"Nazis - I hate those guys..."
Posted on 08/21/2004 2:37:42 PM PDT by lizol
Thousands of Nazis march through German town to honour Rudolf Hess
BERLIN (AP) - Some 3,800 Nazis gathered Saturday for a march in memory of Adolf Hitler's deputy, Rudolf Hess, in the Bavarian town where he is buried, German police said.
The march in Wunsiedel was met by several hundred counter-demonstrators, who at one point halted it by staging a sit-down blockade. Although no clashes were reported, police said they detained 110 people -74 of them Nazis.
Marchers were detained for displaying outlawed Nazi symbols and carrying weapons or pepper spray, police spokeswoman Beate Weiss said. Some 1,000 officers were deployed to prevent trouble at the march.
Hess hanged himself at age 93 in Spandau Prison in West Berlin on Aug. 17, 1987 after nearly 41 years as a prisoner.
Nazis regularly troop to Wunsiedel to mark the day he died. Local authorities have tried to ban the march but in recent years a state court has ruled it can go ahead.
Wunsiedel's mayor, Karl-Willi Beck, was among the protesters who demonstrated against the Nazis on Saturday.
"It is our duty to make our voice heard," he said
The German nazis must be proud of the Kerry censor police.
Hard to believe that there are still Nazi admirers in Germany.
Probably all young folks with too much time on their hands.
Odd. The only thing Hess is famous for, as far as I know, is making a rather quixotic flight to Britain, in an early attempt at Jesse Jacksonist personal diplomacy.
It you're going to march in memory of a Nazi, there are much more appropriate individuals to commemorate.
Don't kid yourself, Hitler sent Hess on that mission to England. Hess didn't take a dump unless Hitler told him to.
I believe a lot of it steems from his seemingly singular punishment in Spandau. I believe that gave the Nazi a reason to believe that Hess was more then he really was...as you so well described.
I beg your pardon?
Maybe marching for a more standup Nazi like Von Ribbentrop or Himmler, or Hitler himself is more to your preference?
You're probably right. It does seem odd that he was kept locked up for so long in his own private prison, when all other prisoners had died or been released.
Isn't the Democratic convention old news yet, for heaven's sake...? :)
And so it starts. A few in Europe will stand and take notice. In most countries Nazis and Klan types are routinely outnumbered by counter protesters 10 to 1. In Germany, a few lone voices bother to resist.
The 'Ami Raus' has worked. NATO is dead. Most forget its 3 fold purpose...to keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down.
The EU is only phase 1.
Look for German efforts at stabilizing and growing their population base in the near future. And I don't mean inviting more Turks.
I don't know whether Hitler sent him.
I do know the mission was a classic case of not having the slightest clue who your enemy really is. Churchill had been proclaiming his bellicose intentions towards the Nazis for over a decade, yet they apparently thought Rudi could talk him into switching sides at the drop of a hat?
The Soviets insisted on it. Even some Holocaust survivors said they had no objection to releasing Hess in his final years, but the Soviet government refused to allow it.
In Restorer's defense, I think he was insulting and demeaning Hess more than anything.
I didn't buy the many conspiracy theories, but at the same time I'm sure that his release would have been embarrassing to one of the nations making the decision to keep him there. It's a known fact that some of the English royal family were pro-Nazi.
Maybe the President had better leave those 70,000 troops over in germany , they may be needed to save the French's butts again.
If I were a Nazi, which I'm not, I would prefer to commemorate Hitler or Goering or even Speer.
The whole thing is like a group of Confederate revisionists parading in memory of Alex Stephens or even Bragg, rather than Lee or Davis.
(Not that I'm equating the two groups, other than in their presently highly unpopular status.)
I heard as soon as the wall came down the german people started picking out uniforms. Maybe this little march got our friends the french a little scared.
It is possible, perhaps even likely, that he was invited to come to Britain by someone high up, and whoever invited him chickened out when he got caught and gauged the public response.
One of the odder incidents of the Cold War.
He was best known, if that's the term, as an utterly colorless yes-man for AH, which is probably why he was Hitler's designated "heir." Nobody would bump AH off to bring Rudi to power.
