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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 21 August 22, 2004
Various big media television networks ^ | 22 August 2004 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 08/22/2004 4:40:50 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: rocklobster11

Your "Conspiratorial Family Tree" is hilarious. But I need the Kevin Bacon (in red) connection and what it proves. Can't wait!


301 posted on 08/22/2004 7:30:29 AM PDT by GoodGrief
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To: maica

That would be a wonderful thing....


302 posted on 08/22/2004 7:32:26 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: dawn53
Well, with the subject matter being as detailed as it is, as convoluted as it is, old unctuous joe would likely have to return to his old habit of plagarizing, and he's saddened by that, he's deeply saddened.

On a side note, these Vets can't be stopped, and they can't be portrayed as mean or vicious, they just can't. I rarely contribute to causes I'm not really familiar with, I sent them $50. last night, and there's more where that came from, should they appear to need it.

303 posted on 08/22/2004 7:32:36 AM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: Baynative
Well....if I was impressed with Republican Mehlman on MTP, that goes double, triple for Swiftboater O'Dell on the FOX Show. Chris Wallace's questioning of him was brutal, thorough. O'Dell had every chance to screw up or back down, and he did not.

O'Dell's explanation of the Rassmun rescue incident was clear and concise. The best evidence Kerry's version wasn't accurate is the fact that I wasn't shot, said O'Dell. He explains there was no enemy fire, and the bullet holes on the boats, and broken windows, claimed by Kerry to have taken place that day, actually happened the day before.

Hurley got tough questioning too, and he looked very weak. Hurley wasn't there, O'Dell was, and that tripped him up in his closing spin. Hurley was trapped by Wallace about Christmas in Cambodia too. Hurley was backed into warp speed spinning when he tried to explain away why Kerry's "seared, seared memory", on the Senate floor and in The Boston Herald was so wrong.

Hurley did get in Kerry's mainline defense, which is all these ads and the boat is a Bush enterprise. O'Dell was great in correcting Wallace. He said Perry is NOT the biggest contributor, the American people are, then he gave the numbers on how much money came in. Over 100,000 on one day, and over $200,000 on another day.

Think of it. Hurley is a professional hit man, a hired hack, long time spinner for Kerry. Yet up against an untrained spokesman like O'Dell, someone who has never "done" tv, never been in hardball politics, Hurley was bested. I think, hands down. O'Dell was so sure of himself, so calm.

304 posted on 08/22/2004 7:34:02 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Good Morning For the good guys.com)
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To: Carolinamom

France and Germany would most likely join Kerry, because they are Socialist and so is Kerry.


305 posted on 08/22/2004 7:34:12 AM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: olde north church
Of course McCain is with the Vets. He may be a "maverick" but I'm getting the feeling a lot of the old Vietnam pain is coming back to him

I agree.

306 posted on 08/22/2004 7:35:51 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: rocklobster11

Great chart!

Charles Krauthammer was talking about how the dems are trying to link Bush/Rove to the Swiftvets.

He made the statement that each of us could probably be linked to Osama by six degrees of separation, LOL.

Glad to see Kevin Bacon got on your chart!


307 posted on 08/22/2004 7:37:27 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Right_in_Virginia

is the appropriate word "cathartic"?


308 posted on 08/22/2004 7:38:42 AM PDT by olde north church
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To: gilliam
McCain is still very bitter, I think, about what happened to him during his primary run in 2000.

McCain may be bitter...but let's not forget that what "happened to him" during the primaries in 2000 is nothing more than what McCain himself tried to do to GWB.

309 posted on 08/22/2004 7:39:03 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Chaguito

This very thread is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Only a few years ago all of us would have been isolated in our own living rooms throwing spitballs at the bias coming out of the Sunday shows.

First came Fox, as an antidote for that. But the biggest development is represented by theads like this. Every Sunday we gather in FR's "living room" and dissect every word these liars try to force down our throats. Posters here are smart and well informed...note how many posts are backed up with links to articles or documents.

The funniest thing is, I doubt the media is even aware of how this has empowered us to fight back. They remain clueless.


310 posted on 08/22/2004 7:39:43 AM PDT by Timeout ("Go, balloons. Go, balloons. --- What the *$*@# are you guys doing up there?!" CNN/DNC)
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To: alnick
WEll-lol-Rood was NOT on the boat but since he supports kerry, that does NOT matter to the CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, and ABC press/reporters who whined about the Swift Boat Vets against Kerry as being not entitled to speak out because they were not actually on kerry's boat...but, instead, yards away. Pathetic, isn't it?

What really bothers me, and what has cemented in my heat that the above networks are propagandists, in support of Kerry and fully against President Bush is the simple fact that NONE of THEM have put Kerry's own book, Tour of Duty, into the debate regarding Kerry's character.

