of the Vietnam era protestors, who spat on us then, now are suddenly entralled by a Vietnam vet and spouting his service.


25 posted on 08/21/2004 1:43:39 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: BMC1

Let me start over (sorry I'm so poor at explaining).

I should have said RIGHT click on the picture and then hit "copy." Then come here LEFT click on the page and hit "paste." That should leave a string of letters and numbers. But to make a picture it has to be enclosed with symbols. But if I write them out they'll try to make a picture and you won't see what I told you. SO, just put the line of information in a post or a private post to me and I'll combine them and put them here for you, if you'd like.


26 posted on 08/21/2004 1:48:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We had very serious disagreements among ourselves about the war," Searcy told Associated Press in criticism of the ads, "but the creed was that we never spoke ill of another veteran. That ethic has been violated in this election, and it's pretty shameful."

Hey Searcy! Where were you in April 1971 when Kerry was trashing our Vietnam veterans before the world?

27 posted on 08/21/2004 1:48:25 PM PDT by itsinthebag
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We had very serious disagreements among ourselves about the war," Searcy told Associated Press in criticism of the ads, "but the creed was that we never spoke ill of another veteran. That ethic has been violated in this election, and it's pretty shameful."

Hey Searcy! Where were you in April 1971 when Kerry was trashing our Vietnam veterans before the world?

28 posted on 08/21/2004 1:49:14 PM PDT by itsinthebag
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To: BMC1

YIKES! Not on "copy" by "Copy image location"


29 posted on 08/21/2004 1:49:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: itsinthebag

sorry for the double post.


30 posted on 08/21/2004 1:49:40 PM PDT by itsinthebag
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
WHAT A BUNCH OF JERKS
31 posted on 08/21/2004 1:51:06 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Disregard.
There are some (possibly genuine) Vietnam vets who later turned into peace creeps hanging around Hanoi, Saigon, Phnom Penh, etc. these days (I worked there in 1995-2000), so this is not surprising.
Interesting highlight for some enterprising Freeper to research: Andre Sauvegeot (sp?), one of the veterans pictured in the linked photos, was Kerry's translator in the early 1990's when Kerry and Bob Smith roamed Vietnam in connection with their POW/MIA committee investigation, so there is a personal/professional link between those two.


32 posted on 08/21/2004 1:56:06 PM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Logical me

Big Time!


33 posted on 08/21/2004 1:56:24 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bump


34 posted on 08/21/2004 1:57:22 PM PDT by hope (John Kerry is using the Mark Hacking recipe for disaster)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Friggin traitors! Revoke their citzenship and let them stay in commie-land.


35 posted on 08/21/2004 1:57:57 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

Also quick Google search says he was GE's representative in Hanoi 1993-2003, possibly benefiting from normalization of relations in Clinton years. He was a US Army Colonel with 8 years in Vietnam.


36 posted on 08/21/2004 2:00:01 PM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: BMC1
Go to
PhotoBucket.com Free Photo Hosting
they have free online picture hosting, upload your photos and they even provide the HTML tag you need to post it, just copy and paste it into your post.


37 posted on 08/21/2004 2:03:20 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: boxerblues

Thank you!


38 posted on 08/21/2004 2:05:37 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Your welcome, it the simple things in life that making freeping so much easier lol. some days you need 2 windows open, 1 on FR the other on Photobucket.


39 posted on 08/21/2004 2:07:40 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: BMC1
Your email is, as are most email chain letters, bogus.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/aclu-marines.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=ACLU+Upset+At+Marines+&btnG=Google+Search


40 posted on 08/21/2004 2:10:31 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: BMC1

You need to post it on a website, and then use an html img tag.

Can someone point bmc1 to the html faq thread??


41 posted on 08/21/2004 2:17:27 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"but the creed was that we never spoke ill of another veteran. That ethic has been violated in this election, and it's pretty shameful."

How do you explain away Kerry who obviously missed the initial memo in 1971.

Kerry has been smearing Viet Vets for over 3 decades.

What an absolute dunce and someone who only has his enterprise and bank account at heart.

Shameful? Take a good hard look at what Kerry is still doing. <>P>Then keep your mouth shut cause, "You didn't serve in their boats, so how do you know?"

42 posted on 08/21/2004 2:18:30 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: adam_az

boxerblues did. Thanks.


43 posted on 08/21/2004 2:19:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: N. Theknow

What you said.

Dittos!


44 posted on 08/21/2004 2:20:06 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: adam_az

Thank you, I appreciate everyone's help.


45 posted on 08/21/2004 2:20:37 PM PDT by BMC1
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To: adam_az
HTML Bootcamp"
46 posted on 08/21/2004 2:22:32 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: BMC1
Can someone tell me exactly how to post a picture

tape it to your screen...then press Enter..We'll all see it!!!

you have mail.

47 posted on 08/21/2004 2:22:47 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I Just fell off the boat!! Kerry I need you! Uh..nevermind, it's only hip deep...right now.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My Son's Shirt is Better. LOL


48 posted on 08/21/2004 2:26:59 PM PDT by BushCountry (Son's T-Shirt -- http://www.cafepress.com/kerrybetrayal)
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To: BMC1
Can someone tell me exactly how to post a picture? I have one I received in an email I would like to post.

Thank you.

The first rule, and the most important, is that the picture has to be on a website. Having received it in an email means it only exists on your computer. You have to get it up to a website otherwise we cannot see it here. Those instructions depend on what you've got for a website, so we'll do that in freepmail if someone hasn't already done it.

In the meantime, here's how you post a picture. What you're going to do is copy the address of the picture so you can paste it here within an HTML command for displaying an image that has this format:

<img src="address of picture that you copied">

Instructions for Displaying a Picture in a Snappy Comment

  1. Locate the picture on some website or upload it to one of your own.
  2. Place your mouse on the picture and right click to display the popup menu.
  3. Click Properties to display the Properties dialog.
  4. About midway down is Address (URL) with http:// to its right. Move your mouse pointer to the left of the http until the pointer changes to an I-beam.
  5. Click and hold the left mouse button, and drag down to highlight the address. When it stops highlighting, you've reached the end of the address, which is usually either jpg or gif.
  6. Keeping your mouse pointer within the highlighted text, right click again to display the popup menu.
  7. Click Copy. The address is now ready to be pasted into a snappy comment on Freerepublic, but you're not done yet.
  8. Start the snappy comment and when you're ready to place the picture type these characters exactly:

<img src="

Then paste the address of the picture by right-clicking the mouse and selecting Paste. Then close it up with these two final characters:

">

This is exactly how I created the line to post this picture of our favorite columnist from her website. The picture is located at

http://www.townhall.com/acimgs/webimages/coulter124.jpg
and the HTML is:

<img src="http://www.townhall.com/acimgs/webimages/coulter124.jpg">


49 posted on 08/21/2004 2:35:49 PM PDT by Dahoser (Kevin Martin for Congress. The campaign begins now.)
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To: Prime Choice

Gee- All these guys want to do is draw attention to Kerry's war record?

That is all the Swifties want to do, along with Freepers, and other honest Americans.

We just want to see ALL the records. All of Kerry's war records. Now that's all. And I'm not selling any stinking t-shirt that disses Bush to do the above.


50 posted on 08/21/2004 2:36:26 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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