He was kept in prison for so long because the Russians never forgave...the main purpose of the flight to Scotland was to convince the Brits that a joint war on Russia was in their mutual interest.
Hell the British still haven't released files relating to the Hundred Years War ,have they? Hess certainly wasn't going to England as a spy or terrorist. It is a shame that we or our childrens childrens children will never know what he was doing.
Ah, but Hess has a known grave. The majority of the Nazi pantheon was executed, cremated, and had their ashes tipped into the Isar.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
Nonsense. Hitler had a general loyalty to his friends, unless they threatened him ( ERNST ROHM), unlike Stalin. Hess was an "old fighter" from the Great War, and a fighter in the struggle for power. But he was crazy even by Nazi standards...He used to bring his own cook to Hitler's policy meetings because he was afraid his food would be poisoned. and he stayed crazy even in prison...his family once claimed the prison was no problem because rudy routinely had OBE's and visited them via astal projection. maybe he did. Anyway, the allies had to run Spandau prison just for him. Saved us all some money when he kicked. good riddance to bad garbage.
I get what you're saying about Hess. What a screw-up. Hanged himself in prison at age 93!! I don't suppose it was a sudden wave of self-hatred that came over him 45 years after he did his dirty deeds. Seems a bit anti-Climatic.
Nazi's (and I'm truly surprised that there are still 3,800 Nazi's in Germany to march in the first place) celebrating this doofus would be comparable to Communists celebrating a f***-up like Che Guevara, who never won a battle in his life and got himself shot dead whenever he tried to bring his silly band of losers against a REAL Army.....Oh, wait. The Commies DO celebrate him. Nevermind.
Next year, you can join the Nazi's in Austria for "Dolfuss Day", celebrating the all-around incompetant leadership of assassinated Fascist chancellor Englebert Dolfuss. C'mon! They'll serve beer and nachos ?! Anybody? Oh, well.
But he does look great in a beret.
"Nazis - I hate those guys..."
"Hard to believe that there are still Nazi admirers in Germany."....The welfare state has replaced Hitler
Even a broken Russian clock is right twice a day.
Not quite sure what I said that was nonsense., :)
It is a fact that Hess had no independent power base or followers in the Nazi party, unlike quite a few other party bigwigs.
He was Hitler's follower and that was that.
You are correct that Hitler stuck with "friends." The continuity in his administration is amazing, especially when you consider how incompetent to just plain nuts many of these people were.
Hard to believe that there are still Nazi admirers in Germany.
Probably all young folks with too much time on their hands.
Most likely these people are former Hitler youth. Could be actual former party members too that were in their late teens or early 20's at the time of the war. Not an impossibility.
We defeated Germany, we didn't squash Naziism. It's resurgance here in the Pacific Northwest is proof of that.
A Hitler Youth member who was 15 in 1945 would be 74 today.
Not an impossibility.
Perhaps not. But highly unlikely. It doesn't seem that they'd be up for a lot of skirmishing with the cops. It is pretty well known that these "Nazis" are young male thugs for the most part, largely from former East Germany.
From 1984-88 I was stationed in West Berlin while serving in the USAF. There were 3 places in West Berlin the the Soviets had a right to keep their soldiers at; the Soviet War Memorial next to the Brandenburg Gate, the Berlin Air Safety Center; and Spandau Prison. When Hess became the last prisoner at Spandau the Soviets could not release him for humanitarian reasons because that would mean that there were no more prisoners in Spandau, and, the Soviets would then lose one of those 3 locations they could post their soldiers at. In fact, when Hess did die the Soviets suggested that Spandau be turned into a jointly administered musuem/memorial to WW II. Spandau was located in the British sector and shortly after Hess died and the 4 power administration of the prison ended the British put up signs on the outside of Spandau stated that the prison was not the propert of HM Government and access was controlled by the British Army.
. . and who said the democrats were dead ?
Congratulations! You've got the first non-conspiratorial but logical reason for his extended lockup that I've ever seen.
Hitler came to power because he was wildly popular. Nazi sentiments went underground, but it's hard to believe they were eradicated.
Btw, these nazi groups love the islamonazis too...
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