The book has an UPSIDE DOWN AMERICAN FLAG on the cover, and this book was taken off the shelves and off print by Kerry. WHY?

This cover-up is immense.

We know the mainstream press above wants kerry to win....we know they want kerry to be presented to the American people as a warrior, a fighter, a man who will protect our national security. Yet everything, and I MEAN EVERYTHING in kerry's past, including his YEARS as a senator, point to the exact opposite.

Our press corp has and is CHEATING the American people out of the full story, and it is so wrong. So hurtful to those who depend upon the above networks, trust them, believe them.

This abuse of the press corp could have devastating results for America should the Islamic radicals mount successful attack after attack against us, with kerry as president, and with his past having been hidden, putting all of us at risk.

The twisted logic of promoting a man who cannot run on his senate record, is anti-war, did not see communism as a threat, stated that nothing bad would happen if we withdrew from Vietnam, who helped destroy the resolve of a nation to win a war, trashed his own fellow troops, time and again in his senate record sought to destroy our military and intelligence capabilities, REFUSED to even attend intelligence committee meetings, refuses to release his full military service records, sends lawyers to attempt to undo his opponents rather than ANSWER the charges (some presidential material here-geez), needs botox and hairdressers flown across the country to keep him pretty, etc., etc., and etc., just blows the mind.

How our network press has denied the American people the full story of john kerry-instead of giving us a real debate, they give us attacks on the individuals who oppose kerry. Period.

The aged hippies in the dem party never grew up, now they are in charge, and their lack of conviction and pathetic cover-ups combined with their fellow aged hippies in the press is angering America now. I suspect the cup is about to overflow.

Thank God hillary never got her musings about controlling the internet accomplished.

It may be our only 'free press' left.

311 posted on 08/22/2004 7:39:46 AM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: GoodGrief
Your "Conspiratorial Family Tree" is hilarious. But I need the Kevin Bacon (in red) connection and what it proves. Can't wait!

Once you get a connection to Kevin Bacon, you can get a connection to anybody else. It's a game called 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon. He's been in so many movies with actors of different generations, that it is easy to link him to anyone. look it up on google.

312 posted on 08/22/2004 7:40:42 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: AlbionGirl

I think the vet on Fox said that the original guy (forget his name, but the Texas republican that the media is all freaked out about) gave them seed money.

Since then the money has been coming from the American people.

They were getting $20,000 per day, but when the Kerry campaign started attacking the money started to pour in.

I think he said they were getting upwards of $200,000 per day because of the donations.


313 posted on 08/22/2004 7:41:13 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Right_in_Virginia; All
EXcellent! RiV

Okay, all...I'm off to watch the Sunday shows...thanks for a great pre-show warm up!

314 posted on 08/22/2004 7:41:22 AM PDT by NordP (The terrorists aren’t bullies on a playground; they’re hard core, “24” TV, head-sawing TERRORISTS!)
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To: YaYa123

Thanks for an excellent report. Wish I'd seen it but my sister called.


315 posted on 08/22/2004 7:42:21 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: YaYa123

I caught the end of Van O'Dell on MSNBC earlier this morning, and he was also very terrific on there. Very credible, very calm, very sure of his argument. And Alison (Camerata?) did try to trip him up.

I'm glad the Swiftees have another spokesman who can take part of the load from O'Neill. I'm worried that John O'Neill is going to harm his own health with the schedule he's keeping.


316 posted on 08/22/2004 7:42:24 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Let he who has ears to hear, hear. Support the heroes of the SwiftBoat Vets.)
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To: maica

So how many are going to be attending rallies and appearances by their self-appointed 1971 spokesman to show the world how they feel? You gotta imagine something is in the works.


317 posted on 08/22/2004 7:43:11 AM PDT by lemura
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To: JustaCowgirl

Vanessa and Alexandra Kerry up now on SeeBS....again.

They look appropriately "saddened" by the attacks on Kerry.


318 posted on 08/22/2004 7:44:08 AM PDT by Timeout ("Go, balloons. Go, balloons. --- What the *$*@# are you guys doing up there?!" CNN/DNC)
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To: PattonReincarnated
I was wondering. Is it better for Juan to be on FNS or not? He is so wacked in the head. Does that make all DemoRats looked wacked? That might be a good thing. I would like on the other hand, an entire panel of conservatives - that would be news program.

Oh please, puleeeze..don't take my Juan away.

He's the only comic relief we have.

Juan forever!

319 posted on 08/22/2004 7:45:28 AM PDT by evad (You cannot start with a false premise and arrive at a valid conclusion)
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To: Republic
I think you are referring to the book: The New Soldier. Click on image to read the book.


320 posted on 08/22/2004 7:45:29 AM PDT by gilliam
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